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Old 10-28-2004, 06:51 PM   #1
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Default Parking/Ebrake on Front? Can anyone describe?

Hey all, I've tried searching but can't find any info, probably because people use too many different terms...

I'm researching something for a different project, but I came across a discussion that asserted that the GL and possibly Loyale family cars had the ebrake (parking brake, etc.) connected to the front wheel or wheels.

Can anyone provide any info on this? Verify its true? Anyone have a GL up on blocks in the garage with the front wheels off who can take a picture?

Just curious how the mechanism works, as it might be useful to retrofit it to a different setup...

Hope someone knows about this. Thanks.
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Old 10-28-2004, 07:06 PM   #2
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Yep,

I believe every pre-legacy subaru had the e-brake in front. It works just like standard ebrakes(cable actuated), just in front. What's this "project" you speak of?

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Old 10-28-2004, 07:30 PM   #3
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Trying to figure out if its practical to build a "Locost" style Seven, except with a Subaru lump mounted mid-engined in the rear.

One of the hangups for moving a front suspension system to the back is needing a parking brake somewhere. If I can figure out how to parts-swap to get a pre-Legacy front parking brake onto a Legacy hub (or at least at the end of Legacy axles), then that solves that problem.

There are lots of other issues, of course, like shift linkage, and "non-steering" tie rods, but these aren't very much different from the things OEM's do when they move FWD transverse systems rearward (MR2, Fiero, etc.)

The track width looks pretty much correct for a "Book + 4" chassis (meaning a 4" wider version of the chassis from Ron Champion's "Build Your Own Sportscar" book). I'd want a 4" wider chassis anyways (need the elbow room!).

The chassis mods would be fairly simple, I think. The original design put the "top plate" for the coilover spring for the 4-link live axle setup right about the same place you'd want to anchor the top of the struts if you were mounting a transaxle back there. The rear body work would have to change a bit, and obviously the passenger section gets moved forward some, but overall I think its doable.

I was also sweating the somewhat unorthodox Subaru 5x100 bolt pattern (wanting to keep same wheels F/R) but I realized one of the common uprights for Locosters is the '84-'87 Fiero setup, which is already 5x100...

Still in the "What if" stage, since starting a project like this would mean selling one of my other cars to make room, etc., but the "What if" is definitely looking more plausible.
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Old 10-29-2004, 02:48 PM   #4
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Herbie,

I have a friend in town who is planning a locost 7 build and trying to figure out what power plant to use. I keep telling him subaru but then again I'm a subaru nut. I say you should go for it.

One interesting model that you might want to look into is the AWD XT-6. It is sort of the missing link between the oldschool Loyale and the legacy/impreza era. 5x100 lugs, four wheel discs and front mounted ebrakes. The power plant is a 6 cylinder 2.7 liter boxer (pre H6). The tranny is AWD with a locking center dif....

Check out http://www.xt6.net/ for more info or http://usmb.net for more general old school subaru info

good luck

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Old 10-29-2004, 03:13 PM   #5
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My '88 Loyale had the eBrake on the front. It looks just it would on the rear of an American car with a brake caliper eBrake design(non internal drum)....'88 TBird, Escort.... I was very dissapointed when I rounded the first corner and pulled on the handle and nothing happened.... The rear wheels were just along for the ride.....

It was FWD and with the eBrake you could sort of have poor mans traction control in the snow...


PS. I think some SAAB's and K-Cars had them on the front also....
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