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Old 06-22-2001, 01:43 AM   #1
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Question Ok, to beat a dead horse one more time.........

Ok people. I have an early 99 RS (built Dec. 1998) and my RE92's are looking a bit worn. I just turned 31,000 miles.

Here is my question. Yes, yes I know, this question has been asked at least 624 times. I need new tires. I am keeping my stock Subaru 16 inch x 7.5 inch rims. I have KYB/AGX struts with Eibach springs (lowers car about an inch)

Ok, now for the QUESTION!

what is the most bang for the buck tire out there that will fit my 99 RS, on stock rims, that won't rub??????

Nitto?
Khumo?
Yoko's
Bridgestones?
Firestones? (yeah, right)
Sumitomo HTR Z II?


What is the grippiest tire for the least amount of money?

What is the maximum size I can go that won't rub AND keep my speedo about the same?

Please, If you are just guessing, or going to tell me that your friend's uncle's brother uses this or that, I don't want to hear it.
Please only actual experience responses from RS owners.

The Sumitomo HTR Z II is looking pretty sweet right now and they are on sale at tirerack.com for $89.00 a piece (205-50ZR-16).

Thanks in advance.....

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Old 06-22-2001, 01:52 AM   #2
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ARG,

I have tried may tires over the years and on many different cars. So far, the best tires I have ever used to date are the S02 pole positions from Bridgestone. They are like glue. Excellent tire. Unfortanalty they are not so cheap. Also you may want to remember not only does a sticky tire help handling but it make the brakes work better.

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Old 06-22-2001, 01:54 AM   #3
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I would recomend these:
1. Bridgestone potenza re730 (205/50-16 or 205/55-16)
2. Kumho 712 (same sizes as above)

The kumho is a bit cheaper but also has worse wet/dry grip
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Old 06-22-2001, 01:54 AM   #4
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kuhmo

and maybe falken
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Old 06-22-2001, 01:56 AM   #5
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I have driven on the so2's also and they have a tad more dry grip than the re730, wet grip is worse. They also last about 1/3 as long as the re730, and they cost amost double what the re730. In my book i dont think its really worth the price
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Old 06-22-2001, 03:24 AM   #6
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Now that the church of RE730 is closed, get the S02PPs that are on sale at TireRack (or were). They have dramatically better wet weather traction than the 730. I live in serious downpour country, and have driven extensively on both. When the price difference was greater, you could make an argument, but now, the 730 is showing its age.
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Old 06-22-2001, 04:17 AM   #7
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Have you actually driven on both of these tires?
I would not say the SO2 is drastically better in the wet.
I forgot about the sale on the SO2's, that might be something to look into then, but they only last about 15k
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Old 06-22-2001, 04:51 AM   #8
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I've used BF Goodrich g-force KDWS tires AA traction A temp and 400 wear rating... It cuts through rain, and lasts for ever. Plus I got them from costco for 100 each 205/55 zr16 so no speedo problems... They have pretty strong sidewalls too and pretty good grip...
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Old 06-22-2001, 09:25 AM   #9
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ARG,

I'll have to second Paul's opinion on the S02 Pole Positions. The main drawbacks, price and life. One is high, the other is low.

I'm on my second set of Sumitomo HTR Z IIs. They are an good tire for the price. The last set performed well for about 20.000 miles before needing replacement. I was pleased enough with the tire to buy another set. I found their wet weather abilities to be good. I even autocrossed on them twice in the rain.

If you are looking for something in their price range, I don't think you will be disappointed.

The size you are looking at (205/50/16) will alter the speedo a little. I doubt it will bother you too much though.

At the moment my tires are almost brand new. As such they do exhibit some tread squirm and noise when pushed hard. When they break, they do so in a very predictable manner. The limits of these tires are substantially higher then stock and they will give you a fairly long life-span for a Z rated tire.

In this price range, I would also consider the Kumho.

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Old 06-22-2001, 12:20 PM   #10
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If you don't have hundreds to spend on S02s, look at the Kumhos, Bridgestone RE730s or RE71s. The 71s are the previous generation of tires before the 730s came along and TireRack has them for about the same price as the Kumhos in our size. I got a set last week to try out (they worked out to be a hundred or so less than the 730s) and so far am happy, though I haven't had any wet driving experiences to date. They certainly feel better than the 92s going around all the 270 degree 20 MPH on and off ramps around Peoria.
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Old 06-22-2001, 12:30 PM   #11
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you mean to tell me after all you've done with your RSS you still had RE92s?

any of the tires being suggested will work, and I'm a bit surprised that $400-700 for good tires has waited this long.
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Old 06-22-2001, 12:49 PM   #12
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i have burned a set of yoko avs intermediates,dunlop sp8000,and just finishing a set of re730s.all were 205/55zr16 all were used past the ware bars all were used on my 992.5rs and none lasted longer than 12000 miles.the bridgestones were the best of the 3 and were about $100 each after 4000 miles they got a little noisy at 1/2 tread still worked well in the rain didnt minde the dirt and never suprised me like the yokos and dunlops did. ill be using 730s on my wrx before the thing leaves the dealer on monday for its first jurney under my evil rule muaaahahahaha
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Old 06-22-2001, 05:27 PM   #13
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toyo FZ4 or T1-S
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Old 06-22-2001, 05:32 PM   #14
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Default William: Where do you get RE730s for $100!?

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Old 06-22-2001, 06:44 PM   #15
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ThinkTank i gotum at tire rack and that was NOT a special . i havent looked lately (i have a new set+a set of continental ssport contacts under my bed) if they have increased in price since i bought mine its because we drove the price up by buying so many of them for our scoobs.

just checked tire rack re730 205/55zr16 $110 so its $40 more than i said,that means you have to cook your dinner and brown bag your lunch for two days

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Old 06-23-2001, 12:10 PM   #16
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Default Yes ... Firestone's

Hey ARG,

Firestones ...hee,hee ... that's what I thougt too when I started looking .... but I'm running 225.50.16's Firestone Firehawks sz50 ep's on team dynamics on my '97 legacy gt ... and no rubbing either autocrossing, hard back road driving and on gravel....

team dynamics are 50 mm offset, 16.7 ... tread contact width is 7.5 inches ... and same diameter as stock 205.55.16's ... stock wheel on the legacy is 16.6 ... tread contact width on stock 205.55.16 was 7 inches ..

... and ... WOW... do these tires and wheels do wonders for driving ... got to drive my favorite 10 mile stretch of undulating, winding back road yesterday for the first time with these wheels and tires mounted ... I came out of that stretch with my mouth open ... and simply amazed ... and I didnt run WOT ... focused on driving it as smoothly as I could this time through ...

and the top three tires in my search ... SO2, SO3 and these ... finally went with Firestone after several chats with Luke@ tirerack ... and I am very happy with these for the mix of driving I do



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Old 06-23-2001, 09:02 PM   #17
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ARG,

Boy have I got a deal for you. Especially since we have a TireRack rep., now. Give luke@tirerack.com a shout and ask about the Bridgestone RE71. They're being discontinued with new models that have come in, but these were OEM on Porsche for a few years. I've heard great things of them. I think they're W-rated, but I forget.

205/55-16 is going for............$75/each. Seriously.

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