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Old 08-18-2004, 07:25 AM   #1
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:28 AM   #2
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It's just like any other car companies immobilizer you will just loose a key. I have done several of the outbacks and legacy's already.
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:31 AM   #3
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Lose a key? Please explain. I'd like to have this done, but not if it is going to compromise the added security of the Immobilizer setup.
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:57 AM   #4
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search the internet for DEI 555U or 556U it should explain it it is basicly a box that the key goes inside whith a ring that transmits the data to the key cylinder. you can grind the key down or just have subaru program you an uncut key. However i'm sure that if you wait a while bypasskit.com will have something that does not involve a key it just takes time. If you are truely interested search there site it is of poor quality but very informative.
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Old 08-19-2004, 07:26 AM   #5
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One of the vehicle's coded keys must be installed permanently inside the 555U. When the remote start is activated, the 555U reads the chip in it's key and sends the signal to the vehicle's immobilizer transceiver enabling the vehicle to start and run with the remote starter. When the remote start is shut off, the 555U disconnects from the transceiver, returning the vehicle to it's full protection.
So, what's to stop a thief from ripping open the DEI module, grabbing the uncut or grinded key, and hot-wiring the car? Will tampering with the module effectively disable the starter?
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Old 08-19-2004, 07:38 AM   #6
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Hopefully the alarm will stop the thief but if not there is really nothing to stop them as long as the find the key disable the alarm and can fool the car into thinking the key s in the ignition while cranking the starter. That is why you need to take the car to a reputable installer who is not just going to leave the module out in the open.
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Old 08-19-2004, 12:20 PM   #7
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So, what's to stop a thief from ripping open the DEI module, grabbing the uncut or grinded key, and hot-wiring the car? Will tampering with the module effectively disable the starter?
Well sometimes you just need to compromise. Perhaps a reduction in security for the connivance of remote starting is worth it. To have both just requires more work (more advanced alarm install). I live in a cold area where the chances of getting a car stolen is probably remote to none.
Everyone has different situations with different solutions.
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Old 08-19-2004, 12:34 PM   #8
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My viper 791 has this function. I had to give up a key for my 05 immobilizer but they viper 791 comes with its own immobilizer so its cool.
Ordered my Sti key a couple of days ago.
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Old 08-19-2004, 12:35 PM   #9
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Thanks for the info. I guess my main problem now is finding a reputable installer who would be willing to put a remote starter in a manual car. Seems kind of silly to me that they are still illegal with the type of failsafes that the better systems have in them. The ones that have you get out of the car while running in neutral, so you can then arm and shut off the engine sound pretty fool-proof to me. Maybe someone should revise that law.

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Old 08-19-2004, 02:43 PM   #10
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Thanks for the info. I guess my main problem now is finding a reputable installer who would be willing to put a remote starter in a manual car. Seems kind of silly to me that they are still illegal with the type of failsafes that the better systems have in them. The ones that have you get out of the car while running in neutral, so you can then arm and shut off the engine sound pretty fool-proof to me. Maybe someone should revise that law.
THERE IS SOMETHING COOL ABOUT THE WRX AND THE STI.
Both these cars have a neutral sensing wire. This will be wired into any DEI alarm brand and maybe others. I had mines installed at Tweeters and this intersting fact was made known to me.
Tell them your car has a neutral sensing wire or something like that and you are all good.
Goodluck and peace.
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Old 08-19-2004, 04:08 PM   #11
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Old 08-19-2004, 04:33 PM   #12
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I just used the valet key for mine and filed it down. The module itself is well-hidden, so I'm not too worried about it. No valet is ever going to drive the car, so I had no problem with giving up that key. I used the 556U with the Compustar 2WSS-AS, and everything works great!
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What's the difference between 556U and 555U?
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AFAIK, the 556U is just like "this year's model" of the 555U. Functionally they are the same.
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Old 08-19-2004, 08:35 PM   #15
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So, what's to stop a thief from ripping open the DEI module, grabbing the uncut or grinded key, and hot-wiring the car? Will tampering with the module effectively disable the starter?
if a thief wants your car NOTHING will stop them, unless you have a large dog or a person in the car.
any aftermarket alarm with gps would be the best bet to save you car from being torn down to pieces. also a very good installer would be icing on the cake too.
but if i was a professional thief, i wouldnt waist my time digging for a key inside a car, hidden also. too much time to deal with.
i would just flat bed the darn thing out, then gut it slowly inside a garage, find the darn gps/ alarm and have someone toss it into the ocean.
ONCE AGAIN, I AM NOT A THIEF!!! just a highly trained professional installer. cheers........................
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