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Old 09-01-2004, 07:25 PM   #1
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Default How to sell someone on STi vs. EVO?

A guy I work with is considering getting either an STi or an EVO. Trouble is, he's leaning toward EVO, and I think it's a big mistake.

Anyone have some good reasons for buying an STi and/or not buying an EVO?
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Old 09-01-2004, 07:39 PM   #2
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You could tell him about Mitsubishi's questionable future.

But if I had ~30k to spend on a car I would seriously consider the Evo vs. the STi too so I don't know what else to tell you.
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Old 09-01-2004, 08:00 PM   #3
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I think it's a big mistake.
What are your reasons for thinking its a mistake? Let us work from there.
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Old 09-01-2004, 08:43 PM   #4
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i personally think the evo is a great car.
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Old 09-01-2004, 09:09 PM   #5
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i'd get an evo MR
only think i don't like is the cheap dash and interior pieces
I see so many STi's and so little EVOs
but STi is awesome too
i don't think u can lose either way
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Old 09-01-2004, 09:12 PM   #6
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i don't think u can lose either way
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Old 09-01-2004, 09:25 PM   #7
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I hate to be that guy who points out the search button, but there have been numerous numerous threads on this subject. It comes down to personal preference, and yes, I dont think you can really lose.
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Old 09-01-2004, 09:25 PM   #8
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I'd rather get the STi just because I prefer Subaru to Mitsu and the interior/exterior of the STi to the EVO. Performance, for me, would be pretty much equal between both cars.
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Old 09-01-2004, 09:40 PM   #9
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Dependability. Although I must agree about can't lose. The EVO is hot, no matter how you look at it! I just think the KNOWN dependability of the Impreza (WRX/STi) is enough for me to go that route.
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Old 09-01-2004, 09:44 PM   #10
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I liked the evo better, and it was cheaper. I bought the STi because it's not a mitsu (had one, won't have another). I love my sti now and wouldn't trade.
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Old 09-01-2004, 10:52 PM   #11
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STi = Subaru (better quality), 6-speed, bigger gas tank, cruise control.

None of above present on the '04 EVO. Those were my decision making points.
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Old 09-01-2004, 10:56 PM   #12
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even bigger decision point, subaru uses boxer engine, horizontally opppossed baby.

boosting 14psi stock, EVO boosting 19psi stock. THERE.
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Old 09-01-2004, 10:56 PM   #13
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Dependability. Although I must agree about can't lose. The EVO is hot, no matter how you look at it! I just think the KNOWN dependability of the Impreza (WRX/STi) is enough for me to go that route.
The 4G63 has been through constant R&D for 14+ years. I go the EVO route.
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Old 09-01-2004, 11:01 PM   #14
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Both cars are incredible. Neither is going to be a big mistake... hell, I would personally just go for the less gawdy of the two, which at this point in time would probably be the Evo. Don't get me wrong though, it's almost as bad as the STi, just more fixable.
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Old 09-01-2004, 11:16 PM   #15
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Tell him to look up how the Evo is doing in the WRC
Since both cars are at there highest rice levels, point out the Evos rear altezza taillights and the engine and compare it to a Honda.
Also type in Mitsubishi + Destroy on a search engine, pretty evil company, theyve fuct up some ****
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Old 09-01-2004, 11:35 PM   #16
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or just let him test drive the cars and make is own decission
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Old 09-02-2004, 12:18 AM   #17
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Its been said 3 million times on the boards.... the biggest difference between the two is whether or not Mitsubishi is going to still be around 4 or 5 years from now to service the Evo. Othewr then that, test drive, and let your freind pick on what body he likes more. Not a whole lot of performance differnce between the two cars.

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Old 09-02-2004, 01:02 AM   #18
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God forbid your friend gets the car that he likes the most

Just tell the guy that Evo's are made from wood, and while they are buoyant, they tend to crack after a few hard rains, and thier not lined with nomex, so the slightest engine spark could set the whole thing on fire.
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Old 09-02-2004, 01:27 AM   #19
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I own both a STi and a EVO RS

honestly they both have thier points.

However I can say that the 05 versions of each are the ones to own... (lol both of mine are 04's). Both got massive upgrades in the year change, with minimal to no price increase.

That said, I'm sorry but bone stock the EVO simply doens't have the motor to compete with the STi in that relm. I need to drive a 05 STi to see if they have come close to the EVO's turn in and initial front end bite that makes it so easy to drive fast. However the 04 RS and all 05 EVO's have a front LSD so they no longer are behind the 8-ball on exit speeds like the older EVO's.
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Old 09-02-2004, 04:24 AM   #20
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I personally would get the STi for the interior and better overall daily-driveability. I love the low end grunt that the Evo lacks. All and all, I think it's splitting hairs to choose between either.
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Old 09-02-2004, 06:19 AM   #21
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My friend was facing the same decision.
He owned a S2K prior to buying a new car and liked the fact that he needed to really drive
the car to get it around corners. Knowing what & how your friend
likes to drive is important when trying to sell him one car over the other.
We ended up taking a test drive in both cars. To all the evo owners that read
this, please don't take this the wrong way. This is completely subjective
The STI was the 2L PPP version with 300+hp and the EVO FQ300. Both he and I really felt better in
the STI just because it requires you to be more involved. We took a 3 mile long
twisty road for ref and ran it twice up and then down and realized that we didn't
like the "Zero Countersteer" ability of the evo. we could go in to a fast sweeping downhill bend
too fast and just by lifting and pointing the wheels to where we want to go the car would
completely sort itself out. This is evidence of the great work Mitsu did with the AYC etc. but
you feel dissconected and once we get comfortable with this it got REALLY boring.
Then we got into the STI.
Engine felt better and pickup and power is the first thing we noticed
but that was nothing compared to the rush we got once we hit the first curve. Aftrer taking it with the evo
we were happy that we finally needed to work to get the car around the bend. The STI's front diff works
really good (once it kicks in) but we have both driven it and knew that
initial understeer calls for keeping your foot down. Both of us had scary moments when
driving but that can be excused after driving the uneventfull evo. One more thing, the days when
the stock evo would always clock better track times than a stock STI are gone. They are almost the same
with the STI being a little faster because of the engine. I can keep going but I think that the biggest and
best selling feature of the STI is that it needs the driver to drive it to show it's full potential.
These cars were ment to be driven on winding roads and when I get there with my green monster which
has had more upgrades since my last post about it all I can say is ohhh mama. It requires all of your attention
and dedication to go fast and that is what I like.

Sorry for the lengthy post.

Oh, almost forgot my friend bought the STI

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Old 09-02-2004, 07:54 AM   #22
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A guy I work with is considering getting either an STi or an EVO. Trouble is, he's leaning toward EVO, and I think it's a big mistake.

Anyone have some good reasons for buying an STi and/or not buying an EVO?
Allow him to test drive both cars.
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Old 09-02-2004, 09:51 AM   #23
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obviously people here are completly biased towards one of the 2, go to a DSM or EVO board and see what they say...

Tell your friend the EVO MR is better, because fact of facts is that its cheaper by thousands, its faster by leaps and bounds, it turns harder, better, than the STi and will be lighter and the 4g63 is the most dependable engine. IE my buddy had a 03 EVO and with just intake s-afc and clutch, he ran 30psi for a entire year before he broke his tranny launched the F out of it @ PIR, running against a Subaru who blew his turbo and tranny on the same run.

Tell your friend to wait for the MR cuz there is no doubt it is a better cheaper, faster, more reliable car.
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Old 09-02-2004, 11:13 AM   #24
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MR is the way to go if you are going the EVO route.
But have a look at the reviews of the UK Spec STI which is what we get in my paryt of the world
and you will see that it is superior to the outgoing STI. No idea how it will compare to the MR as far as handling goes but they should be a close match.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?http:/...y.php?id=49693

and

http://www.channel4.co.uk/4car/road-...x-sti/sti.html

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Old 09-02-2004, 12:14 PM   #25
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blah blah blah, this is all u need to know......... even bigger decision point, subaru uses boxer engine, horizontally opppossed baby.

boosting 14psi stock, EVO boosting 19psi stock. THERE.
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