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Old 09-14-2004, 08:41 PM   #1
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Default Dubya Tee Eff is wrong with my dad?

So my dad grew up as a poor, poor farm boy in Idaho, went through westpoint, is the hardest working individual I know of. He built everything from the gound up, and became a successful commercial real-estate developer. He has always been modest, ie-refuses to buy Mercedes because he thinks they are a status symbol for yuppies.

In my opinion, he is a Bush loving yuppie who belongs in the suburbs, but he is still a wise man, who I have always thought never cared about appearance or anything. Right now he is driving an Audi Allroad, which is a ridiculously nice car yes, but he doesn't think Audi puts out that status aura like Mercedes and BMW do.

One day, I catch word that he is interested in a new car, and wants to buy a used Audi A8 for ~20k. I think this is a horrible idea, and let him know, and he decides I'm right, and sticks with his Allroad. Today, I decide to call him at work and show him the Ltd Edition Legacy 2.5 turbo.

He goes to Subaru's website and checks it out, and agrees that it is a very nice car. I then ask if he is going to test-drive it and he makes on of those iffy noises. I ask why not and he says "because I'm too old and snotty for one of those." I was kind of silent and then just asked him what happened to him not caring about having a status symbol type of car. He tells me he is to an extent, and that he is at least being honest.

I then put up a bunch of points as to why he should drop his 1st Gen Allroad and pick up a Legacy, and I ask him why other than status he should object. He got angry at me and hung up. Is Subaru really considered that low of a name? Maybe it is because I have been a Subaru enthusiast for quite some time,(or my father is just st00ped) but I definitely hold Subaru fairly highly amongst the ranks of car manufacturers. IE-When I am old and rich, I will definitely put the Legacy up to comparison with an A6 or something. Anyways, I just wanted to vent that.
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:43 PM   #2
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Allroad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leggy

Maybe that's why.


My dad has a 350hp allroad
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:43 PM   #3
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I know a lot of people who are ignorant towards Subarus and assume that they're all "old people wagons".
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:44 PM   #4
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How about he does what he wants?
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:45 PM   #5
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How about he does what he wants?
that's unheard of!
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:47 PM   #6
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a. audi allroad is was better than a legacy
b. he is old and worked hard let him get what HE wants... not you want
c. he is old and worked hard let him get the nicer car
d. subaru = joke in car market. i like them, but they [rodney dangerfield]get no respect. [/rodney dangerfield]

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Old 09-14-2004, 08:47 PM   #7
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How about he does what he wants?
he listened to ab about the used a8...then gets mad about the leg...he is using ab's unput
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:48 PM   #8
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Why do you care what your dad drives? It's his car.
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:49 PM   #9
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you know absolut, that volvo just isn't working for you. you should sell it and get a more reasonable corolla.
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:53 PM   #10
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all he tried to do was steer his dad toward a leg...i dont see a big deal with that
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:54 PM   #11
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he listened to ab about the used a8...then gets mad about the leg...he is using ab's unput
True, but he doesn't need to use all of it. When it comes down to it, it's his money, his car.

To clarify, there's nothing wrong with his suggestions, but coming in here and posting VVTF is wrong... is crap. What's next, does he need to raise $1000 so he can go to Europe?

Meanwhile, there are people who have real problems with their parents. Don't sweat the small stuff.
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Old 09-15-2004, 12:22 AM   #12
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My dad has always used me as his advisor to cars. I am the one who showed him the light of the Allroad, and convinced him to buy it. When I first showed it to him, he was almost repulsed by the idea of a wagon, but I convinced him that it fit his needs, now he says it is the best car he has ever owned, and loves it, but hates being wrong to his son. I'm not upset that he's not buying it, he can do whatever he wants. It upset me that he even refused to test drive it and looked down upon a very refined Subaru. I would have agreed with him if I were to have shown him a Scoob from the early-mid 90's or something, but this is a very well manufactured vehicle. I only wanted him to have an open mind towards it, which he usually does (that's how he wound up with the Allroad).

Todd

PS-I know of real problems w/parents...I also have a mother. I just choose to generally not share problems like that with teh ot. It's not like it got under my skin that badly. I had just gotten off the phone with him, and felt like writing this.
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Old 09-15-2004, 12:33 AM   #13
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Subaru is not all that. And a bag of chips.
They have some nice cars, but really, its their choice.
In some situations however, you gotta overcome the bump in the road. For example, my mom would never consider an S2000 becaues shes "too old." I have to remind her that its nonsense, because she really does like the car and is letting a lack of confidence about what other people think get in the way.
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Old 09-15-2004, 12:44 AM   #14
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[sobbing moans] ALL I WANTED WAS A TEST DRIVE [/sobbing moans]

Heh. I honestly could care less if he didn't buy it, even if it is for a dumb reason. It just pissed me off that I am the one who he takes his car advice from, has NEVER been steered wrong by, and for a Subaru he won't even think about test driving it because its a Subaru. On top of that, his best friend owns a Subaru dealership, so he could get hooked up.
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Old 09-15-2004, 01:56 AM   #15
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As much as you might like to think so, Subaru is not yet anywhere near reaching the target markets of Audi, Volvo, Saab, BMW and such.. they're trying, and may get there in time, but their reputation of affordable(read- cheap) 4WD / AWD niche cars is going to stay with them for a long time.. especially with the older crowd that aren't as aware of the diminishing lines between European and Japanese cars.
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Old 09-15-2004, 02:54 AM   #16
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My mom has an allroad. I'd rather have a legacy. It's your dad's money though. He should do what he wants.
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Old 09-15-2004, 03:37 AM   #17
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As much as you might like to think so, Subaru is not yet anywhere near reaching the target markets of Audi, Volvo, Saab, BMW and such.. they're trying, and may get there in time, but their reputation of affordable(read- cheap) 4WD / AWD niche cars is going to stay with them for a long time.. especially with the older crowd that aren't as aware of the diminishing lines between European and Japanese cars.
Well said.


I'd like to add that the sedan market is just about as saturated as the suv market right now, and it's a tough choice for someone who's never owned a Subaru.
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Old 09-15-2004, 04:48 AM   #18
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It's his money and he thinks that European cars are built better. Lots of people who are Audi fans like Audi's and nothing else.

Also since you're dad's been around, if I'm not mistaken Subaru's were marketed toward the gay populace back in the day. Maybe he remembers that.

Dunno man.
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Old 09-15-2004, 06:47 AM   #19
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Well said.


I'd like to add that the sedan market is just about as saturated as the suv market right now, and it's a tough choice for someone who's never owned a Subaru.
Plus it is REALLY hard to admit that your kids know more about something than you do, particulaly when you taught them about it years ago in the first place. The technology has surpassed many parents and they just don't understand how the newer cars function (completely) . It is a case of a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Deb
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[sobbing moans] ALL I WANTED WAS A TEST DRIVE [/sobbing moans]

Heh. I honestly could care less if he didn't buy it, even if it is for a dumb reason. It just pissed me off that I am the one who he takes his car advice from, has NEVER been steered wrong by, and for a Subaru he won't even think about test driving it because its a Subaru. On top of that, his best friend owns a Subaru dealership, so he could get hooked up.
so trade in your volvo for one, take it to his house and have him drive it.
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Old 09-15-2004, 08:09 AM   #21
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Just take that **** right out of here, mister!!
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