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Old 09-29-2004, 06:24 PM   #1
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Default Any Feedback on a Short Shift Kit for Bajas?

I was contemplating installing a short shift kit for my Baja...

Any suggestions?

I notice Rallitek has 2 models (around $100-$120USD) and Subaru SPt offers one as well (around $225USD)...

Anyone have any experience with any of these models? Other options I should contemplate?

How much trouble is the installation? Is this a all "up-top" swap or do you need to get under the car? Any thing sketchy like dropping the transaxle or crossmembers?

Thanks for any input...
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Old 09-29-2004, 06:53 PM   #2
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I installed the TVM shifter that Rallitek sells. I found it too short for my liking. I installed it and took it out almost immediately--it's destined for eBay now. The install is easy. You have to take of the plastic that surrounds the shifter, pop the stock one out and pop the new one in. It's really that simple. No need to get under the car. It takes a bit of leverage to get the shifter out and you will probably need to use a block of wood and a hammer to pop it in. The end has a ball on it and it fits into a socket (think of the ball and socket in your hip and you have the right idea). Full install details are at www.scoobymods.com.
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Old 09-30-2004, 02:16 PM   #3
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Thanks for the input...

I might try the AVO model and see how it feels... I'd like a little less throw, but I am not driving a Miata!

I'll report back to tell y'all if it works well or not... probably order it today online...
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:59 PM   #4
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By the way, Cobb Tuning sells an adjustable one...
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Old 09-30-2004, 09:02 PM   #5
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I heard the STI or WRX short shift linkage will work on Baja. Can someone confirm this?

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Old 10-03-2004, 09:52 AM   #6
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i installed the Kartboy WRX shortshifter in my baja and I love it....the install was easy only needed to grind about an inch off the arm where the bolt enters. Very easy task if you have an air compressor and a hand held grinder.
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Old 10-07-2004, 02:26 PM   #7
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I installed the AVO short shift kit today... Nicely made, good welds... wished they included some firmer bushings, but otherwise it feels like a good part...

There were no instructions, but the install went OK... the hardest part is getting the shifter's ball to pop out the ball socket (and popping the new one back in)... the amusing thing is the factory shifter could be used a structural element on the Space Shuttle... that thing is a tank! I think the tube steel used on it is thicker than the jack...

Once installed, the new shifter is about 20% shorter and the throws are about 30% shorter... Shifts are much crisper and quicker... It's a pretty amazing difference... the new shifter seems more "matched" to the throttle and clutch response and I feel like my shifts are more accurate and better timed... (of course, this might be all placebo-effect and I am full of BS )

The AVO shifter sort of feels like the throw of my friend's A6... but a little crisper (I think the A6 is a cable shifter anyways)... but not too short (like a Miata)...

Anyways, for around $100-$120, it's a great upgrade...
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Old 10-08-2004, 08:52 AM   #8
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Replace the bushiing while you're at it. I noticed a significant difference when I did. You want the same size bushings as the WRX, not the STI.
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Old 10-08-2004, 02:13 PM   #9
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Thanks... I'll order a set... Cobb Tuning sells firmer bushing ala cart too... http://cobbtuning.com/baja/drivetrain1.html#bushing ...

I'm also waiting form my Momo shift knob to appear next! C'mon DHL!
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:44 PM   #10
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Pulling this thread out of the dead... I'm planning on going with the Kartboy w/bushing.


Rozets says easy install with grinder/compressor, which I have neither of..

Anyone have long term feedback and care to share with the group?

Thanks,
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Old 07-12-2006, 09:48 AM   #11
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i installed my kartboy short throw about 6 months ago. i did NOT, however, install the kartboy bushings, as i find the factory ones to be notchy enough for me. the kartboy ones are too stiff IMO.

installation was as simple as removing the screws around the shifter base and using a rubber mallet to whack the shifter into the socket-style housing. it feels great. shifts are clean and crisp.
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Old 07-12-2006, 12:43 PM   #12
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Thanks Waffles....what about grease? Did you have to regrease that housing/socket?
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Old 07-12-2006, 01:45 PM   #13
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i threw a little extra grease in the socket. there's a ton in there already from the factory though.
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Old 07-12-2006, 06:10 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by wikidwrx
I heard the STI or WRX short shift linkage will work on Baja. Can someone confirm this?

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Old 07-14-2006, 12:40 AM   #15
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I got the SPT one about two weeks after I bought the car. Dealer installed it( my wife bought it there.)
BIG difference. Shifts are alot less work. Should have come this way from the factory.
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:30 PM   #16
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I've decided to order...I had hoped to have it today for weekend install but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Reading around it sounds like you really gotta smack it with a heavy rubber mallet to get it to sink in...

I'm expecting simple install....(knocks on wood) we shall see.
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Old 07-22-2006, 12:11 AM   #17
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Instead of smacking with a mallet, if you have a smallish pry bar and block of wood, you can pry the shifter in and out of the socket. I assembled the shifter arm into the yoke and pried against the yoke assembly and shifter arm unit till it popped back in. I have installed, uninstalled, reinstalled and unreinstalled my AVO shift arm in this manner. I seem to go back and forth on using it. I think I might reinstall it (again) this weekend.

If you do whack away (no pun intended), note that there is some 'bounce' in the socket, ball and shifter assembly, so watch where the hammer goes.... (what a sentence)

Also, mind the trim as you pry it off and install the shifter. It's pretty easy to snap the little retain clips or crack the fascia if you miss with the hammer. It is a surprising amount of force to pop that sucker off (and on), so don't worry about over doing it. Well, within reason I suppose. Best of luck on the install...
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Old 07-23-2006, 01:00 PM   #18
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Ditto on the prying technique, I couldn't get mine in with a hammer.
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Old 07-23-2006, 07:09 PM   #19
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Update: Simple install! Looks and feels great! I wish I had done this 2 years ago when I bought the Baja.

Now..how about the kartboy MAF? That should fit no problem right?
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