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Old 06-20-2001, 03:08 AM   #1
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Just got my Sube back from Santa Cruz Subaru.

Work done:
oil change
coolant flush
checked hoses
checked suspension
new ACT clutch, pressure plate
new 13 pound flywheel
new engine mounts
new tranny mounts

I have to say is this thing pulls a lot harder now. 0-60 probably has dropped and the ride is much more solid. When you turn the car on, the engine and tranny don't roll away from each other now.

The drawback is that the ride does start to get noisy around 70 mph. But it is so worth it.
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Old 06-20-2001, 03:48 AM   #2
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what was total labor for all that?
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Old 06-20-2001, 11:49 AM   #3
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About $700. Sounds like a lot but they had one guy work on the car all day. I also got some discounts. Thunderhill Track Day Discount for Feb 23rd.

I am very very very satisfied with the work. They also seemed to have gotten rid of some rattles and other noises. I am not sure if the mounts helped that or not, but they might have. I couldn't for the life of me find the rattles.

My Sube even sounds more fun now, with the ACT Clutch in there.
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Old 06-20-2001, 01:25 PM   #4
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I'm goin' there this Saturday to have the Subaru oil cooler installed. Carlson Sube didn't want to install it for liability reasons. I know, I know, but I only went to Carlson because they're only 5 minutes from work. Anyway, I thought it was funny that Carlson's service dept. didn't want to install a stock Subaru part on my car. Its the same cooler thats on the Forresters and turbo cars.
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Old 06-20-2001, 02:07 PM   #5
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That's Carlson Subaru for you. They are a good place to buy your car from (I got mine there ) But their Service center sucks. Only better place to buy would be Santa Cruz (get a life time oil change from them when you buy a car there), Plus having the best service center in all of Cali.

Bill, I should be getting my JUN Flywheel today, and Bruce@Santa Cruz has ordered my ACT Clutch. Did it cost you extra for them to put the Engine mounts in??? OR was the cost the same with the clutch/flywheel install? If there was not extra cost, then I may order me a set of mounts, for when they do my car. I could do it myself, but if someone will do it for me for no extra cost then......

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By the way I got the flywheel for $446 (Shipped)
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Old 06-20-2001, 02:52 PM   #6
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Eddy,

The engine mounts were extra, $178 and I figured it was worth while for them to do it. They can look at the rest of the engine while they are there. They did and saw no problems.

The tranny mount they will do for free of course.

You will love the new setup. The shifting is so incredibly solid, just need the shifte bushings. Do you have any Whiteline sway bar links and antilift kit laying around, or can you get them cheap? I need tog et those isntalled. Also do you think the front sway bar upgrade is worth it? What size is stock (19?) and what woudl be the upgrade to (22?)?

Also I have lost a lot of noises I had before I think from installing the mounts.

My flywheel was a quite a bit more then yours, but I liked the quality and the reviews on the Exedy one the most. Can't chimp out when it comes to the engine and tranny.
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Old 06-20-2001, 08:42 PM   #7
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Skywalker,

Randy talked me into the JUN, and I can't complain. I like the price (thou I had a great fight with my wife, when she saw that I paid another $450 on my "stupid" car....I think she's jealous )

I should be getting the work done on the 29th, waiting for the ACT to come in from COBB.......I'll think about getting mounts done then...but I fear a divorce if I do......

My flywheel came in today...but I have not opened the box yet...will do shortly.

Have you noticed any negative characteristics of the lightened flywheel at high engine speeds??? Any loss in power up there? If so I'd imagine the Turbo will take care of that.

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Old 06-20-2001, 09:06 PM   #8
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Flywheel and overall characteristics:

1.) In the lower gears it is awesome, 1ts hell yeah, 2nd hell yeah, 3rd was the biggest surprise. The car before I put the flywheel in felt like at the end of 2nd it was basically dead in the water. Now it feels like I have power through the middle of third.

I even have a great example on the way home form work...
A S4 was right behind me and we came up to a red light, anyway we started talking. He just got his car chipped for an extra 70hp or so. I guess he is pushing around 320 HP. DAMN! Anyway I told him I had 165 stock. He laughed and so did I. LOL

Anyway you know what comes next. Two sporty cars sitting at a red light on Tasman and no cars to be seen. Hmmmmm

Well I had a bad start, because I got the new clutch in there and I don't want to ruin the tranny just yet. So we started equal. Funny thing I pulled away for about a second. Then had to carefully drop it into 2nd. Here he pulled up and past. Then he shifted into 2nd so we were equal again up until about 30. Then he started pullign away I guess at a pretty good clip, but I was still pretty suprised that up to 30 or so we were neck and neck. Damn a Turbo would have been nice, oh yeah.

2.) In the higher gears, I would say only in fifth you don't really feel any difference. But in fourth at 60 I floored it and I was up to 70-75 a little faster than usual. So I think the flywheel in all is a great upgrade.

3.) As for just letting off the clutch out of gear, the revs will drop a lot faster.

4.) As for letting off the clutch in gear it will also slow the car down a little faster.

All in all a great great great upgrade!!! Besides the STi seats I would say this is the best mod I have so far.

Oh, forgot to mention the car will handle better a little. Everything is more tied together and feels more like a race car. And the sound, I can't get enough of it. Hearing the clutch and flywheel goign are so sweet.

Hope that helps...

Oh i am positive 0-60 times will drop too. How much who knows, but if I can notice that much of a change, then it must be pretty decent. Shifting is my only concern now. Can't destroy the tranny, that would be bad.
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Old 06-20-2001, 09:11 PM   #9
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damn you!! i am so jealous now!

ok tell me where i can get this lighten flywheel?

i need to replace my stock clutch soon too!

MMmMMMm i can hardly wait!!!

thanks for the flywheel/clutch info, skywalker

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Old 06-20-2001, 09:32 PM   #10
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Check out Sport Compact Car Magazine, Volume 13, No. 4, which is April 2001. It has some more info on the clutch and flywheel stuff along making "the indestructible tranny."

Anyway the flywheel iI have is 13pds, and the only place I know that sells the Exedy Flywheel is

www.subysports.com

At one time they were having a deal ACT and Flywheel combo deal.

It might be a little bit expensive, but from the ratings Shiv gave it I would have to agree. I am glad I paid the little bit extra for it.
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Old 06-20-2001, 09:59 PM   #11
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I can't wait and see how much better the car will pull. Last Saturday.....I tested my car and it did a 8.5 sec (0-to-60mph) (Only mods are iSR Intake and Custom 2.25" Magnaflow Cat-Back Exaust, well and full suspension work and Redline fluids all around). Don't know if this is a good time for our RS's (as the WRX will do a 4.8). Oh.........and I was being VERY careful with the launch...did'nt want to do anything to second gear.

Does anyone know what a stock RS will do. I'm sure that my launch skills are in bad need of improvement.

Bill, sorry......sold my last set of endlinks and ALK to Randy...it's on his wagon as we speak. The only thing left is the Rear Swaybar Mount kit. I will ask my source what deal he can provide me.....no gauruntee thou.

I have the 22-24 adjust. Front Swaybar....but it will not fit US spec RS (Headers get in the way). If I go the Legacy turbo way it will fit, as well as the front lower strut brace I have......but I want to keep the stock headers....or get a set from JUN or other maker (not Borla). DO not want to spend TOO much money. Well unless I win tonights lottery (Mmmmmmm 85 mil would go a long way to make the best Suby ever.)

I just got a good look at my JUN Flywheel, and am very relieved to see that it is a one piece design, not milled with holes to make it lighter. This way I know that it will take some pearty wild abbuse and stay intact. Now as for that Tranny...........when it breaks, and "when" not if, I will replace it with a dog-box, or the STi 6-speed.

I can't wait to see what the car can do!!!

After this.....IT'S TURBO TIME!!!

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Old 06-20-2001, 10:06 PM   #12
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I think the JUN Flywheel I have weighs at about 12.8 lbs. I know it's right around the rest. Not too light, nor too heavy.

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Old 06-20-2001, 10:08 PM   #13
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OT....but did everyone notice that their Member # went down. I was # 1500, now I'm 12## something. Weird.

Sorry for the post



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Old 06-20-2001, 11:27 PM   #14
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They are deleting off all duplicate accounts. Must have been a butt load of them.
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Old 06-21-2001, 09:28 AM   #15
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do they have decent parts prices? I am thinking of getting the turbo gauge pack installed Or should I get it from Subaru parts.com and have them install it? Or I can make it over in the next install fest

Input guys and gals?

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Old 06-21-2001, 10:40 AM   #16
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Prices are about average at Santa Cruz. You probably would get a better deal with SubaruParts.com. Subaru SC has a great service department, but you pay for what you get.

I'm sure that there would be someone that could help you with installation of the guage at an installfest. Talk to Ravent to see when he could host another one....or if someone else will host it this time.

Either way is good. Personally I like to do all that I can. Replacing clutch/flywheel is another matter............for now that is.

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