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Old 11-02-2004, 06:07 PM   #1
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Default Outsourcing not just for US -- India Outsourcing Firms Now Outsourcing to China

I suppose eventually work its way back to where the US business outsources to the India firm that outsources to the China firm that outsources to the US...

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...printstory.jsp

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Indian outsourcing firms outsource jobs to China

By Saritha Rai
New York Times

BANGALORE, India - When Infosys Technologies began scouting for an alternative to India as a source of unlimited, low-cost human resources, the fast-growing company came up with one answer: its home country's archrival, China.

Now, a year after the Infosys Technologies (Shanghai) was set up, the venture center has 200 employees and four multinational customers.

Infosys, the Bangalore software-services company, and other top Indian outsourcing rivals, including Tata Consultancy Services and Wipro Technologies, are doing application development and maintenance work in China as they grow rapidly to keep up with booming demand from the West for their services.

And they are quickly concluding that only China has a worker base equal to India's in terms of cost, quality and scale. Expansion there also offers the ability to cater to -- and possibly garner more of -- the local and regional markets, including Japan.

Vigorous global demand -- revenue from India's information-technology exports was $12.5 billion in the year ended in March, up 30 percent from the previous year -- has resulted in a 10 percent to 15 percent annual rise in wages in India's software- and back-office-services industry.

According to a KPMG study for the National Association of Software and Services Companies, or Nasscom, an industry trade group in India, the country will face an acute shortage of technical employees by 2009, falling short by about 250,000 workers.

`Deep reservoir'

``We need a deep reservoir of talent as well as an alternative low-cost center like India as we continue to grow,'' said Nandan Nilekani, chief executive of Infosys, who has talked of his company's scaling up to become the Wal-Mart of outsourcing. ``And only China can match up.''

In the quarter ended in September, Infosys alone added more than 5,000 employees, for a total of nearly 33,000. And Wipro added 5,500 employees, reaching more than 36,000.

Though its software export revenues were just $700 million in 2003, ``China will soon be competing with India as an outsourcing destination,'' said the Singapore-based Girija Pande, director for Asia Pacific of Tata Consultancy, India's top software-services exporter. It set up operations in China in 2002.

And a presence now, these companies say, positions them to grab such future business.

China has about 200,000 information-technology workers -- compared with India's 850,000 -- in 6,000 local companies, according to some estimates. More than 50,000 Chinese software programmers are being added to this pool annually.

Emphasis on education

Some important ingredients that have made India a formidable global software-services exporter are in place in China as well, like the high value put on education and a focus on engineering in higher education.

The Chinese government is sweetening the deal for the Indian companies, as well as for global competitors like Accenture and IBM Global Services, by offering high-quality infrastructure at low costs and offering alliances with local universities to recruit Chinese talent.

China also offers Indian outsourcing companies a low employee turnover rate. For instance, Tata Consultancy's staff turnover in China is less than 6 percent a year, compared with 15 percent in its Indian operations. The company says it may double the number of employees in China in the next 18 months from its current 180.

While few industry experts say they think that China will rival India as a viable offshore software-development center anytime soon, most say they think it will happen eventually.

``The raw materials -- talent and infrastructure -- are there,'' said V. Sriram, the Tokyo-based vice president, Asia Pacific, at Infosys, ``so it is only a matter of time before the ecosystem evolves.''
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Old 11-02-2004, 08:15 PM   #2
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India has only 850,000 IT workers out of a population of over a billion. That's like %0.085 of all Indians.

I think the problem is that China has a massive unskilled working class who have moved from farming into the cities in the last generation. Those people are now stuck with no income and no livelihood outside of a sweatshop. The so-called communist government of China is not looking out for the proletariat. Instead the government folks there are getting rich by courting foreign investors and/or by driving Chinese laborers into conditions of near slavery. It's total BS I tell ya.

Oh btw, see if you can catch any word of the rioting and martial law in the media. Hah.
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