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Old 08-25-2004, 02:42 PM   #1
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I have heard of a few ways you can go about this. Of cousre the stage1 base map of 91 or 93 octane. I have had my real time map the same as my base map(Stage1 91 octane 1.17) since I flashed the car. I did not do a reset thought, but it has been about 600 miles. The car feals so much better,, and I am happy. I get 13.1psi max boost in 5th. I dont really care about max boost because I love how the car drives now. But I want to get the most out of my AP. So my question is should I do a reset now? If so I am going to have to let it learn all over again correct? And should I change my real time map, to stock? Is that the same as having no realtime map? I have heard of some 04 people doing this. Any insight would be great!! thanks much

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Old 08-25-2004, 03:31 PM   #2
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If the car is behaving why do a reset?

If you have your realtime set to stock, the car will try to behave like stock. You need to have Stg. 1 real time map or no real time map to use a Stg 1 base map (even though the multiplier data etc. is stored by the base map only).
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Old 08-25-2004, 03:39 PM   #3
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I just heard of people doing a reset and the the car is even better. I decided just to ride it out and let it learn on its own. I just dont know if it can be even better. A little greedy I guess!

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Old 08-25-2004, 09:32 PM   #4
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Old 08-26-2004, 09:15 AM   #5
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As I understand it, when you reset the car, the multipliers revert to the "middle of the road" setting. If the ECU sees knocking, they will back off; otherwise they will go up as far as the ECU sees no knocking. This is the "learning" that occurs so as long as you have good gas, etc., your car will become more powerful as time goes on. Resetting the car gives you a blank slate which can be good if you have some ECU problems or if you've made changes but otherwise just let it ride...
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Old 08-28-2004, 03:35 AM   #6
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I get 14.5 PSI in 4th gear w/ AP Stage 1. I would suggest you did a reset just because your max boost seems a bit low for stage 1. But if you are satisfied with that number then don't touch it.

Just FYI but i gained about .5 pound of boost by installing some intercooler hoses.
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Old 08-28-2004, 03:17 PM   #7
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I do have intercooler hoses, and a axleback. Did you do a reset after you flased? And are you running the 91 or 93 map? Thanks

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Old 08-28-2004, 04:22 PM   #8
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I do have intercooler hoses, and a axleback. Did you do a reset after you flased? And are you running the 91 or 93 map? Thanks

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I havent did a reset since i installed the AP about 2-3 months ago. I'm running the California 91 octane map w/ intercooler hoses and a Stromung catback.
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Old 08-29-2004, 11:23 PM   #9
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Would there be any benefit to running the stage1 93 oct realtime map, with the stage1 91 oct base map>
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Old 08-31-2004, 07:50 PM   #10
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Old 09-01-2004, 01:56 AM   #11
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Would there be any benefit to running the stage1 93 oct realtime map, with the stage1 91 oct base map
Only if you have 93 or higher octane available.
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Old 09-01-2004, 09:26 AM   #12
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I always fill up with 93 octane, but I heard that you should flash to the over octane. I was wondering I can do that for my base map (91) and then use 93 as the realtime. Just not sure about pinging and such.

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Old 09-01-2004, 09:35 AM   #13
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I'm currently at Stage1 91 base / Stage1 91 Realtime in NE Ohio where I can get good Sunoco 93 octane. To me, the extra claimed 5 hp for the 93 octane map wasn't really worth the extra cushion against detonation. You shouldn't have any problems running the 93 realtime map with the 91 base, but if you're really concerned about it send an email to Cobb.

On an only slighly related note, I love my car at Stage 1. That extra torque from 2800 rpm up is really nice, and the throttle response is much better.
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Old 09-01-2004, 09:52 AM   #14
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I love my setup right now also, I am nery pleased. Like I said before the boost isnt a big issue for me because I can really tell the differece now. I just want ALL the performance I can get. Hailwood, what boost are you seeing with your stg1?
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Since I commute in mostly rush hour traffic I havn't really gotten a chance to go WOT in 4th or 5th for very long, but I consistently see 0.095 Mpa (13.77 psi) in 3rd and usually close to 0.1 Mpa (14.5 psi) when I've had the chance to run it hard in 4th. I'll probably get the AP out this weekend and do some live boost readings (assuming I can find a willing passenger ).
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I always fill up with 93 octane, but I heard that you should flash to the over octane. I was wondering I can do that for my base map (91) and then use 93 as the realtime. Just not sure about pinging and such.
Running a map tuned for a slightly lower octane will simply get you a bit of added safety margin in case running conditions aren't optimal or you get a sub-standard tank of gas. If you are not getting any ping with the 93 octane map, then run that and enjoy the extra handful of ponies you get! If you want to keep it as safe as possible and don't mind losing a few ponies, run the 91 octane map.
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