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Old 10-24-2004, 03:33 PM   #1
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Default Speed difference between WRX Sedan and Wagon?

First post here.

Use to be on Honda-tech till my civic got stolen right outside my house. Going to look for a used WRX sedan or wagon now if the price is within my range.

I was wondering how much slower is the wagon compared to the sedan? I know they both have the same engine and output but is there a big difference with the additional weight of the wagon.

Sorry, i'm usually a Honda guy so bear with me.
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Old 10-24-2004, 03:44 PM   #2
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I'm sure the wagon is a little bit slower, as you said due to weight, but I don't think you would notice. Any way if that little bit of speed loss bothers you go ahead and get a sedan or better yet an STI if you can afford it. Once you get one, either sedan or wagon, you won't regret it.
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Old 10-24-2004, 04:09 PM   #3
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....or a Forester XT.... They can be all nasty modded and still look like soccermoms car(if ya want) and smoke all the mad little ricers.....
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Old 10-24-2004, 04:57 PM   #4
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As the owner of a sedan, I'll guarantee that it's at least twice as fast as the wagon. That's what I tell myself whenever I long for the wagon's practicality.
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Old 10-24-2004, 07:59 PM   #5
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I was wondering how much slower is the wagon compared to the sedan? I know they both have the same engine and output but is there a big difference with the additional weight of the wagon.
From the '02 Tech Manual:

Curb Weight

WRX Sedan (5MT):
Front: 1,820 lbs
Rear: 1,255 lbs
Total: 3,075 lbs

WRX Wagon (5MT):
Front: 1,820 lbs
Rear: 1,335 lbs
Total: 3,155 lbs

So, the difference is 80lbs, all of that being in the "rear". In my opinion, the 80 lbs isn't enough of a difference that it should be a deciding factor in which car you buy.



Things you should consider:


1) The appearance difference between the Sedan and Wagon - which do you prefer?

2) The Sedan has wider wheel arches, so it is easier to get wider wheels/tires onto the sedan. Though, rolling the wagon's fenders is always an option if you need more tire room.

3) The wagon has more cargo room in back, including the 60/40 fold down seats. It also comes standard with roof rails.

4) The wagon is arguable more of a sleeper car - which may or may not be what you want.
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Old 10-24-2004, 08:33 PM   #6
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....or a Forester XT.... They can be all nasty modded and still look like soccermoms car(if ya want) and smoke all the mad little ricers.....
subdued--->sleeper---->unconsious----> soccermom?

Even I wouldn't go that far!
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Old 10-24-2004, 09:44 PM   #7
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sedan all the way unless you love ski
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Old 10-24-2004, 10:20 PM   #8
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The track is also slightly narrower in the wagon. Not by much though.
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Old 10-24-2004, 10:55 PM   #9
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The track is also slightly narrower in the wagon. Not by much though.
Yeah and the rear sway bar is tad bit smaller. By the buttdyno, I don't think you could perceive much of a difference between a sedan and a wagon. A negligable difference at best.

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Old 10-25-2004, 12:17 AM   #10
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If your'e asking this question it means you really want a wagon, but are worried you will lose too much performance.

The answer is NO. Go Wagon! Wagon's Rule!
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Old 10-25-2004, 12:22 AM   #11
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there is very little difference other than i bet its really fun to beat people in a wagon
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Old 10-25-2004, 02:44 AM   #12
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Wagon powa,you will be happy you wagind.

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Old 10-25-2004, 05:19 AM   #13
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there is very little difference other than i bet its really fun to beat people in a wagon
you got that right
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Old 10-25-2004, 06:32 AM   #14
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Motor Trend Magazine clocked the sedan at 5.4 sec 0-60 mph and the wagon at 5.8 sec 0-60 mph. The Motor Trend staff also said that the wagon is a better buy ($1000 less than the sedan) and allot more practical.
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Old 10-25-2004, 09:05 AM   #15
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well my VF30 wagon = VF34 sedan both of us had similar mods.
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Old 10-25-2004, 09:20 AM   #16
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The wagon = cheaper, so suckers like me spend more for the sedan
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Old 10-25-2004, 09:47 AM   #17
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you used to drive a honda? GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!!!
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Old 10-25-2004, 10:44 AM   #18
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Doesn't the wagon have a different axle ratio as well?
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Old 10-25-2004, 11:26 AM   #19
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Doesn't the wagon have a different axle ratio as well?
YES, IT HAS A FORD REAREND
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Doesn't the wagon have a different axle ratio as well?
No..
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Old 10-25-2004, 11:47 AM   #21
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YES, IT HAS A FORD REAREND


wagons are fantastically practical, but if you're into appearance mods (ie bodykits) the pickings are slim for wagons. if you're going to do a proper suspension on a wagon you have slightly fewer options than the sedan. i love my wagon. i carried an entire mobile sound system around in it for awhile.. i could rock a house party with only one grounded electrical outlet next purchase: power inverter
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Old 10-25-2004, 11:59 AM   #22
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you used to drive a honda? GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!!!
lol i'm staying for sure. Thanks for the responses, it really got me thinking about what I would want in a car. I'm pretty decided on a wagon since the price is a bit cheaper than a sedan unless i find a better deal on a sedan.

This sound like a warm deal?

2002 WRX Wagon with 40421 miles for $15,997

KBB listed the car from $15xxx to $17xxx.
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Old 10-25-2004, 12:04 PM   #23
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that sounds okay.. i paid about $18,xxx for my wagon last winter with ~20k miles and a set of P1's
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Old 10-25-2004, 03:08 PM   #24
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I was wondering how much slower is the wagon compared to the sedan? I know they both have the same engine and output but is there a big difference with the additional weight of the wagon.

Sorry, i'm usually a Honda guy so bear with me.
Welcome to NASIOC. Don't worry - Lots of us came from Honda-land (or Team-Integra.net in my case), so it's all good. I promise you will LOVE all-wheel-drive.

As people said, the weight difference betw. sedan and wagon is only 80 lbs. I would like to add that if you're comparing a MT wagon to a AT sedan OR a sedan with a sunroof, then there is almost no weight difference. In fact, the wagon might even be lighter.

I have a wagon and I love it, but there are a few things about it that have been mentioned here that you should consider.
One I'd mention also is that there are no fender flares on the wagon, so if you want to lower it at all, you need to watch your tire/wheel selection.
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Old 10-25-2004, 04:05 PM   #25
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YES, IT HAS A FORD REAREND
I thought it did given the extra weight but apparently not - I should've checked as both have a 3.900 final drive.
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