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Old 08-01-2004, 01:40 PM   #1
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Does anyone have these packs installed on your WRX? If so, was it difficult to install and what do you think about it? I am planning on doing stage 2 in the spring. Thanks.
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Old 08-01-2004, 07:32 PM   #2
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I'd imagine the hardest part of the prodrive packs would be the up-pipe.
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Old 08-02-2004, 09:52 AM   #3
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For the money, you can have much better power going elseware, there was big controversy a while back in regards to prodrives kits not producing their advertised power.
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Old 08-02-2004, 10:40 AM   #4
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Old 08-02-2004, 11:36 AM   #5
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^ I second that. ^
Try www.turboxs.com, www.vishnutuning.com, www.cobbtuning.com, and other web-sites I cant name for performance packages. For Prodrive products, you pay for the name....much like Mercedes Benz.


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Old 08-02-2004, 04:10 PM   #6
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Only the Stage 3 replaces the uppipe. Stage 2 replaces the intercooler hoses, 3rd cat, and muffler. Nothing difficult there.

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Old 08-02-2004, 04:24 PM   #7
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I suspect the hardest part is being able to afford it. Prodrive packs cost the most and offer the least performance.
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Old 08-02-2004, 04:36 PM   #8
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Search the 'Car Parts' forum under 'Nasioc Reviews" for 'Prodrive". Titles instead of full text will reduce clutter.

Edit: Click 'search', then 'advanced search' to see these options.

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Old 08-02-2004, 06:38 PM   #9
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I've got the PPP2 on my '04 Wagon - and so far I'm really pleased with the increased performance. Acosta fan - here's a link to a good PPP2 review:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=548269
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Old 08-02-2004, 10:52 PM   #10
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I had PPP2 on my WRX for about 4 months and then just upgraded to PPP3 about 2 weeks ago. You can read about all the other threads on these kits, but personally I really like them. The PPP2 is very easy to install. The PPP3 kit is more involved due to the uppipe replacement. Thanks to the wealth of info on these forums it ended up not being that difficult. These are pretty much 'plug and play' systems. I have not had one single problem with either kit. No running problems and, no check engine lights. As far as power goes, I ran the car at ButtonWillow HPDE with the PPP2 kit and had no problems keeping up with two M3's (E36 and E46) down the front straight.
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Old 08-03-2004, 07:07 AM   #11
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waveskidude - i'm also thinking about the PPP3 upgrade. how much louder is your car with the prodrive up and down installed? also - have you had any emission testing trouble w/only a high-flow cat?

thanks...
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Old 08-03-2004, 10:28 AM   #12
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I too have the PPP2 on my 03 wagon. I have no complaints in the desert southwest at 6500 ft. No check engine, improved drivability, no pinging on hot days, 27 mpg while commuting etc. During track events the car has had no problems running with more exotic and more powerful cars. That being said, you can get more horsepower for the same money elsewhere. I might go stage 3 in the next month, then again I might go with a Ver. 8 swap in the next month also
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Old 08-03-2004, 01:24 PM   #13
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I have a PPP3 I've got a review of it floating around here somewhere.

edit: here it is http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ive+power+pack

I like it a lot. No issues. Plenty of power for me. No CEL. Quality is second to none. If you are looking for big power numbers, this is not for you....but if you want better throttle response, drivabilty, etc., this is what you want. I recommend buying a boost gauge.

The PPPs are under warranty in the UK. Won't really do you any good here, but you get some peace of mind that they are warrantied somewhere. Additionally, I have heard that prodrive has PPP3 ej20s on an engine dyno with over 100K miles on em and no problems.

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Old 08-03-2004, 08:59 PM   #14
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I installed a PPP3 at 40k miles; got ~65k now - and still love it. (I'm using the Stromung twin tip muffler instead of the Prodrive; I already had it, and couldn't bear to part with it)

What do I like about it?
  • It's a complete, well engineered, kit; install it and go, no further tuning necessary. As long as you're happy with the results you just drive...
  • Very nicely designed and constructed bits. (Full disclosure: I had some early parts, and a few fitment problems which I reported to Prodrive. Presumably long ago resolved...)
  • Excellent power, from off idle to the top; boost max well below 3k under most conditions.
    Note: this is the only system I'm aware of that actually makes full use of the stock turbo's compressor map: under optimum conditions the reflashed ECU's boost max is ~19psi in the heart of the midrange, tapering down to follow the map above ~5k. (This is actually a bit conservative compared to how far the map looks like you could push it, but I like that for longevity.)
  • Lovely sound; I rarely even turn on the radio/CD anymore (of course I can't vouch for the difference w/ the Prodrive muffler, but I'm told it's much the same).
  • You can use the stock heatshield, albeit with some modification. (Search for posts with my name and "heatshield" for pics and description).
  • No CELs; O2 sensors in stock locations, EGT sensor moved to DP where it can't affect the turbo if it physically fails; the reflash (presumably) takes care of any adjusted parameters.
  • Driven from sea level to over 11k feet, and from ~-30F to ~100F. No hiccups; boost does adjust for conditions, as expected (I would hope so!).
Do I want more power? Of course! But I'm not willing to compromise long term reliability, nor daily drivability, to get it. Hmmm...maybe PPP4 someday...
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Old 08-04-2004, 12:49 AM   #15
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waveskidude - i'm also thinking about the PPP3 upgrade. how much louder is your car with the prodrive up and down installed? also - have you had any emission testing trouble w/only a high-flow cat?

thanks...
Capecod -

I've only had the system on for about two weeks or so and haven't had to do any emission testing. That said, one of the things I like about this kit is the nice downpipe cat. I can't say for sure that it will pass any US emissions tests, but it is the same cat they put on the UK PPP kits and include an emissions warranty on those systems. As far as noise,the PPP3 does not make it any louder per se. It sounds a little deeper at idle and a tiny bit noiser on acceleration (due to the new uppipe). Its just as quiet as the PPP2 kit on the highway (hard to hear anything over my worn Azenis.....).
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Old 08-04-2004, 10:01 AM   #16
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Hmmm...maybe PPP4 someday...

From what I understand, they are thinking about it.
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Old 08-04-2004, 06:22 PM   #17
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I've still got to add my little orifice thing, but i finished everything and put the ECU back in a few minutes ago... Seemed fine, it's hot as ***** here today, so I'm sure I won't see 19 psi on the way home, but it worked... apparently no exhaust leaks yet!
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As far as noise,the PPP3 does not make it any louder per se. It sounds a little deeper at idle and a tiny bit noiser on acceleration (due to the new uppipe)
I concur... not much, if any noisier...

I've heard rumblings of PPP4 also...
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Old 08-05-2004, 12:15 AM   #18
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I've heard rumblings of PPP4 also...
Must ........ resist ...........
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Old 08-05-2004, 12:32 AM   #19
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what would ppp4 be? vf34?
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Old 08-05-2004, 12:47 AM   #20
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turbo, intercooler, fuel pump, injectors is what i heard.
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Old 01-09-2005, 11:29 PM   #21
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my prodrive performance pack stage 2 is on its way to be installed cant wait

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Old 01-22-2005, 10:03 AM   #22
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its in and its a very nice upgrade

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Old 01-22-2005, 07:36 PM   #23
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jester5 - Did your car have any issues with bucking on throttle let-off at ~5000 rpm? Just wondering if the PPP2 fixes that on the MY04's.
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Old 01-25-2005, 07:27 AM   #24
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Hi Guys

Nice to read some good thought / feelings about PPP's! To the chap who's just fitted his, make sure you put the new jet in, it's important

About PPP4, we have done a couple of iterations of PPP4, one has been running for about 30k miles on Dan's car (dan@prodrive.com) with no problems (and I mean NO problems, he's still on stock original clutch and transmission) and it's only ever seen 91 pump gas and will eat a stock STi

Current spec is - turbo, full exhaust, up-pipe, injectors, pump, intercooler, intercooler pipe, intake, zip tube, scoop and scoop internals

We have not made the decision to supply it yet, we are concerned about warranty issues (clutch and transmission) as some US Impreza drivers seem to have clutch / transmission problems with almost stock cars we feel that PPP4 might be too much for them. We also feel that PPP4 may not be a "100,000 mile solution" to explain everything we sell is from the point of NOT effecting your warranty (even if it's not officially covered). The PPP4 pushes this envelope and may not be 100,000 mile safe, we have to consider our position on this as it's a new area for us.

Assuming all the points get covered we may offer it as an up-grade path to PPP3 owners or something like that, the one final issue is cost of course but we're working on that.

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Old 01-25-2005, 08:33 AM   #25
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Do the prodrive packs work well w/ California pee fuel?
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