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Old 10-19-2004, 05:42 PM   #1
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I have a 1997 2.2L i curently have a short ram intake, borla header, underdrive pulley set, excedy stock replacement clutch.........I do not want to boost it because its not worth it, but i would like to get a little more power and i was wondering if anyone had any good ideas on what to do with 2,000 for parts and or mods, i also have a fuel pressure regulator uninstalled, any ideas or what you guys have done for 2,000 or less to get some more ponies ? and what kind of results should be expected?
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Old 10-19-2004, 06:41 PM   #2
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more power ehh? COBB Equal length headers->High flow cat- cat back maybe. With Cobb Cams. That should get ya some more power. Figure around 500?? for the cams + deposit. And around 800-1000 for the exhaust??

Personally, I would so suspension mods. Like a nice set of struts/springs. Or even coilovers with some new swaybars. That way you can use whatever speed ya got when your turning

If you havent already, a nice set of tires and possibly some wheels.

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Old 10-19-2004, 08:49 PM   #3
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A 2.5RS engine?
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Old 10-19-2004, 10:38 PM   #4
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A 2.5RS engine?

Word. The most cost effective mod you can do to your 2.2L.
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Old 10-19-2004, 10:45 PM   #5
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you can get a cam regrind from delta cam for $120 that would set your 2.2 about 3hp less than an EJ25. I don't know why anybody would even want an EJ25.

So turboing isn't worth it? You could easily have a turbo motor for less than $2000... 230, 280, 300hp... it all depends.
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Old 10-19-2004, 11:36 PM   #6
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AFAIK, cobb doesn't make equal length headers for the 2.2.

i'd say put a nice deposit down on a FAT turbo kit.

PS: with those mods, what numbers do you run at the strip ?

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Old 10-20-2004, 12:03 AM   #7
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A 2.5RS engine?
blah! 2.2 and 2.5 arent different enough (imho, we have both) to be worth it

instead save an extra 1k and get the wrx 2.0 turbo!
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:28 AM   #8
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for less than 2k, he could have a JDM turbo motor dropped in, or even make a hybrid turbo motor by going to an exhaust shop, having them make something custom, getting a turbo, and doing all the work yourself and still have CASH left over.

Yeah, a 2002 2.5RS motor is way more reliable than say, a '96-'00 2.5 motor. now, which one do you think he more easily able to come by? the phase I or phase II? besides, why do an expensive swap when you can have all the reliability of a 2.2 and the power of a 2.5 with cams and headwork.
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:30 AM   #9
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where the crap do you shop ? i'd like a JDM turbo motor installed for less than 2k.
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:34 AM   #10
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if you'd learn to turn a wrench, you'd save alot of money.

you can grab a JDM EJ20G/EJ207 off ebay for about $1k to $1.5k sometimes. (with or without ecu, it all depends.)

we're still coming up with getting MSEFI on our subies. This would not only be a cost effective way but also a time effective way to get turbo swaps done. More tuning than those high name high cost options.
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:37 AM   #11
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so.....he is not able to get a JDM turbo motor for less than or around 2k....with the things needed in order for it to run, like the ECU.

i know how to turn a wrench.....even with the savings on labor, it'd still cost more tan 2k with all of the things needed to make a turbo swap happen..if it was that cheap, everyone would do it
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Old 10-20-2004, 02:21 AM   #12
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Whoops sorry! I didn't notice he has a 2.2.
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Old 10-20-2004, 02:50 AM   #13
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Yeah, a 2002 2.5RS motor is way more reliable than say, a '96-'00 2.5 motor. now, which one do you think he more easily able to come by? the phase I or phase II?
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Phase I EJ25 (MY96-98)
Phase II EJ25 (MY99+)
The Phase II SOHC started in 99, not 02
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it'd still cost more tan 2k with all of the things needed to make a turbo swap happen..if it was that cheap, everyone would do it
True dat

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Old 10-20-2004, 02:54 AM   #14
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if you'd learn to turn a wrench, you'd save alot of money.

you can grab a JDM EJ20G/EJ207 off ebay for about $1k to $1.5k sometimes. (with or without ecu, it all depends.)

we're still coming up with getting MSEFI on our subies. This would not only be a cost effective way but also a time effective way to get turbo swaps done. More tuning than those high name high cost options.

ahh your talking just short block then..no turbo etc
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Old 10-20-2004, 08:05 AM   #15
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1. sell your mods and return it to stock form.
2. sell your car.
3. take money from above sales with your $2K and put it down on a WRX.
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Old 10-20-2004, 10:41 AM   #16
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Stock exedy clutch is a mod? You don't want boost, but your sn is TurboCharged97L?

Anyways... for 2k, I'd save it, and start looking for a v4 front clip.
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Old 10-20-2004, 11:00 AM   #17
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I agree with a front clip swap. It has evrything you need in it except for the rear diff. Sometimes they even include that. Plus you usually get other goodies along with it. Any help you need to do it can most likely be found in the conversion forum.

I'd say save some more money and do a front clip swap. If the money is burning a hole in your pocket then dump it all into suspension mods and new tires. alk,struts,springs,endlinks,swaybars,strut bars,group n engine/tranny mounts.
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:25 PM   #18
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Default Thanks to those with realistic sugggestions

My turbocharged name was made when i had the intention of boosting but changed my mind.....boosting a stock motor with 100,000 miles on it just doesnt make sense, since it would cost around 5,500K to do a turbokit, it costs around 8,000k to do a motor swap......doing it RIGHT is key, as well as reliability.......8,000k will get me a sti555 motor, tranny, link ecu, headers, turbo-back exahaust, blow-off valve, and somewhere in the range of 310 hp at the crank......a unrealiable turbokit will put me in the low 200 range....i just cant see spending another 5-10 grand on a car that is going on 8 years old that takes me to college everyday......i would much rather save that money and put it towards a supercar like a 350Z, EVO, G35, STI,.......ETC.....YOU LOOK AND PERFORM WAY BETTER WITH A 30,000 DOLLAR CAR THEN YOU DO WITH A 15,000 DOLLAR CAR my opinion......and
JonofScio do you have a website for those delta cams or a phone number to contact them at

P.S. to whoever asked what i ran at the track it was a 16.3 in 83 degree weather.....not bad for a 2.2L with minimal mods
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:59 PM   #19
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you can get a cam regrind from delta cam for $120 that would set your 2.2 about 3hp less than an EJ25. I don't know why anybody would even want an EJ25.
EJ22 + $120 cam regrind = 162 Hp?

27 HP for $120? That sounds like the deal of the century.
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Old 10-20-2004, 02:46 PM   #20
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i just cant see spending another 5-10 grand on a car that is going on 8 years old that takes me to college everyday......i would much rather save that money and put it towards a supercar like a 350Z, EVO, G35, STI,.......ETC.....YOU LOOK AND PERFORM WAY BETTER WITH A 30,000 DOLLAR CAR THEN YOU DO WITH A 15,000 DOLLAR CAR my opinion......and
JonofScio do you have a website for those delta cams or a phone number to contact them at

P.S. to whoever asked what i ran at the track it was a 16.3 in 83 degree weather.....not bad for a 2.2L with minimal mods
so lets get this straight, you cannot see yourself actually usefully modifying the car, yet you see throwing away 2 grand on it?

Also, since when did a 350Z, EVO, G35, or an STi become a supercar
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Old 10-20-2004, 03:44 PM   #21
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Also, since when did a 350Z, EVO, G35, or an STi become a supercar
When you compare it to a 135hP 97 L

Seriously though; putting 2000 dollars may get you close to the power level of an EJ25, but you will still be stuck with a small aging engine... The EJ25 will give you more power and torque everywhere in the power band, something no cam grind can do. And for the price of a used 2.5 L engine, I think it would be by far your most cost effective solution.
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Old 10-20-2004, 03:53 PM   #22
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Phase I EJ25 (MY98)
Phase II EJ25 (MY99+)
The Phase II SOHC started in 99, not 02
There has never been an EJ25 from 96-98
...Not sure if that was clear.


True dat
There was an EJ25 available from 96-97, in the best-selling Subaru, the Legacy. The Subaru world doesn't revolve around the Impreza. The Legacy GT, LSi and Outback had a 155HP 2.5 in 96. The 165HP version came along in 97.

I'm with those suggesting an EJ25 swap.
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Old 10-20-2004, 04:02 PM   #23
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The delta cams are going to cost more than $162. You have shipping, new headgaskets, new head bolts, lubes and other miscellaneous. Plus labour. To get more out them you will need some fuel and timing tuning. Might want an RRFPR to get up to 165bhp--reliably. So count on a few hundred more.
There was a good build up description on here just the other day. Take a look for it.
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Old 10-20-2004, 04:05 PM   #24
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A phase I 2.5l is a super easy swap to your car - no wiring required. If you can find one with a good headgasket, get it shipped to you and in your car for under $2000, that is your best bet. You will need the headers but the ECU is not necessary, but desirable. Avoid the '96 as it has less power and needs premium gas.
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Old 10-20-2004, 05:26 PM   #25
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FOUL!!

JonofScio keeps giving prices, and I'm going to have to throw the BS flag. $2000 for an ej20 swap? Not possible, unless someone GIVES you an ej20, and then you pay for the rest of the gozillion parts you need to put it in a non-turbo car. Crossmember, clutch, harness, ECU, fuel pump, etc... Not to mention a hood, and possible front end conversion to either make a top mount IC work, or a front mount. That is, unless you can find a water to air IC.
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