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Old 08-10-2004, 12:08 PM   #1
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SC-WReX and I saw a commercial last night for this new reality show in which they place cameras in the jury room as they deliberate a capital murder case. We both work on capital murder cases so we're probably biased, but we both agreed that this is a bad, bad, bad idea. What do you think?

Here's an article about it from MSNBC's web site:

Reality TV tackles the death penalty

Cameras follow jury as they deliberate penalty for a murder case
Updated: 6:23 p.m. ET Aug. 6, 2004NEW YORK - Television viewers will get a grim new take on reality TV next week with a documentary showing a jury’s deliberations in a death penalty case that eventually saw the man spared from execution.

For the ABC News series “In The Jury Room,” cameras were given permission to shoot in an Ohio jury room in the case of Mark Ducic, who was charged with a double murder that carried a possible death sentence.

“What I like to do is take people places they’ve never been before,” said producer Michael Bicks. “And people have never been taken into a jury room for a capital murder case.”

The program, shown in hour-long segments on Tuesday and Wednesday nights, follows the Ducic case over a three-month period from pretrial preparations through the trial and the verdict handed down in June.

Prosecutors are shown meeting with an informant who wore a concealed microphone to get Ducic to incriminate himself, and the defense lawyer is shown in talks with Ducic, whose life in solitary confinement is shown in chilling vignettes.

Jury room footage reveals the pressures, emotions and frustrations felt by jurors.

“We’re very hopeful that this will be another positive step forward in increasing the public understanding of the process, thereby building further public trust and confidence,” said Supreme Court of Ohio spokesman Chris Davey.

Davey added that the court already provides gavel-to-gavel coverage of all its proceedings live on the Internet. TV cameras have been allowed into jury rooms, but never before in a murder case that could result in the death penalty.

“The greatest power we give a citizen in this democracy is to go in a jury room and decide whether someone is going to live and die,” said Bicks, who two years ago produced a documentary TV series, “State v.,” which took cameras into jury rooms in Arizona murder cases.

“We have no overarching point except that it’s a good thing to open up the system,” said Bicks. “With the death penalty, you have to be extremely careful to play it down the middle.

“It’s such a polarizing issue. Hopefully people on both sides of the issue can look at this and walk away with something.”

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Old 08-10-2004, 12:13 PM   #2
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:15 PM   #4
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All I know is they are going to have to make some tv magic to make it interesting. The legal system is so freakin boring
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:19 PM   #6
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:21 PM   #7
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:26 PM   #8
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Awful. Not appropriate for anybody outside the jury pool.
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:33 PM   #9
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that has mistrial written all over it
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:36 PM   #10
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I don't see the problem if it lets people see what really goes on in a capital murder case. The only problem I can see is if members of the jury try to get more "facetime" by causing drama.

P.S. I've practiced law for 19 years and have never been on a jury as I'm always getting kicked off based on my profession and years prosecuting criminal environmental cases.
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:38 PM   #11
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off the top of my head, potential pitfalls:

1. Mistrial

2. jury decides according to what they think the state would watn them to do in order to avoid being hassled once it's all over.

3. ppl watching will base their opinions about capital cases on this one and this jury. remember, the ppl watching are potential jurors.
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:43 PM   #12
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All I know is they are going to have to make some tv magic to make it interesting. The legal system is so freakin boring
Uh... I wouldn't call it "magic"...

They will find one random event and showcase it. They will tease the viewers with the significance of this event for 45 minutes, minimum. Each time they tease it, they will play pseudo-dramatic music like "Weakest Link", "Fear Factor", or "Who Wants to be a Millionaire." After the event has occurred they will continue to milk it for well past all it's worth. Think of a dissenting jurer being treated like the weakest link, complete with unflattering camera shots, the goofy-ass pseudo-drama music, whispered narration.

Hasn't everybody noticed that these hour-long shows contain about 4-6 minutes of content, encapsulated within 55 minutes of teasers, pseudo-drama, and commercials?

Will they show teh Jury Room Sects!! ?
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I'm sure everyone gave permission, and that included some strict rules. Is it all stupid? Yes. But if they all signed some sort of waivers, then stupid them.
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:46 PM   #15
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I'm sure everyone gave permission, and that included some strict rules. Is it all stupid? Yes. But if they all signed some sort of waivers, then stupid them.
Yeah, I'm sure they signed waivers, but I'm, not sure if this is ethical or legal, and it's definitely not in the best interest of the defendant. His lawyers are morons and will be facing IAC claims on appeal.
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