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Old 10-21-2004, 06:57 PM   #1
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Question 93 2.2t intercooler

ok i have a wrx intercooler on my stock 2.2t engine, but the intercooler is all messed up. i looked up the engine to see what kind of intercooler was accually used stock and it didnt show one, i showed a pipe instead. so does this mean i can just run it stock with no intercooler and a have metal tubing fitted for it?? im not going to do any racing or anything until i start upgrading, i just need something to get from place to place right now, would it hurt to not have an intercooler?? thanks
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Old 10-21-2004, 07:08 PM   #2
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turbo legacys never had an intercooler, like you said, they have a plastic pipe. if you have the stock turbo you should be able to just go to a dealer or a junkyard and find the pipe. but remember if you start turning up the boost and changing turbos, and intercooler is a must.
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Old 10-21-2004, 07:11 PM   #3
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oh yeah, i have everything stock right now, and i have plastic plumbing pipe in there right now, but i dont have the blowoff valve, there is a place right down the road called pro-flow which could put some custom piping in for me and a place to mount the blowoff valve. thanks
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Old 10-21-2004, 07:13 PM   #4
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No factory IC. You can run the car with no IC, just dont go past the 11 psi range.
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Old 10-21-2004, 07:20 PM   #5
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do you have a picture from the front?? oh and where do you have the blow off valve, because the guy helping is trying to argue with me saying that i dont need it.
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Old 10-21-2004, 07:44 PM   #6
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do you have a picture from the front?? oh and where do you have the blow off valve, because the guy helping is trying to argue with me saying that i dont need it.
If you dont have a blow off valve you can piss your turbo good by in a few k miles. The OEM bov is under the pipe. I have some pics let me find them.
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Old 10-21-2004, 07:50 PM   #7
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Here you can see the pipe that has duct tape on it is the OEM pipe that goes from the intake pipe to the bov. The bov is just before the TB, but on the underside. I dont have my car up here at college so I cant take any pics.
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Old 10-22-2004, 04:46 AM   #8
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turbo legacys never had an intercooler, like you said, they have a plastic pipe. if you have the stock turbo you should be able to just go to a dealer or a junkyard and find the pipe. but remember if you start turning up the boost and changing turbos, and intercooler is a must.


Yeah everyone except US got intercooled legacies. Water/air 89-92 and then air/air thru to present. Y dont u dump that crappy pipe put ure WRX intercooler on as ure first mod itd be worth some extra ponies for sure. theyre pretty easy to modify to fit just get some bends and redo the whole intake
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Old 10-22-2004, 01:56 PM   #9
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i have a blow off valve, i have the oem and a perrin adjustable. as far as the intercooler goes the wrx intercooler i have has kind of a big problem. the intake wasnt taking in enough air and sucked the filter apart. small pieces of it is all through the intercooler, so im going to get the pipe put on, then upgrade the turbo. im going to have to buy a new intercooler either way because the guy that i bought the car from had the intercooler rigged up and there is alot of leaks through out the hosing. this is just to have the car running, because as of right now i dont have a car to drive. thanks
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Old 10-22-2004, 03:40 PM   #10
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What kind of filter did you have? I have never heard of a filter getting sucked into the intake. I hope nothing got past the IC and into the motor.

might try bbs.legacycentral.org

i am sure you can find a turbo/TB pipe there.
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Old 10-22-2004, 03:45 PM   #11
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oh no, it was pulling it apart, ill take pictures of it and post them, it was little pieces, but you know how small the fins are in the intercooler. and i checked everything, im pretty sure its all in the intercooler. i bought a new filter with a screen mess in it so that it wont happen again. thats how i bought it though. so im not really sure what happened.
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Old 10-22-2004, 05:08 PM   #12
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oh no, it was pulling it apart, ill take pictures of it and post them, it was little pieces, but you know how small the fins are in the intercooler. and i checked everything, im pretty sure its all in the intercooler. i bought a new filter with a screen mess in it so that it wont happen again. thats how i bought it though. so im not really sure what happened.
I'm wondering how the pieces went through the Maf sensor (they have screens don't they) and through the hot turbo fins up into the intercooler. Those are some nasty aggressive pieces of filter.
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Old 10-22-2004, 05:49 PM   #13
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i dont know if thats what is cloguing it, thats what im guessing, i pulled out the filter and it was starting to suck the filter part out. and im talking about a lot of small pieces, maybe one piece isnt alot, but they add up if they collected in one spot.
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Old 10-23-2004, 03:28 AM   #14
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You are fine to run stock with no IC. Turbo Legacys make a fun 160ish HP. If you use a BOV not the stock one make sure to plug the return pipe. When you say upgrage the IC what are you looking at, the WRX intercooler is OK on some 280hp WRX's. That is a long way to go from 160hp
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Old 10-23-2004, 11:37 AM   #15
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I am 99% sure that a 02-05 WRX I/C will not fit without some banging of the firewall. You can go without it as others have already mentioned. If you decide to up the boost and install a top mount then check with vendors and search for the actual foreign market intercooler made for that car. The early Ver I-Ver III WRX I/C works perfectly.
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Old 10-23-2004, 02:12 PM   #16
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I am 99% sure that a 02-05 WRX I/C will not fit without some banging of the firewall. You can go without it as others have already mentioned. If you decide to up the boost and install a top mount then check with vendors and search for the actual foreign market intercooler made for that car. The early Ver I-Ver III WRX I/C works perfectly.
I know some folks have taken a dremel or grinder to the TB to shorten it to make room for the WRX TMIC. I have a spare if anyone want to go this route and not alter their stocker...

But personally I would buy an upgraded TMIC from MRT that was designed to fit the Liberty/Legacy turbos...
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Old 10-23-2004, 04:00 PM   #17
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When i said upgrade the intercooler, i meant when i get a bigger turbo then i will also get an intercooler. i was planning on getting a TD05-16g, any suggestions on which intercooler is should get?? I also found a stock TB pipe. the only problem now is where i should put the blow off valve. and i also was wondering is there somewhere that it dumps the boost, because im afraid that when it opens to dump, water or dirt will get sucked into the bov. thanks
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Old 10-24-2004, 12:49 AM   #18
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When i said upgrade the intercooler, i meant when i get a bigger turbo then i will also get an intercooler. i was planning on getting a TD05-16g, any suggestions on which intercooler is should get?? I also found a stock TB pipe. the only problem now is where i should put the blow off valve. and i also was wondering is there somewhere that it dumps the boost, because im afraid that when it opens to dump, water or dirt will get sucked into the bov. thanks
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Use the stock ej22t bov.
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Old 10-24-2004, 01:56 PM   #19
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Another option is a Saab 900 Intercooler and a Mazda RX-7 Inline BOV. It's pretty easy to make up some piping for it. We pressure tested mine to 30 psi.

You can get them on ebay for about $40 - $100

Here's Subachads old engine

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Old 10-24-2004, 05:39 PM   #20
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Ok, i think i have it now....a guy gave me a site to download the manual for the engine. it shows me where everything goes. i feel like a jacka**, turns out the bov i was trying to use was the stock wrx bov from the intercooler. i feel like an idiot. well thanks for everyone's help. i appriciate it. thanks
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Old 10-25-2004, 12:08 AM   #21
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Good u sorted it out, me finks. What is the addr. of the site u d/l the manual from? i cant seem to find much...... thnx
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Old 10-25-2004, 02:55 AM   #22
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Hey its all good. When I first started on this site I knew nothing about cars, now I am tuning by myself , swaping out things like manifolds....

You learn by posting and asking question. Dont be scared but look out cause some of the forums can be kind of harsh. You might find bbs.legacycentral.org a nicer place. I post on both because the both have good things. This site has so many people while Legacycentral seems to have nicer and more well educated people.
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ncarn8, heres the original site with the different manual's. http://www.finleyweb.net/default.asp?id=142 i d/l the parts manual.

subiekid, i agree with you, most of the people are nice on this smart and reply quickly where as on legacy central more people understand subbie's. but i wouldnt have found that site if you wouldnt have given it to me, thanks.
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Cheers sti that was exactly what i was after. good luck with ure project
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hey thanks man. good luck to you too
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