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Old 09-21-2004, 12:59 PM   #1
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Default roll-over factor with the baja

does this car have a tendancy to roll-over like a typical truck since it has such high ground clearance?
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Old 09-21-2004, 02:04 PM   #2
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I just got my 05 Baja Turbo about a month ago. This is the first "truck" I've owned. I've always owned little cars and I'm used to throwing them into corners pretty hard and was afraid I'd loose that in a truck. I've tossed my Baja into some hard corners and even the body roll seems pretty limited. The supension is pretty stiff, much stiffer than my wifes Forester.
All the marketing material says that it has a low center of gravity because of the boxer engine.

My buddies Dodge Ram can't corner like my Baja does. Of course, he still pokes fun at it. "I dropped back so I wouldn't run you over"

Take one for a test drive.
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Old 09-21-2004, 02:39 PM   #3
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Its better then most SUVs as far as body-roll All the trucks and SUVs I've owned in the past have a roll-over warning lable on the visor, my BAJA does NOT.
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Old 09-21-2004, 03:32 PM   #4
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i am so close to trading in my wrx for the baja! i hope that there will be a performance reflash in the near future. i would like to see 240hp with the reflash.

i will be visiting a dealership soon so i will figure out alot of things when i take a test drive.

also, i have another question. can you fit 8-foot of moldings or 8-foot of 2x4 lumber in the baja with the switchback and the cab extender? i am in the kitchen design business and i need the baja to carry a cabinet or two and even some 8 foot sticks of crown molding to jobsites. but i always hated trucks and especially suv's but my job is almost forcing me to purchase some type of "truck".
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Old 09-21-2004, 06:21 PM   #5
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As a benchmark for handling/rollover risk...

My Baja can take the a curve out near where I live at 15mph or more faster than the Explorer I used to have, and a full 20mph or more than the Explorer Sport Trac (renowed for being tipsy) I used to have before that... notice that all three of these vehicles share a 8.5" ground clearance... the center of gravity is still a mile lower on the Baja than any conventional truck or SUV...

I am very surprised at the handling of the Baja... especially coming from the SUV world (and the VW world before that)... the Turbo has to be the fastest, best handling mini-truck on the market...

As for the length of items, my only $0.02 is that I am 6'5" and when I was running the antenna for my XM radio out of the Switchback, my feet were on the edge of the tailgate, my gut was through the Switchback and my torso was on the back seat shelf... I figure you may have to run things up to the passenger seat to fit inside of the bed extender or let about 1-2' hang over the end of the tailgate... Of course, this is only a gut-estimate...
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Old 09-21-2004, 08:00 PM   #6
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This link has a photo of 14 foot moldings fitting in a Baja

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ferrerid=66639
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Old 09-21-2004, 10:43 PM   #7
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The website explains it all (about rollover tendency). The boxer engine (as mentioned above), is part of the anti-roll. It's flat, and therefore balanced out with the weight transfer of the vehicle. All wheel drive also aids in this because you don't have just the front pulling or the rear pushing. This is why you can shove the baja into a corner, hit the gas, and actually pull through. I have noticed these tires scream like a 70's car chase though. To be blunt...I drive 2 styles of trucks, and 3 styles of cars on some days (as a fleet manager). The trucks (Ranger's and Ram's) have their own style, but the roll tendency is great because it's a truck. The cars (Cutlass, Taurus 97's and 05's), roll because they are all fwd. That rear loves to try and meet the front if you push it in a turn. How do I know this? Sometimes I forget what car I'm in (not the baja), and find out the hard way. LOL The baja is a very balanced car and I love it. The ground clearance is great, but not too high. The suspension is soft, but not too soft. It's a great car, and Subaru should be happy with their achievement...I am!
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Old 09-23-2004, 12:37 PM   #8
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The website explains it all (about rollover tendency). The boxer engine (as mentioned above), is part of the anti-roll. It's flat, and therefore balanced out with the weight transfer of the vehicle. All wheel drive also aids in this because you don't have just the front pulling or the rear pushing. This is why you can shove the baja into a corner, hit the gas, and actually pull through. I have noticed these tires scream like a 70's car chase though. To be blunt...I drive 2 styles of trucks, and 3 styles of cars on some days (as a fleet manager). The trucks (Ranger's and Ram's) have their own style, but the roll tendency is great because it's a truck. The cars (Cutlass, Taurus 97's and 05's), roll because they are all fwd. That rear loves to try and meet the front if you push it in a turn. How do I know this? Sometimes I forget what car I'm in (not the baja), and find out the hard way. LOL The baja is a very balanced car and I love it. The ground clearance is great, but not too high. The suspension is soft, but not too soft. It's a great car, and Subaru should be happy with their achievement...I am!

"The boxer engine (as mentioned above), is part of the anti-roll. It's flat, and therefore balanced out with the weight transfer of the vehicle."
Well said!
The boxer engine gives the BAJA a lower center of gravity and that is the KEY to its balance

Its sure not old grandad's brat.
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