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Old 10-02-2004, 06:05 PM   #1
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I am curious (SP?) as to who has these and what they thought of them are they worth the $400 or should I save my cash and go with a set of COBB cams? I am also wondering what kind of games could be expected with my setup.
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Random Tech High flow Cat.

Would I need to add parts to make this setup work right are there things like valve springs and retainers that would be a must for me to run that cam? I have done some research but every thread I have read seems to have died out before they have gotten to the info I was realy hoping for.
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Old 10-03-2004, 05:11 PM   #2
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you'll need the springs and retainers. i have the complete stage II package, the porting and all that jazz. it made a pretty good difference, but i dont know about $2800 difference! careful with what t.w.e. tells you though. i do get a cel with the cams. i get misfire codes sometimes in the morning while the car is cold and i was told i would not.

i would just talk to as many people as you can with both cams, cobb and t.w.e., and get as much feedback as possible. do your research. i am happy with them, but if i had to do it again i would not. it was quite a headache trying to figure out why the car was "supposedly" misfiring. i spent quite a bit of money to try and fix a problem i did not have.

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Old 10-03-2004, 05:56 PM   #3
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Thanks Darioc,

How much of a difference do you think they make torq wise? why do you have to use the springs and retainers? The stock ones can't take the lift or duration? I am a newbie when it comes to cams. Please explain it to me if you can.
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Old 10-03-2004, 06:12 PM   #4
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the cams lift the valves faster and further but retain almost a stock duration. the springs are thinner so they do not bind. they defintely shift the power band up in the rpm range. they pulled pretty good. you should go catless too. i dont know how much more it will flow without the random tech but i went from cats to no cats and it was a good gain.
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Old 10-03-2004, 06:28 PM   #5
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Darioc,

Thanks again for the fast reply I have searched and searched but have not found much, if any, useable information so you are a god send. Will the valve train bind if I try to run these cams with a stock valvetrain or is it only an issue at high RPM's the reason I ask is I may not be able to afford both at the same time. I am wondering if I should risk it with the stock valve train or just keep the cams in storage untill i can afford the valvetrain upgrade and do them both at the same time.

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Old 10-03-2004, 06:32 PM   #6
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you need to get them at the same time. you will also save on labor costs because you will be doing them together. i have heard of valve springs breaking so i would do them together definitely!
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Old 10-03-2004, 06:35 PM   #7
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Again much thanks Darioc,

I guess I will look at COBB cams to but thank you for opening my eyes I am going to try and save up the extra for the valve spring kit so that I can just buy both at the same time.
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Old 10-04-2004, 01:56 AM   #8
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darioc - Weird that you're getting a CEL sometimes with the heads. I know a couple of different guys with the same stage 2 heads as you without any problems. Are you sure it's not something else on your ride that's causing the problems? If there is a inherit problem with the cams/heads you'd get a misfire code all the time, not just on start up and when its cold. It definately sounds like something else.

Akarui - Yeah getting upgraded valvetrain will definately be a good idea especially when you get an increase in lift. It will also let you have the option of bumping up the redline later on. As for the Cobb cams, IIRC they're made by Web Cams. There have been some cases of cams that were welded and re-ground breaking apart due to the way the welding process weakens the material.
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Old 10-04-2004, 10:14 AM   #9
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its the heads and cam! it happened right after i put them in.
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