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Old 09-29-2004, 07:07 PM   #1
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Default Some shavings in the oil filter...

So yesterday I did my oil change on the car... was eager to do it as it has been 6-7k since the oil change.

Now, I dont really run the car hard or anything... most of those miles are highway cruising to work and back.

My current motor mod is only a TXS Stealthback.

When I drained the oil from the filter I noticed something alarming. Now I have to say that I only noticed this because I put the flash light up to it.. but otherwise, Im not so sure i would have noticed it.

There were small, powder like metal shavings running out with the oil(some a little bigger than powder, but not by much). These were all silver in color.

Im a little concerned since the car is taken care of properly (always checking my oil... etc). I only run it hard mostly merging on the freeway, the occasional run here and there and 1 autocross event since I purchased the car at 10k miles. It currently has 21k.

Anyways, should I be worried? Should I just ignore this? Any input is appreciated.
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Old 09-29-2004, 07:12 PM   #2
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i would have no idea what it is without seeing it, but i believe there are places you can take it to have it tested.
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:08 PM   #3
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Did you ever use additives, like Slick50 or stuff with teflon?
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:14 PM   #4
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hell no.. haha, the only additive I believe in is a fresh change with Mobil 1
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:33 PM   #5
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So has anyone got links to some data, evidence, or studies that Slick50 *doesn't* work?

I'm more familiar with it when it was strictly more of an aviation product for small aircraft. Actually know a guy that lost all oil pressure in flight, and was still able to fly an hour further to a safe landing. They tore down the engine and it had no damage. He was a Slick50 user.

Maybe the automotive product is different.

I see people badmouthing it all the time. I'd just be curious to see some information to support that.

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Old 09-29-2004, 10:14 PM   #6
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Old 09-29-2004, 10:27 PM   #7
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While I wouldn't be terribly alarmed, I also wouldn't hesitate to spend a few dollars on an actual oil analysis. Myself & a few customers have had good luck with blackstone labs. Additionally, many large cities have Caterpillar, Cummins, etc. service centers with in-house labs and are sometimes willing to help out.
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Old 09-30-2004, 12:34 AM   #8
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I would have it analyzed, but you are supposed to catch the oil on its way out of the drain hole. So you would really have to do it at the next change. I would go 3k miles and have it looked at if you are scared. They will tell you if you can go longer on the oil, if there are any alarming levels of metal or contaminants, etc.

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Old 09-30-2004, 01:50 AM   #9
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Ive had some powder/flakes in my oil since 20K(50K now) Im pretty sure its a bit of bearing material getting beaten out during detonation, Im sure if I tore my motor down I would be down to the bronze on a couple of spots on the rod bearings

this is an exagerated example, but after heavy use the babbit material will seperate from the bronze substrate.

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Old 09-30-2004, 02:57 AM   #10
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yeah... frankly.. I think it isn't too much to worry after thinking some more...

Its been a bit (13-14k was when it was changed) and the car runs perfectly fine. Another thing is that I only see that it came from the filter and not the oil itself.


Oh yea... about those bearings pictured above... i once took a Civic motor apart because of bearing problems... a bearing was FUSED to a rod.
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Aha! Excellent info Unabomber. Thanks for the links and the education.

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I would cut open the oil filter and examine the element for any metal material.
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Old 09-30-2004, 10:25 AM   #13
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yeah... frankly.. I think it isn't too much to worry after thinking some more...

Its been a bit (13-14k was when it was changed) and the car runs perfectly fine. Another thing is that I only see that it came from the filter and not the oil itself.


Oh yea... about those bearings pictured above... i once took a Civic motor apart because of bearing problems... a bearing was FUSED to a rod.

When my engine blew there was no 3rd rod bearing....it had disappeared into oblivion
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Old 10-01-2004, 12:34 AM   #14
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[quote=jsalicru]So yesterday I did my oil change on the car... was eager to do it as it has been 6-7k since the oil change.

Um, most STi's would be out of oil at that point .
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