Put OE 12.4" Rotors on your Subaru! - 05 Turbo Legacy Brakes for your Impreza!! - Page 3

DrBiggly · 09-12-2004, 04:01 PM

Ooooh.....oops! Thanks for the clarification.

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Folger Subaru · 09-16-2004, 11:38 AM

Finished the install on the rears last night. There are a few more things to work around, but they are on and work great!!

We have received some but not all of the parts for the rears. Hopefully we'll be ready to start shipping rears within the next 1-1 1/2 weeks.

Pics to follow....

Steven

TubeDriver · 09-16-2004, 02:48 PM

Looks very interesting, this could be THE budget setup for the WRX. The painted coating is icing on the cake. Looks like I will probably need a set of 17" winter wheels.

DrBiggly · 09-16-2004, 02:54 PM

I'll be driving it this weekend on the street and in competition (Subaru Challenge #1.) I'll try to give some feedback about it. Keep in mind that it's not entirely scientific, although I do intend to pull out the ol' G-tech for some 60-0 runs if I can find the thing.

gvr4drew · 09-16-2004, 03:02 PM

I just read through this thread; forgive me if it's already been answered, does the rear setup need 17" or will they fit under the stock 16x6.5?

Folger Subaru · 09-16-2004, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gvr4drew

I just read through this thread; forgive me if it's already been answered, does the rear setup need 17" or will they fit under the stock 16x6.5?

The rears only will fit 16's, as they are really no different than the "H6" setup.

Steven

DrBiggly · 09-20-2004, 05:28 PM

Well, I've had the chance to drive the car with both the front and rears on and I must say that it's really impressive. I also had the chance to autox the car (along with my co-driver.) My style is a little smoother and I felt a change with the brakes for autox, but he noticed a much larger difference and thought they were an even bigger advantage than I.

I'm going to see if the old G-tech still works sometime in the next couple of days now that I'm back from the Subaru Challenge and try to figure out some 60-0 numbers.

bemani · 09-21-2004, 12:03 AM

What's the penalty on acceleration?

Oh, and does the front include new backing plates?

Folger Subaru · 09-21-2004, 12:24 PM

Update: We're ready to ship on fronts & rears!!

Steven - parts@folgerautomotive.com

Siper2 · 09-25-2004, 03:37 PM

Just when I'm getting excited about finally moving up to WRX fronts and H-6 rears, the '05 GT has to come out and rain on my parade.

Figures.

(I'd love to do it, but want to keep 16"s for winter at least. Sorry, guys!)

=S2=

subysouth · 09-25-2004, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Folger Subaru

The only bad news at the moment: We ended up only having 1 caliper come in on the order Friday.

I have found that we got the only caliper in the US currently, that isn't already on a car. lol....

Steven

Interestingly that rear option has been around awhile. I(and a couple of other NASIOC members) have had a set of these on the rear of our cars for almost 2 years now. Its been on the B4/GT-Bs since 2001. The Legacy forum broke this option out a long time ago. Of course not everyone reads the Legacy forum....

Just about everything you have posted is correct. It is a unique caliper(others specualted its the older Legacy Turbo caliper on a new bracket - its not.)

Brief on rear rotors:
WRX 266x10(170)mm
Old BC/BF Legacy Turbos 266x18(170)mm
"H6" Legacy 290x10(170)mm
05Legacy GT 290x18(170)mm
STi 316x20(190)mm

Several points that I think you might want to address:

1. Affects on Bias? The advantage of that massive front caliper and rotor is obvious BUT what are the caliper piston sizes in that caliper. Too much brake torque output on the front makes the car brake worse(even though it may be able to consume more heat.) Based on your reviews it may be that Subaru has put a smaller caliper piston in the caliper to compensate for the larger diameter rotor. It would be win-win then. [The rear upgrade outputs identical brake torque as the "H6" upgrade - its just also vented.]

2. I beleive the pads used on this setup are the same as the 04+ WRX pads but different from the earlier pads. You might want to re-verify pad compatibility again. North Ursalia had a thread a while back in the brakes forum about this. Effective 05 the "H6" brake setup is no more and AFAIK this setup uses a different pad from the earlier designs. Its not a big ordeal one way or the other, just not wanting anybody to get caught flat-footed.

Great work tho.

ss

JC · 09-28-2004, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siper2

Just when I'm getting excited about finally moving up to WRX fronts and H-6 rears, the '05 GT has to come out and rain on my parade.

Figures.

(I'd love to do it, but want to keep 16"s for winter at least. Sorry, guys!)

=S2=

You feel bad, I already bought 4 pots.

WRX Bamboo Steamer · 09-30-2004, 10:44 AM

I second the question about backing plates, specifically for the front. Are properly fitting ones available?

Davenow · 09-30-2004, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stratos

Nice! $550 for the rears is a great alternative to trying to convert to rear Brembo's, for those of us who who have the fronts and are looking for a little better front/rear bias.

The H6 rear conversion is like half that much and is IIRC the same thing.

Davenow · 09-30-2004, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC

You feel bad, I already bought 4 pots.

4 pots have a better feel, and bone stock brakes will already provide more braking power than your tires can handle. The 4 pots are a far superior setup.

That said this is a killer conversion for the money, and it looks stock so as to not draw any unwanted attention

Siper2 · 10-02-2004, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC

You feel bad, I already bought 4 pots.

I'll trade ya one fancy-shmancy stock 13mm rear swaybar for an '00 RS for them, if you're desperate to unload.

gtguy · 10-03-2004, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CtGT

How does the front 12.4" 2 pot legacy set-up compare to the subaru 4-pot front set-up. For the price you can get the 4 pots for less, but is there are big difference performance wise with the turbo legacy set-up?
Thanks

I can speak to this, as I went from a WRX with the 4-pots, Goodridge lines and SuperBlue to the Legacy GT, stock brakes, same wheels and tires (Prodrive P1s/Dunlop 9000s).

The GT's brakes stop better. A LOT better. There's nothing like a 1" size upgrade all round (front and rear) to improve brake torque. The GT's brakes don't quite have the feel of my WRX setup, but that's easy to fix, if so desired.

Kevin

crazyhorse · 10-03-2004, 05:47 PM

Personally I believe the GT break setup stops every bit as good as my STi brakes.... which surprised the hell outta me.

BTW.. if anyone has a hard time contacting Steven or needs an immediate response you can always email me: tmckenzie@folgerautomotive.com

WRX Bamboo Steamer · 10-04-2004, 11:20 AM

Will the fronts fit with UK 17" wheels?

crazyhorse · 10-04-2004, 11:24 AM

Now that's one I'm not sure about. I'll talk to the parts deptartment guys and we could always work something out if they didn't fit. Let me know what you'd like to do.

WRX Bamboo Steamer · 10-04-2004, 11:53 AM

Thanks CrazyHorse,

I sent an email to the address listed in the first message asking about using a combination of SubaruBucks and a Credit Card. If they don't fit and I have to return them, I wonder what would become of the SBucks. Maybe a credit toward a STI block?

crazyhorse · 10-04-2004, 12:02 PM

Technically.. we could put that money towards whatever OEM stuff you wanted. Talked to Mike back in parts and he said that if they didn't fit you'd be more than welcome to return them. I'm thinking they'll fit but I don't know of anyone around here with those wheels to test it for sure. The credit card + subaru bucks bit wouldn't be a problem at all. Just let me know if we need to send a set your way.

BTW... Steven has gone back to his old employer after they made him one killer deal. So Mike and I will be handling our sales on here. I technically work up front in Sales but I try to help as much as I can.

AcquaCow · 10-04-2004, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

BTW... Steven has gone back to his old employer after they made him one killer deal. So Mike and I will be handling our sales on here. I technically work up front in Sales but I try to help as much as I can.

Well I guess that just killed any sort of "deal" I would have gotten on the H6's =P Or not...

So are you my new POC for that?

-- Dave

WRX Bamboo Steamer · 10-04-2004, 12:19 PM

OK, I want a set for the front. I actually have $700 in SubaruBucks. Can you fill out the remaining $ with oil and air filters. How do I get the Sbucks to you? And finally, any word on backing plates?

Thanks!

crazyhorse · 10-04-2004, 12:31 PM

Dave - Steven and I have been friends for quite a while now... He's still checking email, etc and working closely with the dealership. No worries there... If you need immediate help I'm your best bet but whatever he worked out is still in place.

Bamboo - I may have you give Mike a call here at the dealership. Let me talk to him really quick and I'll shoot you a PM. Thanks!

09-21-2004, 12:03 AM	#58
bemani Scooby Specialist Member Sales Rating: (7) Member#: 5673 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Folsom, CA Vehicle: 2002 WRX/2005 LGT 09 Ducati M696/ZX6R	What's the penalty on acceleration? Oh, and does the front include new backing plates? Last edited by bemani; 09-21-2004 at 12:11 AM.

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Folger Subaru Vendor Vendor Sales Rating: (2) Member#: 41426 Join Date: Aug 2003 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Charlotte, NC	Finished the install on the rears last night. There are a few more things to work around, but they are on and work great!! We have received some but not all of the parts for the rears. Hopefully we'll be ready to start shipping rears within the next 1-1 1/2 weeks. Pics to follow.... Steven

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DrBiggly Scooby Guru Member Sales Rating: (6) Member#: 11482 Join Date: Oct 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Winston-Salem, NC Vehicle: 02 WRX Acute Stickeritis	I'll be driving it this weekend on the street and in competition (Subaru Challenge #1.) I'll try to give some feedback about it. Keep in mind that it's not entirely scientific, although I do intend to pull out the ol' G-tech for some 60-0 runs if I can find the thing.

09-16-2004, 03:02 PM	#55
gvr4drew Scooby Newbie Member Sales Rating: (0) Member#: 27128 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Vehicle: 2002 WRX WRB	I just read through this thread; forgive me if it's already been answered, does the rear setup need 17" or will they fit under the stock 16x6.5?

09-20-2004, 05:28 PM	#57
DrBiggly Scooby Guru Member Sales Rating: (6) Member#: 11482 Join Date: Oct 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Winston-Salem, NC Vehicle: 02 WRX Acute Stickeritis	Well, I've had the chance to drive the car with both the front and rears on and I must say that it's really impressive. I also had the chance to autox the car (along with my co-driver.) My style is a little smoother and I felt a change with the brakes for autox, but he noticed a much larger difference and thought they were an even bigger advantage than I. I'm going to see if the old G-tech still works sometime in the next couple of days now that I'm back from the Subaru Challenge and try to figure out some 60-0 numbers.

09-21-2004, 12:24 PM	#59
Folger Subaru Vendor Vendor Sales Rating: (2) Member#: 41426 Join Date: Aug 2003 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Charlotte, NC	Update: We're ready to ship on fronts & rears!! Steven - parts@folgerautomotive.com

09-25-2004, 03:37 PM	#60
Siper2 Scooby Guru Member Sales Rating: (33) Member#: 1134 Join Date: Mar 2000 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Dillsburg, PA Vehicle: 2007 BMW 328xi wagon Silver	Just when I'm getting excited about finally moving up to WRX fronts and H-6 rears, the '05 GT has to come out and rain on my parade. Figures. (I'd love to do it, but want to keep 16"s for winter at least. Sorry, guys!) =S2=

09-30-2004, 10:44 AM	#63
WRX Bamboo Steamer Scooby Newbie Member Sales Rating: (0) Member#: 8239 Join Date: Jul 2001	I second the question about backing plates, specifically for the front. Are properly fitting ones available?

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crazyhorse Scooby Guru Member Sales Rating: (2) Member#: 19502 Join Date: Jun 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 2010 Impreza with no scoop. =(	Personally I believe the GT break setup stops every bit as good as my STi brakes.... which surprised the hell outta me. BTW.. if anyone has a hard time contacting Steven or needs an immediate response you can always email me: tmckenzie@folgerautomotive.com

10-04-2004, 11:20 AM	#69
WRX Bamboo Steamer Scooby Newbie Member Sales Rating: (0) Member#: 8239 Join Date: Jul 2001	Will the fronts fit with UK 17" wheels?

10-04-2004, 11:24 AM	#70
crazyhorse Scooby Guru Member Sales Rating: (2) Member#: 19502 Join Date: Jun 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 2010 Impreza with no scoop. =(	Now that's one I'm not sure about. I'll talk to the parts deptartment guys and we could always work something out if they didn't fit. Let me know what you'd like to do.

10-04-2004, 11:53 AM	#71
WRX Bamboo Steamer Scooby Newbie Member Sales Rating: (0) Member#: 8239 Join Date: Jul 2001	Thanks CrazyHorse, I sent an email to the address listed in the first message asking about using a combination of SubaruBucks and a Credit Card. If they don't fit and I have to return them, I wonder what would become of the SBucks. Maybe a credit toward a STI block?

10-04-2004, 12:02 PM	#72
crazyhorse Scooby Guru Member Sales Rating: (2) Member#: 19502 Join Date: Jun 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 2010 Impreza with no scoop. =(	Technically.. we could put that money towards whatever OEM stuff you wanted. Talked to Mike back in parts and he said that if they didn't fit you'd be more than welcome to return them. I'm thinking they'll fit but I don't know of anyone around here with those wheels to test it for sure. The credit card + subaru bucks bit wouldn't be a problem at all. Just let me know if we need to send a set your way. BTW... Steven has gone back to his old employer after they made him one killer deal. So Mike and I will be handling our sales on here. I technically work up front in Sales but I try to help as much as I can.

10-04-2004, 12:19 PM	#74
WRX Bamboo Steamer Scooby Newbie Member Sales Rating: (0) Member#: 8239 Join Date: Jul 2001	OK, I want a set for the front. I actually have $700 in SubaruBucks. Can you fill out the remaining $ with oil and air filters. How do I get the Sbucks to you? And finally, any word on backing plates? Thanks!

10-04-2004, 12:31 PM	#75
crazyhorse Scooby Guru Member Sales Rating: (2) Member#: 19502 Join Date: Jun 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 2010 Impreza with no scoop. =(	Dave - Steven and I have been friends for quite a while now... He's still checking email, etc and working closely with the dealership. No worries there... If you need immediate help I'm your best bet but whatever he worked out is still in place. Bamboo - I may have you give Mike a call here at the dealership. Let me talk to him really quick and I'll shoot you a PM. Thanks!