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Old 10-20-2004, 11:05 PM   #26
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I am interested in a big brake kit like AEMS that uses better materials than AEM uses. Why not push the calipers out, use better than OEM quality rotors in a slightly larger size with the same caliper. Then you have a caliper that fits the stock set up and a caliper that fits you big brake setup. You could offer an upgrade to the larger rotor setup and call them stage 1 & 2. It would also allow people to go back to OEM size rotor for winter wheels. Just a thought. I would buy it.
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:38 AM   #27
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Having a larger rotor isn't allways better. More unsprung weight and more mass to stop. Keeping with the stock rotor size also gives more rotor choices. The Racingbrake rotors are far better than stock but there is the option of retaining the stock.

Since WRX stock rims that will fit this setup, having a extra set of winter tires you can swap without having to change the brakes is much eaiser.
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Old 10-21-2004, 05:51 AM   #28
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I am interested in a big brake kit like AEMS that uses better materials than AEM uses. Why not push the calipers out, use better than OEM quality rotors in a slightly larger size with the same caliper. Then you have a caliper that fits the stock set up and a caliper that fits you big brake setup. You could offer an upgrade to the larger rotor setup and call them stage 1 & 2. It would also allow people to go back to OEM size rotor for winter wheels. Just a thought. I would buy it.
Using the OEM calipers and just pushing them further out puts more stress and more flex on the already stretched out brackets. It would not help any as far as braking to do that.

These 4-pot calipers may get alternate brackets and larger 2-piece rotors once testing is completed. As for now they'll be offered with both the Street-Slotted, Street Drilled, and Racing Rotor setups.

-mike
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Old 10-21-2004, 05:52 AM   #29
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are these a closed system (subaru 4-pot) or open system (like Perrin you have to rebuilt every year). Do you know what I'm talking about.
I'll check on this, but I believe they are a closed system, no yearly rebuilding is necessary.

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Old 10-21-2004, 10:12 PM   #30
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Using the OEM calipers and just pushing them further out puts more stress and more flex on the already stretched out brackets. It would not help any as far as braking to do that.

These 4-pot calipers may get alternate brackets and larger 2-piece rotors once testing is completed. As for now they'll be offered with both the Street-Slotted, Street Drilled, and Racing Rotor setups.

-mike
I didn't mean use the stock caliper, push out the new caliper. I could use the same caliper for both winter oem size and summer big brake.

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Old 10-21-2004, 11:37 PM   #31
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id more than likely be interested in a spring product. How would you say they stand up to just daily commuting?
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Old 10-22-2004, 04:24 AM   #32
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So far so good, I've put on over 2000 street miles since I installed them and no issues yet.

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Old 10-22-2004, 09:33 AM   #33
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Can we get a picture of these ?
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Old 10-23-2004, 04:08 AM   #34
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UPDATE: Ok I spent about 4hrs. up at racing brake yesterday doing squeel testing. We pulled off the pads and tried various shims and pads etc. The squeel is down to a bare min. with the HP+ pads still a little squeely but not out of the normal for HP+ pads. Very happy so far with them 2000 street miles and about 100 track miles on them w/o issue. Will keep you updated as testing continues.

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Old 10-23-2004, 04:09 AM   #35
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Can we get a picture of these ?
Yup I have some in my camera from when we put em on showing RS Rim and WRX Rim clearance etc. I'll try to get em posted tomorrow at some point.

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Old 10-23-2004, 04:11 AM   #36
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I didn't mean use the stock caliper, push out the new caliper. I could use the same caliper for both winter oem size and summer big brake.
It's in the works, once we finish testing the setup, we are going to be getting some 2-piece larger rotors and pushing the 4-pot calipers out slightly. I also think you guys will be very happy with the pricing if they hold it to the #s that we've been talking about

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Old 10-24-2004, 06:27 PM   #37
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They look great! Can't wait to snag a pair when they come out!!
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Old 10-25-2004, 10:07 PM   #38
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If I end up getting into a college where I can bring a car (highly possible), I'll probably get this done during the spring. Let me know if it's available, when it's available. Thanks.
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They look great! Can't wait to snag a pair when they come out!!
Can i see a picture ???
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Old 10-26-2004, 01:28 AM   #40
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He came down and saw them live. I'll try and get a pic up this weekend of the prototype calipers. I have to bring the cam down for testing of another Racingbrake product so I'll see if I can take a few snaps of the 4 pots.

It may or may not be the final product you recive but I'll take a few teasers.
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Old 10-26-2004, 01:18 PM   #41
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Pics are up in the "shop/installs" section of the webpage.

http://AZPInstalls.com

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Old 10-26-2004, 05:15 PM   #42
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<Paris hilton voice> That's Hawt</Paris Hilton voice>

Saw the pics and I am very impressed with the build quality (at least what the pics show)

So what is the future plan with these calipers. Can you comment on their feel compared to the 2 Pots? Basically, I am trying to convince myself I dont need stoptechs and I need this.

Eitherway, I am a patient person and since I am not going to be doing lime rock this year again, I am waiting till spring time. Looking forward to more results.
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Old 10-26-2004, 05:46 PM   #43
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Will keep you posted. I've heard talk over at RB that we may get 1" larger 2-piece rotors to go with them as well But it's still in development right now

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Wow very nice looking caliper. looks to be well designed, and an enclosed system. Yeah !!!! I'm already drooling.

Is that 6061T6 Aluminum you're using?
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Old 10-27-2004, 08:51 AM   #45
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Will keep you posted. I've heard talk over at RB that we may get 1" larger 2-piece rotors to go with them as well But it's still in development right now

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Sweet! If you need any other test vehicles, I will be more than happy to offer my car just make mine black. I'll make sure they get abused
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:57 PM   #46
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What's with the red smudge on them? Is it going to say SUBARU on the version that we recieve?
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Old 10-28-2004, 11:02 PM   #47
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What's with the red smudge on them? Is it going to say SUBARU on the version that we recieve?
They will say RACING BRAKE on them most likely Red Calipers with White Lettering and/or Black Calipers with White Lettering.

The Smudge is cause they are pre-production test models so we had to blur out the markings Just like when you see a test-model car with those crazy bras and tape over them

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Old 11-02-2004, 11:13 PM   #48
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nice product mike, my pads are suffering dearly right now, maybe when im home during christmas break, ill take a trip up to your shop for some calipers, pads, and rear pads as well

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Old 11-09-2004, 12:37 AM   #49
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I'm very interested in these and can't wait till they're on the market.
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Old 11-09-2004, 10:12 AM   #50
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I ran the Legacy at LRP on monday. The brakes are wonderful. The pedal was allways there no matter how hot I came into a corner.
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