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Old 08-16-2004, 11:07 AM   #1
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Question Questions for those who use LCD monitors for games/movies

1: What size LCD do you use?
2: Use? (FPS, movies, etc)
3: Monitor's response time? (25ms, 20ms, 16ms, 12ms)
4: Do you notice any ghosting or choppiness at all?
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Old 08-16-2004, 11:14 AM   #2
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17 and 19" Samsung monitors

Uses are for FPS and movies. (I admit, most are not dvd movies)

12ms! Can't beat this at all. Especially for gaming

Ghosting or choppiness? Depends on the response time but for normal gaming on a 25ms, it does produce ghosting. Movies is fine for this though

Also, you didn't mention but make sure contrast ratio is 600:1 or 700:1. That way, your black will be black...not gray.
You have any specific models you're talking about?
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Old 08-16-2004, 11:20 AM   #3
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I have a 17'' samsung LCD that I use for gaming and normal PC work stuff. No idea what the response rate is, but it's probably in the 20-25 range officially, but I see virtually no ghosting at all during gaming, and I'm understandably picky about that sort of thing. I also have a 19'' Mag that I only use for programming and such, has a similar response rate officially, and that one ghosts like a mother.

Having a low response rate is great, but numbers don't always tell the whole story.
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Old 08-16-2004, 11:26 AM   #4
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1. 20" Dell 2001FP.
2. Gaming, movies, desktop applications
3. 16ms (minimal responce quoted). I know that grey shades take a LOT longer on all LCD's.
4. No ghosting noticed.
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Old 08-16-2004, 11:46 AM   #5
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1. 20" Dell 2001FP.
2. Gaming, movies, desktop applications
3. 16ms (minimal responce quoted). I know that grey shades take a LOT longer on all LCD's.
4. No ghosting noticed.
Jebus... how much did that thing cost?
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Old 08-16-2004, 11:49 AM   #6
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Jebus... how much did that thing cost?
$800

It has 1600x1200 native resolution. It's like having 2 monitors.
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Old 08-16-2004, 11:54 AM   #7
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I have an Envision 17". 16ms No ghosting, not even in Doom3 High Quality at 1280 X 1024. This is however an analog LCD not a digital. $300.00
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Old 08-16-2004, 12:01 PM   #8
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1. Samsung 172X 17"
2. Gaming
3. 12ms
4. None
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Old 08-16-2004, 12:37 PM   #9
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Is the analog vs. DVI going to make a big difference for anything?

Right now I'm leaning toward a 17" Sharp 16ms analog only for $399... but I'd really like to make the jump to 19"
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Old 08-16-2004, 12:40 PM   #10
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Depends on the resolution. You probably wouldn't see any difference on resolutions up to 1280x1024 analog vs. DVI. You'd have to be talking pretty high resolutions to really see an improvement.

But, DVI is definitely the future of video displays, and while you can get adapters to go from DVI to VGA, if you can get an LCD that has DVI input I'd pay a little extra for it.
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Old 08-16-2004, 01:43 PM   #11
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Definately go DVI if you can, I saw a huge improvement.

I even did a test on it, same LCD monitor but I had VGA and DVI cables for it. Tried both and DVI looked so much better.
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Old 08-16-2004, 01:46 PM   #12
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Quote:
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Is the analog vs. DVI going to make a big difference for anything?

Right now I'm leaning toward a 17" Sharp 16ms analog only for $399... but I'd really like to make the jump to 19"
Where'd you find this?
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Old 08-16-2004, 01:51 PM   #13
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1: 17"
2: Games (FPS,driving,RPG) and DVD movies
3: 16ms
4: I notice a bit of "tearing" once in a while while playing Asheron's Call. Not evident in Doom 3 of Collin McRae Rally 4.
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I couldn't see a difference between Analog and DVI on desktop applications. Have not tried this for games.
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Old 08-16-2004, 02:06 PM   #15
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17" NEC MultiSync LCD1765
All gaming
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No ghosting or choppiness whatsoever
Price range: $539.99 - $699.00

Best LCD or CRT I have ever owned.
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Old 08-16-2004, 02:08 PM   #16
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Where'd you find this?
www.costco.com... I am considering the 17" or 19" Sharp.

The two downfalls are poor contrast ratio, and no DVI.
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I just found this.

Envision 19" TFT-LCD Flat-Panel Monitor

Good contrast ratio, DVI and VGA, but it doesn't say the response time.
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Old 08-16-2004, 02:21 PM   #18
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I just found this.

Envision 19" TFT-LCD Flat-Panel Monitor

Good contrast ratio, DVI and VGA, but it doesn't say the response time.
25ms
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Old 08-16-2004, 02:23 PM   #19
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3: Monitor's response time? (25ms, 20ms, 16ms, 12ms)
Keep in mind that a 20ms monitor will not necessarily perform better than a 16ms monitor. You get what you pay for.

So, do a little research and read reviews...Will help you decide.
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Keep in mind that a 20ms monitor will not necessarily perform better than a 16ms monitor. You get what you pay for.

So, do a little research and read reviews...Will help you decide.
Ummm a 20ms monitor isn't supposed to perform better than a 16ms monitor.
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1. Dell 1901FP (19")
2. Desktop/gaming/movies
3. 25ms
4. No

Quote:
Originally Posted by il96
I couldn't see a difference between Analog and DVI on desktop applications. Have not tried this for games.
same here...

Quote:
Originally Posted by z wrx
Definately go DVI if you can, I saw a huge improvement.

I even did a test on it, same LCD monitor but I had VGA and DVI cables for it. Tried both and DVI looked so much better.
I definitely will try it out (DVI). When I first got my LCD, I didn't really play any games so I just left it on VGA because I wanted to see the bootup screens...
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Old 08-16-2004, 02:44 PM   #23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Asinine
1: What size LCD do you use?
2: Use? (FPS, movies, etc)
3: Monitor's response time? (25ms, 20ms, 16ms, 12ms)
4: Do you notice any ghosting or choppiness at all?
18.1 inches

Everything

16ms

Choppiness only when the fps gets below 30fps
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Old 08-16-2004, 02:53 PM   #24
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Quote:
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1. 20" Dell 2001FP.
2. Gaming, movies, desktop applications
3. 16ms (minimal responce quoted). I know that grey shades take a LOT longer on all LCD's.
4. No ghosting noticed.
ditto on the dell 2001fp. It is "the bomb" as far as LCD monitors go. no ghosting, super crisp gfx. If you have the $$$$ I dont think you can do better.
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Damn my LCD sucks at 25 ms!

Viewsonic VA720
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