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Old 10-11-2004, 02:34 PM   #1
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Default Please post here if you hate the next-gen Impreza design

Though the title is somewhat awkwardly worded, the point is clear. I have not posted about this yet but I have been very vocal about this in my own social circles. The leaked images of the new impreza design are HORRIBLE. In a time of truely forgettable vehicle design, I beg, no I plead with you, Subaru, not to contribute to this growing tendancy within the Automotive market. The GC8 design was legendary, beautiful, simply functional. It met its time but its silhouette will never be forgotten. The bug eye, from a design stand point had the potential but fell due to its lack of public approval. The new-new age GDB-E though retaining some of the better points of the GDB, there are still some questionable styling points in the front end... still nothing legendary. In all reality you don't need to revolutionize your approach or style in order to create something memorable or even stylish... The best looking cars were soo logically beautiful... and consistant. Please give the GC8 another look, give your current design another look and please realize that you may be straying too far from your lineage.

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Old 10-11-2004, 02:43 PM   #2
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The idea that any Subaru, new or old, was some kind of beautiful classic design, is a real thigh slapper....just give me 250 hp, all-wheel drive, a decent transmission, good handling and good seats in a lightweight compact 4 door package at a reasonable price and I'll be a happy camper. If the new Impreza looks ok on top of that, it's a bonus.
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Old 10-11-2004, 02:50 PM   #3
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The statement wasn't that the GC8 wasn't a "beautiful" classic design, but it is classic in the sense of the automotive world... it is the car which changed views, it is the car that wowed the public, much like the old porsches did. Porsche until recently has never been a truely beautiful car, but it lineage has remained intact to preserve the original design. That is all I'm asking Subaru to do.

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Old 10-11-2004, 02:51 PM   #4
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Also post here if you want to rant about a video game car that doesn't actually (and probably will never) exist.
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Old 10-11-2004, 02:54 PM   #5
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The idea that any Subaru, new or old, was some kind of beautiful classic design, is a real thigh slapper....just give me 250 hp, all-wheel drive, a decent transmission, good handling and good seats in a lightweight compact 4 door package at a reasonable price and I'll be a happy camper. If the new Impreza looks ok on top of that, it's a bonus.
Here here!!! I did not buy my bug-eyed WRX because of its looks but what it could do. It eventually grew on me of course and as they said in the first test drives....when you are driving it, you don't see the exterior of the car.

We can't stay with the GC8 look forever. But I must say the new "Alfa" has some raw-ness that is not that bad.
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Old 10-11-2004, 03:03 PM   #6
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Here here!!! I did not buy my bug-eyed WRX because of its looks but what it could do.
Agreed. That's why I bought the wagon version. BTW, it's "hear, hear."
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Old 10-11-2004, 03:07 PM   #7
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I will stay with my GC8 look forever.
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Old 10-11-2004, 03:18 PM   #8
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Agreed. That's why I bought the wagon version. BTW, it's "hear, hear."

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Old 10-11-2004, 03:26 PM   #9
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that roofscoop sure does look nice!
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Old 10-11-2004, 03:30 PM   #10
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Jon - I've seen various pictures from publications, posts and otherwise hinting at this design. Look at the previous images before the bug-eye came out, they were fairly indicative of what was to come. Additionally look at the spy pictures of the 7-seater. It seems to be adopting the split headlight and bulbous design that the images of the future impreza have, so I don't think I'm too far off base here.

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Old 10-11-2004, 03:34 PM   #11
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Jon - I've seen various pictures from publications, posts and otherwise hinting at this design. Look at the previous images before the bug-eye came out, they were fairly indicative of what was to come. Additionally look at the spy pictures of the 7-seater. It seems to be adopting the split headlight and bulbous design that the images of the future impreza have, so I don't think I'm too far off base here.

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Why not get worked up about this equally imaginary car which appears in the same video game.
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Old 10-11-2004, 03:36 PM   #12
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The GC8 can not really be considered a "beautiful" car. Look at it:



It's pretty much a normal, boring (yet not ugly) economy car.

Of course, gussy it up with spoilers, scoops, big wheels and skirts, and you have a killer looking car:



But, this can be said about any car...add enough tasteful "add-ons" to it and it'll look cool. But the core design is just boring.

I guess that's why they tried so hard with the GDB, to make a truly unique and different car. Too bad it came out ugly.

I'm still a fan of the GC8 and hope they make another simple, yet aggressive looking Impreza in the future.
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Old 10-11-2004, 03:40 PM   #13
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can critique a design that has not shown its face yet is beyond me....

Okay, so you seen drawings and concept cars. Big deal! That's not what the new Impreza will look like. It may be "similar," or have "styling cues" from what you've seen, but believe me, there's a HUGE difference between drawings and concept mockups, and the actual production vehicle.

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Old 10-11-2004, 03:42 PM   #14
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can critique a design that has not shown its face yet is beyond me....

Okay, so you seen drawings and concept cars. Big deal! That's not what the new Impreza will look like. It may be "similar," or have "styling cues" from what you've seen, but believe me, there's a HUGE difference between drawings and concept mockups, and the actual production vehicle.

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Amen.

besides .... i love the concept shown on the first post !

this looks awesome:
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Old 10-11-2004, 03:45 PM   #15
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rsholland - its a commentary on their design direction. If people had read my statements carefully rather than just immediatly post I stated that Subaru needs to look at their history in the GC8 and look at their design direction (ie; current concept designs) and I quote (myself), "please realize that you may be straying too far from your lineage."

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Old 10-11-2004, 03:45 PM   #16
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I love my GC as much as the next guy, but honestly, the new cars are better-looking in a lot of respects.

And you know what? The '06+ cars will be better than THOSE. Everyone whines about new designs when they're in the works... People don't like change, it's in our nature.

But it "grows on" you. You adapt and realize that, eventually.

I don't think there was a single "logically beautiful" thing about the GC. It's a car that evolved from a cost-cutting family sedan, not a car that was designed from the ground up, to be what it became. Scoops and things had to be added for functionality and appearance, but.......... the Impreza wasn't initially intended to be a performance car.

Now, though, it is. So I say start from scratch! Hopefully this new WRC mumbo-jumbo won't kill the boxer engine entirely, but I'd like to see the loss of the strut suspension at the very least. And maybe, just maybe, some actually decent seats.

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I think starting over is a mistake... the Impreza has a lack of styling definition and thats part of its problem. The Legacy and Forester both have long standing evolving designs and that is part of the draw to them, but the impreza especially with the whole bug-eye debacle, is starting to lose its identity. To pursue this design concept would to stray farther away from any sort of identitiy the line had to begin with.

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rsholland - its a commentary on their design direction. If people had read my statements carefully rather than just immediatly post I stated that Subaru needs to look at their history in the GC8 and look at their design direction (ie; current concept designs) and I quote (myself), "please realize that you may be straying too far from your lineage."

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Okay, be my guest. I can buy that, even if it's an exercise in futility. I mean what do you expect the outcome of all your "venting" to be? Do you honestly expect Subaru to return to an old dated design? Give me a break...

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rsholland - Subaru over the last few years has turned to the community as a source of feedback on its design and direction. The Legacy is an excellent example of their efforts in this. The purpose of my venting is to get my opinion out there and to rally the people that support my viewpoint. Do I expect to exact an immediate and obvious change in Subaru's design direction, no, but maybe I will confirm some opinions/views within those within the company that read this.

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I think starting over is a mistake... the Impreza has a lack of styling definition and thats part of its problem. The Legacy and Forester both have long standing evolving designs and that is part of the draw to them, but the impreza especially with the whole bug-eye debacle, is starting to lose its identity. To pursue this design concept would to stray farther away from any sort of identitiy the line had to begin with.

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What identity? You can take any Subaru and swap grille logos with Kia, Hyundai, and a few others, and the front end current styling would work equally well for those brands too.

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... give your current design another look and please realize that you may be straying too far from your lineage.
This is Subaru's heritage:

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Old 10-11-2004, 04:03 PM   #22
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Jon - you are an intelligent person, and I know this from discussions with you and from your informative posts. I thereby can assume that you can draw certain lines of logic btwn what I'm saying and what I mean. I'm sure you can understand when I suggest that subaru is straying too far from its lineage, I'm suggesting within the Impreza line. Why you insist on berate the subject with such posts as the one above, I guess I just don't understand, but it seems quite unlike you.

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rsholland - Subaru over the last few years has turned to the community as a source of feedback on its design and direction. The Legacy is an excellent example of their efforts in this. The purpose of my venting is to get my opinion out there and to rally the people that support my viewpoint. Do I expect to exact an immediate and obvious change in Subaru's design direction, no, but maybe I will confirm some opinions/views within those within the company that read this.

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Guess what? The Legacy will eventually wear this new look too.

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How long standing can these design evolutions be when the Legacy came out in 1990 and the Forester came out in 1998? Hell, there wasn't even an Impreza until 1993.

While I agree that they should have kept working with the GC styling cues (beyond foglights and hoodscoop) I think its kind of silly that you would suggest that people are drawn to Subaru for some kind of styling heritage. People buy Subaru because they want a well engineered, AWD, affordable, fun car. All 4 Subaru's Ive owned have fit that description and I doubt that Subaru is going to ditch that heritage any time soon.
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I can honestly say I like the way Subarus look. Compared to everything else within their respective price range, I don't like almost anything else.

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