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Old 11-09-2004, 11:35 AM   #51
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Saw em @ LRP. They look good. How would do they compare in relation with Sube 4pots? Any upside to these calipers aside from the weight?
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Old 11-09-2004, 11:46 AM   #52
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Weight, fittment under OEM WRX wheels, slightly better performance IMHO, however there is no definitive data to "prove" they are any better performance-wise than the subaru-4-pot calipers.

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Old 11-09-2004, 12:28 PM   #53
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The fact that they fit under WRX wheels is a good enough reason.
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Old 11-09-2004, 03:35 PM   #54
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I too felt they were a bit better than the scoobie 4 pots but I won't say they are till we do some more testing.
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Old 11-09-2004, 04:02 PM   #55
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Oh and the other good thing is they don't come bundled with the Subaru Pads only. They will be available either as part of a kit, or stand alone or bundled with Hawk HPS/HP+/Hawk Blue Pads. There will also be an "alternate" bracket sold for them to clear the upcoming 2-piece 320mm rotors that RB will be offering. So you could upgrade in stages.

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Old 11-11-2004, 02:09 AM   #56
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Oh and the other good thing is they don't come bundled with the Subaru Pads only. They will be available either as part of a kit, or stand alone or bundled with Hawk HPS/HP+/Hawk Blue Pads. There will also be an "alternate" bracket sold for them to clear the upcoming 2-piece 320mm rotors that RB will be offering. So you could upgrade in stages.

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That's what I'm talking about baby.
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Old 11-11-2004, 02:13 AM   #57
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By the way what springs are those on the AGX install? Prodrive? Daddy want the brakes, daddy like.
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Old 11-11-2004, 05:39 AM   #58
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Actually they are Koni Inserts with H&R Springs on them.

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Old 11-11-2004, 03:31 PM   #59
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I looked again, those are AGX, I have the same ones. The springs are blue with red strut bodies. Are we looking at the same pictures? See the 4 way adjustment at the top of the front strut, it is an AGX. You are looking at the legacy. I was looking at the 02 WRX.
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I looked again, those are AGX, I have the same ones. The springs are blue with red strut bodies. Are we looking at the same pictures? See the 4 way adjustment at the top of the front strut, it is an AGX.
I think you were looking in the "AGX + Prodrive Spring Install" section.

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Old 11-13-2004, 01:12 PM   #62
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Oh and the other good thing is they don't come bundled with the Subaru Pads only. They will be available either as part of a kit, or stand alone or bundled with Hawk HPS/HP+/Hawk Blue Pads. There will also be an "alternate" bracket sold for them to clear the upcoming 2-piece 320mm rotors that RB will be offering. So you could upgrade in stages.

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Are these going to be priced less than Stoptechs? Meaningthe whole kit with the 320mm rotor. I bought Subaru 4pots to hold me over until I have a need to upgrade again (mhh... larger rotors!)

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Old 11-13-2004, 01:39 PM   #63
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Not sure of price yet, but my guess would be that they'll be less than the stoptechs. How much is the stoptech kit going for these days?

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Best I've seen is about $1795 for the front kit
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Old 11-13-2004, 07:05 PM   #65
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I think it will be significantly less expensive than that.

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I'm also very inerested... if the price is right...
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Old 11-16-2004, 06:19 AM   #67
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I will have "Introductory" pricing this week. We'll be shipping these out hopefully before christmas, if not the first few weeks of January. Look for Holiday/Introductory pricing on these and other packages!

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Link to order page/details? TIA
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Old 11-29-2004, 01:20 PM   #69
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Bump for update plus a few questions:

1. What is the piston diameter and how does it compare to the Subaru 4-pots?

2. Would the Subaru 4-pot rebuild kits also work for these 4-pots?

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The pistons are slightly smaller than the Subaru 4-piston calipers, however it uses the same pads. The re-build kit for the subaru 4-piston ones won't work on these unit.

As for comparison, the advantages that are measureable:
1) Fits under OEM Subaru 16x6.5" rims
2) Weights almost 50% less than the subaru 4-pots (Subaru 4-pot loaded = 11lbs, RacingBrake 4-pot loaded = 6lbs)

"Unmeasurable" (and I say it that way since there are no #s I can give to prove any of this) advantages:
Increased pedal feel over the Subaru 4-pot
Significantly more confidence in the stopping ability given the same exact setup on the car.
Shorter stopping distances. An example is when I took this car to limerock with the subaru 4-piston calipers I had to brake between the 200 and 300 meter/feet marker in order to make the turn into big bend. When I returned later in the season with the RacingBrake calipers and more-worn tires I was braking between the 0 and 150 foot markers and achieving the same turn-in to big bend but braking later.

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Thanks Mike.

Paisan - Any word on the "Introductory" pricing?
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Nothing yet, hopefully by the end of the week we'll have intro pricing, they will ship in January.

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Missing xmas is a mistake. My wife was going to buy me a set.
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They weren't due out until spring, earliest RB can get em here is January. Have her buy you them anyway and put a picture of it under the tree, what on earth would you be using 4-pot calipers for in the winter anyway? First track day in the area is Feb at VIR.

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Just finished fitting the Legacy with a prototype of the Racing Brake 4-pot Calipers for the Subies. Very impressive units so far. Haven't tested as far as performance etc but so far here's what we've found:

Aluminum Calipers
Weight: ~6lbs v. 11lbs for Subaru 4-pots
Wheel Fitment: 16x6.5" OEM Subaru WRX Rims fit w/o Issue
Pads: OEM Subaru WRX/300ZX 4-pot Pads (Readily Available)
Price Range: ~$575-$600 with Speed Bleeders and HP+ Pads

Wanted to see what kind of interest there is in them. They'll be Gold or Red, most likely Red. Let me know what kind of interest so I can get on Racing Brake to get these units produced and over here.

Thanks.

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hmm...I think I would probably be in for a set as well in red. PS, do you have a pic or drawing of what they might look like? If they look like the subaru 4 pots AND fit under my OEM 16X6.5 stockers, then I'm sold.
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