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Old 06-27-2001, 01:16 PM   #1
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Default Forced induction on 2001 Legacy GT

My wife is telling me now that the Legacy especially with automatic is lacking power. So I'm looking into forced induction. I've read some articles from SCC on some turbo installation with parts from Vishnu on the 2.5RS Impreza. Since it's the same engine, I could probably use it on the Legacy. Also Cobb Tuning offers some turbo kits for the Impreza but didn't see one for the Legacy. But then, I'm wondering for daily driving the Rimmer Supercharger would be a better install. It's just a bolt on and can probably be bolted-off if we no longer want it on there.

http://www.rimmersuperchargers.com/subaru.html

What is your take on this?

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Old 06-27-2001, 01:37 PM   #2
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people on this board have run into problems with the rimmer kit. it hasn't included everything needed, and fabrication is required -so it's not bolt on and go.

regarding a turbo kit, i don't know if you have a 5-speed or auto, but the auto tranny is wider and requires a smaller/different shaped downpipe to clear it.

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Old 06-27-2001, 01:40 PM   #3
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umm,

a supercharger doesn't have an up/down pipe like a turbo does.

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Old 06-27-2001, 01:54 PM   #4
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hey, where can I find a mod-friendly wife like
that???

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Old 06-27-2001, 02:09 PM   #5
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people on this board have run into problems with the rimmer kit. it hasn't included everything needed, and fabrication is required -so it's not bolt on and go.

regarding a turbo kit, i don't know if you have a 5-speed or auto, but the auto tranny is wider and requires a smaller/different shaped downpipe to clear it.

edited for clarity.
Hmm...I also heard that there were some issues with delivery of the Rimmer kit even after pre-paying. Some customer satisfaction problems?

We have an auto tranny. Wished she could take more time to learn the manual but she gave up after a few weeks.
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Old 06-27-2001, 02:12 PM   #6
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hey, where can I find a mod-friendly wife like
that???

I dunno, check online. Seriously, I met her on-line on IRC. She likes "cool" cars. I started out with a modified SE-R, then 95 M3 and now 91 M3 and hopefully sell the M3 to get a WRX. But I really wished the Legacy came with the B4's twin-turbo! Damn!
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Old 06-27-2001, 02:14 PM   #7
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people on this board have run into problems with the rimmer kit. it hasn't included everything needed, and fabrication is required -so it's not bolt on and go.

regarding a turbo kit, i don't know if you have a 5-speed or auto, but the auto tranny is wider and requires a smaller/different shaped downpipe to clear it.

edited for clarity.
Umm..so...what solutions for forced induction do the Legacy guys here use?
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Old 06-27-2001, 03:10 PM   #8
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factory turbo (91-94)

or n/a.

i was looking at the capa kit for the 2.2, but may buy a used RS this weekend.

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Old 06-27-2001, 05:27 PM   #9
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Lightbulb Complete Rimmer setup in classifieds...

If your concern with Rimmer is getting it and getting it set up, this might be a good way to go: http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthr...threadid=65610 .

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Old 06-27-2001, 06:27 PM   #10
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Car Modifications has a twin turbo setup for all Subarus. Cost is quite high though.
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Old 06-27-2001, 08:07 PM   #11
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Check Forced Air Technologies, here in Arizona. You can find them in the Links category. They've turboed a bunch of local Subaru's and are familiar with turboing the Legacy GT.
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Old 06-27-2001, 10:25 PM   #12
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Damn we need a s/c setup for these cars! We need the power right from idle for our heavier cars (as opposed to most of the turbo applications.)
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Old 06-28-2001, 01:09 AM   #13
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Damn we need a s/c setup for these cars! We need the power right from idle for our heavier cars (as opposed to most of the turbo applications.)
Yeah! I know what you mean..... need power from everywhere for this 3400lb car...and one that works well auto tranny too.
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Old 06-28-2001, 01:20 AM   #14
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Check Forced Air Technologies, here in Arizona. You can find them in the Links category. They've turboed a bunch of local Subaru's and are familiar with turboing the Legacy GT.
I'm also looking for something that doesn't require $1000-2000 worth of labor. I'm really looking for a self install system. I've got a few buddies with Rx7s and Turbo charged SE-Rs that can probably help.

Dang..that AMR twin turbo system for the Legacy is $7500. Woah!
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Old 06-28-2001, 02:20 AM   #15
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i think jc sports has a turbo kit for the legacy. wether you want to deal with them or not its up to you.
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Old 06-28-2001, 12:25 PM   #16
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dang, for $7500 you could probably do an H6 transplant, assuming its the same auto tranny. Or trade up. While 212 Hp is not a lot, the 3.0 Liters do offer nice low end torque.
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Old 06-28-2001, 12:54 PM   #17
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I would stay completely away from the www.carmodifications.com twin-turbo setup. I haven't heard of anyone even having this on their car. Plus this kit was designed specifically for Subarus yet I have never heard of them posting or even having I-Club memberships. That whole thing sounds a little hokey.

The only supercharger kit I would trust is the Rimmer Kit that the guy from Bianchi Subaru has reworked. He really knows what he is doing. He reworked piping, fitted an STI intercooler and controls it with a TEC-I. Basically to put it short he is one of the like 3 people who has gotten a super charger to work well on the car. Buy the whole setup from him. It is 100% worth the $4700 he is asking. Especially since it comes with a TEC-II and all the sensors. PLus hes willing to help with install if your close enough. You can't beat this. It will probably work better with your Auto Tranny also.

Check him out.
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Old 06-28-2001, 03:56 PM   #18
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I heard the AMR people were the old Minnum Turbo guys. They parted with current Minnum and started out a new business.

The kit sounds quite promising as it has all the necessary parts, turbos, hood scoop, and expensive aftermarket computer.

Other turbo kits may sound cheaper initially, but they dont' come with hood scoop or the computer necessary to make the turbo work flawlessly.

Anyway, $7500 is still a big $$$$$.
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Old 06-28-2001, 04:31 PM   #19
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I heard the same rumor about them beeing the other half of Minnam when they split up.

I was checking the message board on their site to see how it was coming. To my knowledge they haven't released the kit for sale yet. Its been over year since they started taking deposits for R&D on their high cost twin turbo setup.

You are right $7000 is about what your going to pay for a well built turbo with engine management ECU. I'd rather have a custom turbo fabricated and choose the TEC-II for engine management.
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Old 06-28-2001, 04:38 PM   #20
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Check out Lude Speed or ASR for alternative turbo options. I know there's a guy here on the board with an white ASR turbo GT that is really sick. I believe ludespeed and ASR kits with intercooler run in the $3k range.

Ludespeed will probably be my route. Good luck!

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Old 06-29-2001, 08:45 AM   #21
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there's also rallispec in nj. their turbo kits are sold installed only, but you know there won't be any problems with fitment, then.

roger

no, i don't receive any money from them. i'm just really impressed with the work they do.
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Old 06-29-2001, 01:02 PM   #22
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I've had a few dealings with Rallispec and I'll cast my vote with froggert/roger. Rallispec does a top notch job. Very professional and customer oriented.
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