Questions for those who use LCD monitors for games/movies

Asinine · 08-16-2004, 11:07 AM

1: What size LCD do you use?
2: Use? (FPS, movies, etc)
3: Monitor's response time? (25ms, 20ms, 16ms, 12ms)
4: Do you notice any ghosting or choppiness at all?

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Yom · 08-16-2004, 11:14 AM

17 and 19" Samsung monitors

Uses are for FPS and movies. (I admit, most are not dvd movies)

12ms! Can't beat this at all. Especially for gaming

Ghosting or choppiness? Depends on the response time but for normal gaming on a 25ms, it does produce ghosting. Movies is fine for this though

Also, you didn't mention but make sure contrast ratio is 600:1 or 700:1. That way, your black will be black...not gray.
You have any specific models you're talking about?

TimStevens · 08-16-2004, 11:20 AM

I have a 17'' samsung LCD that I use for gaming and normal PC work stuff. No idea what the response rate is, but it's probably in the 20-25 range officially, but I see virtually no ghosting at all during gaming, and I'm understandably picky about that sort of thing. I also have a 19'' Mag that I only use for programming and such, has a similar response rate officially, and that one ghosts like a mother.

Having a low response rate is great, but numbers don't always tell the whole story.

il96 · 08-16-2004, 11:26 AM

1. 20" Dell 2001FP.
2. Gaming, movies, desktop applications
3. 16ms (minimal responce quoted). I know that grey shades take a LOT longer on all LCD's.
4. No ghosting noticed.

Asinine · 08-16-2004, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by il96

1. 20" Dell 2001FP.
2. Gaming, movies, desktop applications
3. 16ms (minimal responce quoted). I know that grey shades take a LOT longer on all LCD's.
4. No ghosting noticed.

Jebus... how much did that thing cost?

il96 · 08-16-2004, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asinine

Jebus... how much did that thing cost?

$800

It has 1600x1200 native resolution. It's like having 2 monitors.

Retsyn · 08-16-2004, 11:54 AM

I have an Envision 17". 16ms No ghosting, not even in Doom3 High Quality at 1280 X 1024. This is however an analog LCD not a digital. $300.00

FuzzyNips · 08-16-2004, 12:01 PM

1. Samsung 172X 17"
2. Gaming
3. 12ms
4. None

Asinine · 08-16-2004, 12:37 PM

Is the analog vs. DVI going to make a big difference for anything?

Right now I'm leaning toward a 17" Sharp 16ms analog only for $399... but I'd really like to make the jump to 19"

TimStevens · 08-16-2004, 12:40 PM

Depends on the resolution. You probably wouldn't see any difference on resolutions up to 1280x1024 analog vs. DVI. You'd have to be talking pretty high resolutions to really see an improvement.

But, DVI is definitely the future of video displays, and while you can get adapters to go from DVI to VGA, if you can get an LCD that has DVI input I'd pay a little extra for it.

z wrx · 08-16-2004, 01:43 PM

Definately go DVI if you can, I saw a huge improvement.

I even did a test on it, same LCD monitor but I had VGA and DVI cables for it. Tried both and DVI looked so much better.

serial · 08-16-2004, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asinine

Is the analog vs. DVI going to make a big difference for anything?

Right now I'm leaning toward a 17" Sharp 16ms analog only for $399... but I'd really like to make the jump to 19"

Where'd you find this?

trustWRX · 08-16-2004, 01:51 PM

1: 17"
2: Games (FPS,driving,RPG) and DVD movies
3: 16ms
4: I notice a bit of "tearing" once in a while while playing Asheron's Call. Not evident in Doom 3 of Collin McRae Rally 4.

il96 · 08-16-2004, 01:51 PM

I couldn't see a difference between Analog and DVI on desktop applications. Have not tried this for games.

nofriends · 08-16-2004, 02:06 PM

17" NEC MultiSync LCD1765
All gaming
16ms
No ghosting or choppiness whatsoever
Price range: $539.99 - $699.00

Best LCD or CRT I have ever owned.

Asinine · 08-16-2004, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serial

Where'd you find this?

www.costco.com... I am considering the 17" or 19" Sharp.

The two downfalls are poor contrast ratio, and no DVI.

serial · 08-16-2004, 02:19 PM

I just found this.

Envision 19" TFT-LCD Flat-Panel Monitor

Good contrast ratio, DVI and VGA, but it doesn't say the response time.

Asinine · 08-16-2004, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serial

I just found this.

Envision 19" TFT-LCD Flat-Panel Monitor

Good contrast ratio, DVI and VGA, but it doesn't say the response time.

25ms

bobafett · 08-16-2004, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asinine

3: Monitor's response time? (25ms, 20ms, 16ms, 12ms)

Keep in mind that a 20ms monitor will not necessarily perform better than a 16ms monitor. You get what you pay for.

So, do a little research and read reviews...Will help you decide.

Asinine · 08-16-2004, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobafett

Keep in mind that a 20ms monitor will not necessarily perform better than a 16ms monitor. You get what you pay for.

So, do a little research and read reviews...Will help you decide.

Ummm a 20ms monitor isn't supposed to perform better than a 16ms monitor.

PYP · 08-16-2004, 02:25 PM

1. Dell 1901FP (19")
2. Desktop/gaming/movies
3. 25ms
4. No

Quote:

Originally Posted by il96

I couldn't see a difference between Analog and DVI on desktop applications. Have not tried this for games.

same here...

Quote:

Originally Posted by z wrx

Definately go DVI if you can, I saw a huge improvement.

I even did a test on it, same LCD monitor but I had VGA and DVI cables for it. Tried both and DVI looked so much better.

I definitely will try it out (DVI). When I first got my LCD, I didn't really play any games so I just left it on VGA because I wanted to see the bootup screens...

il96 · 08-16-2004, 02:31 PM

Check this out: SAMSUNG 910T-Black 19" LCD Monitor -RETAIL $545

BenQ FP951 19" LCD Monitor $504

StuBeck · 08-16-2004, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asinine

1: What size LCD do you use?
2: Use? (FPS, movies, etc)
3: Monitor's response time? (25ms, 20ms, 16ms, 12ms)
4: Do you notice any ghosting or choppiness at all?

18.1 inches

Everything

16ms

Choppiness only when the fps gets below 30fps

Midwayman · 08-16-2004, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by il96

1. 20" Dell 2001FP.
2. Gaming, movies, desktop applications
3. 16ms (minimal responce quoted). I know that grey shades take a LOT longer on all LCD's.
4. No ghosting noticed.

ditto on the dell 2001fp. It is "the bomb" as far as LCD monitors go. no ghosting, super crisp gfx. If you have the $$$$ I dont think you can do better.

KillaSL2 · 08-16-2004, 02:55 PM

Damn my LCD sucks at 25 ms!

Viewsonic VA720

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08-16-2004, 11:14 AM	#2
Yom Scooby Newbie Member#: 53511 Join Date: Jan 2004 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Los Angeles Vehicle: 2005 CGM STi Honda Accord EX@158k	17 and 19" Samsung monitors Uses are for FPS and movies. (I admit, most are not dvd movies) 12ms! Can't beat this at all. Especially for gaming Ghosting or choppiness? Depends on the response time but for normal gaming on a 25ms, it does produce ghosting. Movies is fine for this though Also, you didn't mention but make sure contrast ratio is 600:1 or 700:1. That way, your black will be black...not gray. You have any specific models you're talking about?

08-16-2004, 11:20 AM	#3
TimStevens Scooby Specialist Member#: 4817 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Albanyish, NY Vehicle: 2012 STI, '02 WRX '91 MR2, '05 Speed Triple	I have a 17'' samsung LCD that I use for gaming and normal PC work stuff. No idea what the response rate is, but it's probably in the 20-25 range officially, but I see virtually no ghosting at all during gaming, and I'm understandably picky about that sort of thing. I also have a 19'' Mag that I only use for programming and such, has a similar response rate officially, and that one ghosts like a mother. Having a low response rate is great, but numbers don't always tell the whole story.

08-16-2004, 11:26 AM	#4
il96 Gone... But not forgotten Member#: 13082 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Philadelphia	1. 20" Dell 2001FP. 2. Gaming, movies, desktop applications 3. 16ms (minimal responce quoted). I know that grey shades take a LOT longer on all LCD's. 4. No ghosting noticed.

08-16-2004, 11:54 AM	#7
Retsyn Scooby Newbie Member#: 1910 Join Date: Jul 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Vehicle: 2 Left Feet	I have an Envision 17". 16ms No ghosting, not even in Doom3 High Quality at 1280 X 1024. This is however an analog LCD not a digital. $300.00

08-16-2004, 12:01 PM	#8
FuzzyNips Scooby Newbie Member#: 16686 Join Date: Mar 2002 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Warrenville, IL Vehicle: 2010 Mazda 3s GT 5dr Black Mica	1. Samsung 172X 17" 2. Gaming 3. 12ms 4. None

08-16-2004, 12:37 PM	#9
Asinine Sufficiently Snarky Member#: 55173 Join Date: Feb 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: I beat up big rocks Vehicle: with paddles.	Is the analog vs. DVI going to make a big difference for anything? Right now I'm leaning toward a 17" Sharp 16ms analog only for $399... but I'd really like to make the jump to 19"

08-16-2004, 12:40 PM	#10
TimStevens Scooby Specialist Member#: 4817 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Albanyish, NY Vehicle: 2012 STI, '02 WRX '91 MR2, '05 Speed Triple	Depends on the resolution. You probably wouldn't see any difference on resolutions up to 1280x1024 analog vs. DVI. You'd have to be talking pretty high resolutions to really see an improvement. But, DVI is definitely the future of video displays, and while you can get adapters to go from DVI to VGA, if you can get an LCD that has DVI input I'd pay a little extra for it.

08-16-2004, 01:43 PM	#11
z wrx Scooby Specialist Member#: 15443 Join Date: Feb 2002 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Northern NJ Vehicle: 2002 clownshoe	Definately go DVI if you can, I saw a huge improvement. I even did a test on it, same LCD monitor but I had VGA and DVI cables for it. Tried both and DVI looked so much better.

08-16-2004, 01:51 PM	#13
trustWRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 40431 Join Date: Jul 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Vehicle: 2009 Scion XB	1: 17" 2: Games (FPS,driving,RPG) and DVD movies 3: 16ms 4: I notice a bit of "tearing" once in a while while playing Asheron's Call. Not evident in Doom 3 of Collin McRae Rally 4.

08-16-2004, 02:06 PM	#15
nofriends Scooby Newbie Member#: 65169 Join Date: Jun 2004 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Diego Vehicle: 2004 Z06 2002 WRX	17" NEC MultiSync LCD1765 All gaming 16ms No ghosting or choppiness whatsoever Price range: $539.99 - $699.00 Best LCD or CRT I have ever owned.

08-16-2004, 02:19 PM	#17
serial Scooby Newbie Member#: 33569 Join Date: Mar 2003 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Phoenix, AZ Vehicle: Hey! Back off, man. I'm a scientist.	I just found this. Envision 19" TFT-LCD Flat-Panel Monitor Good contrast ratio, DVI and VGA, but it doesn't say the response time.

08-16-2004, 02:31 PM	#22
il96 Gone... But not forgotten Member#: 13082 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Philadelphia	Check this out: SAMSUNG 910T-Black 19" LCD Monitor -RETAIL $545 BenQ FP951 19" LCD Monitor $504

08-16-2004, 02:55 PM	#25
KillaSL2 Scooby Newbie Member#: 49060 Join Date: Nov 2003 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: WA Vehicle: 2002	Damn my LCD sucks at 25 ms! Viewsonic VA720