Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Wednesday September 24, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Technical > Normally Aspirated with bolt-on Forced Induction Powertrain

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-04-2004, 01:12 PM   #1
fukamoto
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 13339
Join Date: Dec 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Albany, NY
Vehicle:
2014 SWP WRX Wagon
White

Default Need Serious Help...

I'll write a whole report after the full install is done but I installed the AVO kit on the 2002-2003 2.5RS. Has anybody else done it? There are alot of small differences which were done from each generation which was never brought to my attention. Nonetheless, everything is hooked up but I got problems.

a) BOV hose : Where does the other end of the BOV hose connect to?

b) Fuelpressure regulator: I tee'd off on the FPR and had quite a bit of gas leak go through but none through the Link ECU when I fired it up.

c) The Link ECU is all hooked up but the car cranks but doesnt start. I put the injectors/ignition wires to the stock ECU and it fired up fine. Now I have to wonder if the 2002-2003 requires the injectors/ignition to be wired through the stock ECU rather than the Link. Would it be okay to run the injectors/ignition from the stock ECU?

Can anybody help?
I'm going to call AVO in Australia later today and I'ev called Sean@Rallitek but he hasn't gotten back to me in days.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
fukamoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2004, 02:50 PM   #2
reddevil
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 64673
Join Date: Jun 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: portland
Vehicle:
1990 Legacy wagon
goes 12.387 @ 116.5

Default

Sean is in Vegas oogling women and car parts at SEMA
reddevil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2004, 02:54 PM   #3
squirrelmasta
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 33445
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Seattle, WA
Vehicle:
2005 Chevy Silverado
Cherry Red

Default

you could give spomotorsports.com a call too if you would like.
-Eli
squirrelmasta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2004, 02:59 PM   #4
fukamoto
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 13339
Join Date: Dec 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Albany, NY
Vehicle:
2014 SWP WRX Wagon
White

Default

Spo told me to call Rallitek.

Yeah, Sean is tough to get a hold of. I tried calling him before he jetted to SEMA but he never called back.
fukamoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2004, 08:49 PM   #5
cRayZee
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 6271
Join Date: May 2001
Location: San Jose
Vehicle:
2001 2.5RSTi
2007 Legacy Spec B

Default

When you turn on the car, can you connect your laptop to the LINK and see if it's up and running?
cRayZee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 12:16 AM   #6
Drac9
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 9861
Join Date: Sep 2001
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Vehicle:
1999 2.35 RS-T w/NOS
Hybrid Rally Blue Pearl

Default

For being "Sponsered by Avo" they sure haven't given you much support yet.
Drac9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 07:34 AM   #7
Tats
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 5692
Join Date: Apr 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Lovely Florida, NY
Vehicle:
WTF? YES! I am
better than you!

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fukamoto
I'll write a whole report after the full install is done but I installed the AVO kit on the 2002-2003 2.5RS. Has anybody else done it? There are alot of small differences which were done from each generation which was never brought to my attention. Nonetheless, everything is hooked up but I got problems.
Quote:
a) BOV hose : Where does the other end of the BOV hose connect to?
One end od the BOV goes to the IC(obviously) The other recirc hose goes from the BOV to the metal air intake tube. After the Filter but before the turbo. By the PCV vent fitting.

Quote:
b) Fuelpressure regulator: I tee'd off on the FPR and had quite a bit of gas leak go through but none through the Link ECU when I fired it up.
???!!!! There should me NO FUEL ANYWHERE!. Since you are only teeing off the vacuum line. If there is fuel in there you have got bigger problems.

Quote:
c) The Link ECU is all hooked up but the car cranks but doesnt start. I put the injectors/ignition wires to the stock ECU and it fired up fine. Now I have to wonder if the 2002-2003 requires the injectors/ignition to be wired through the stock ECU rather than the Link. Would it be okay to run the injectors/ignition from the stock ECU?
No. Then there would be no purpose for the link. You will start and idle fine with the stock ECU...but as soon as boost comes on...BANG...bye bye motor.

Make SURE you have the correct wiring diagram for your ECU. Two injector wire from the moter goe to each wire from the link...And 2 wires from the coil packs go to each wire in the link.

Quote:
Can anybody help?
I'm going to call AVO in Australia later today and I'ev called Sean@Rallitek but he hasn't gotten back to me in days.
PM me your tel # I have minor surgery at 10 am EST but I'll try to call you later.

Tats.
Tats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 10:37 AM   #8
maxiav
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 40413
Join Date: Jul 2003
Vehicle:
2001 BRP RS-T EJ257
Link'd - 252WHP 274WTQ

Default

Fuel coming through the vacuum line???... you have a big problem there. Unless you tee'd off the fuel line instead of the vacuum line....hahaha... Another option is your FPR is ruined and is leaking.

For the LINKPLUS, contact "WRC555" or "WRC 555" they guy is a beast with the Link. He tuned my car in 1 hour and it runs like a charm.

You can run your car with the stock ECU.. just don't boost and you'll be ok.

As far as the BOV goes, I have a Greddy Type S and I have on hose connected to the intercooler and the second one connected to the inake manifold.
maxiav is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 10:41 AM   #9
White 2.5rs
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 39936
Join Date: Jul 2003
Vehicle:
99RS TWE&SCAT EJ257
Hydra+HMist+PPG+35R=DEATH

Default

yeah wrc knows his ish just remember that the firing order is different thatn wiring link wire 1 to cylinder injector 1 its more like 3-1 2-4 1-3 4-2 but there was a post in here for the wiring for a 2k that has a list of what wires to hook to what it made it a lot easier there is one mistake, the purge control is supposedly also radiator fan #2 its a misprint from subaru
White 2.5rs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 11:35 AM   #10
PHATsuby
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 13617
Join Date: Dec 2001
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: MN
Vehicle:
2001 Legacy GT back
to stock is a project too

Default

firing order is 1, 3, 2,4 so i would assume you wire injector 1 to 1, 2 to 3, 3 to 2, 4 to 4 if thats what you are saying.

the 02-03 RS's still have the 2 coil ignition system right?

i would just double check that wiring, then if you think its right start checking it, pull a plug out and put it on the block to see if its getting spark, or if you pull the plug and its all wet, chances are you either arent getting spark, or you are putting way too much fuel in on start up. if you flood it like that you will have to change plugs and wait for it to air out.

good luck

Ben
PHATsuby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 06:37 PM   #11
Tats
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 5692
Join Date: Apr 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Lovely Florida, NY
Vehicle:
WTF? YES! I am
better than you!

Default

None of this matters since it's NOT a link plus.

It's a Link1 Piggyback.
Tats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 06:38 PM   #12
Tats
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 5692
Join Date: Apr 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Lovely Florida, NY
Vehicle:
WTF? YES! I am
better than you!

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by maxiav

You can run your car with the stock ECU.. just don't boost and you'll be ok.

Kinda hard with that turbo. Full boost at about 2200-2500 rpms.
Tats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2004, 02:44 PM   #13
fukamoto
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 13339
Join Date: Dec 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Albany, NY
Vehicle:
2014 SWP WRX Wagon
White

Default

Tats : Sent you a PM.
WRC 555 I sent a PM.
Sean @ Rallitek does all of the Tech work for AVO and guess where he went. SEMA.

Well, we checked everything and it still doesnt fire up. We started our wiring from square 1 and nothing. THE wiring diagram from AVO is for the 2000 Impreza RS so I got the service manual for the 2003 and compared it one by one.

we are not gettin fuel .. its because of this one wire (green/red wire which goes from ECU to fuel pump and ignition at same time) .. we hook it back upto stock .. we get fuel but then no spark

Last edited by fukamoto; 11-06-2004 at 02:51 PM.
fukamoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2004, 02:48 PM   #14
fukamoto
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 13339
Join Date: Dec 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Albany, NY
Vehicle:
2014 SWP WRX Wagon
White

Default

.....
fukamoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2004, 06:27 PM   #15
subiekid
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 25516
Join Date: Oct 2002
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Send help, stuck in internet!
Vehicle:
1995 Legacy TURBO!!!
EJ22T/TEC3 & '12 Civic

Default

So are you removing the stock ecu? Does your link just plug right into the oem harness?

For my tec 3 I used the OEM ecu to controll things like turning on the fuel pump, and just used the TEC for timing/fuel.
subiekid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2004, 11:34 AM   #16
Rallitek.com
Former Vendor
 
Member#: 34814
Join Date: Apr 2003
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Portland , Oregon
Vehicle:
08 WRX
Lightning Red

Default

yeah... definitely get a hold of Sean.

sales@rallitek.com
503-546-9209

He'll be there Monday morning from 9:30am PST. I'll check this post tomorrow to remind him If I have to!

Bernie
Rallitek.com is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2004, 03:33 PM   #17
fukamoto
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 13339
Join Date: Dec 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Albany, NY
Vehicle:
2014 SWP WRX Wagon
White

Default

Thanks Bernie.
Sean is harder to get hold of than a celebrity. I've called Link Australia, AVO Japan, AVo Australia, Subaru New York, Subaru Vancouver, Subaru Montreal and got nothing but ??

I think I talked to Garner (?) @ Rallitek. Thanks./ I'll call in the morning.
fukamoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2004, 03:57 AM   #18
asusimpreza
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 4416
Join Date: Feb 2001
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Gabriel Valley
Vehicle:
1989 Escort
Blue

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fukamoto
I'll write a whole report after the full install is done but I installed the AVO kit on the 2002-2003 2.5RS. Has anybody else done it? There are alot of small differences which were done from each generation which was never brought to my attention. Nonetheless, everything is hooked up but I got problems.

a) BOV hose : Where does the other end of the BOV hose connect to?

b) Fuelpressure regulator: I tee'd off on the FPR and had quite a bit of gas leak go through but none through the Link ECU when I fired it up.

c) The Link ECU is all hooked up but the car cranks but doesnt start. I put the injectors/ignition wires to the stock ECU and it fired up fine. Now I have to wonder if the 2002-2003 requires the injectors/ignition to be wired through the stock ECU rather than the Link. Would it be okay to run the injectors/ignition from the stock ECU?

Can anybody help?
I'm going to call AVO in Australia later today and I'ev called Sean@Rallitek but he hasn't gotten back to me in days.
Hopefully for both your a) and b) questions, you T-offed the vacuum hoses coming out from the intake manifold (one going to the fuel pressure regulator). These hoses should be on the top left intake manifold (if you are facing your engine).

This is assuming you are using the Link that came with the AVO kit and not the LINK Plus. As far as your c) question. The whole point of the Link, is that it takes control of both your fuel and timing. If you don't hook up the injector/igntion wires, you might as well not use a aftermarket ECM. The Link is suppose to richen your fuel and also lower your timing.

I'm still unsure on which green/red wire you speak of. Did you hook up the AVO fuel cut? Have a good ground for both the fuel cut and the Link? The ground for the Link will have to be on a unpainted surface on the chasis. I would think that the harness will be the same for MY01 or MY02/03. You can always check on Ravensblade for ECU pintout diagrams.
asusimpreza is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I NEED SERIOUS HELP FROM FELLOW NW'sters! (CEL) zzzzzzzz North West Impreza Club Forum -- NWIC 12 07-09-2005 09:44 AM
Tuners! 02 Rst Need Serious Help Please!!! Kripski Engine Management & Tuning 7 04-13-2004 03:29 PM
Need serious help 9 Service & Maintenance 3 09-06-2003 12:41 PM
Need serious help Pochebum Factory 2.0L Turbo Powertrain 3 12-06-2002 10:02 AM
Need serious help fast with brake pad/rotor issue. Jasno999 Tri-State Area Forum 13 05-01-2002 07:04 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.