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Old 11-10-2004, 06:03 PM   #26
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Hello again,
Just an FYI...

I ran out and confirmed, my inlet hose is the new style with the "P" logo. It was drop-shipped to me from Perrin maybe 2 months ago.

Also, when I mentioned the tight fit on the turbo inlet side, I was not giving a fair description. I was trying to imply that while it was extremely snug, I didn't think it was nearly as difficult as some people have described, even those with stock turbos. Maybe that is something to do with the newer design.
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Old 11-10-2004, 06:08 PM   #27
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Ones that display the P only logo are the older versions. Ones with the entire PERRIN word spelled out are made from newer mandrels.

Thank you for the other clarification as well on the tightness. They can vary a bit part by part and color by color. We try to be as dead on as possible.

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Old 11-10-2004, 06:17 PM   #28
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Sorry, I'm still confused. I thought the "P" logo was the new one. Mine has the large "P" with the word "PERRIN" underneath in smaller letters.

At any rate, mine looks exactly like this one, but blue:
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Old 11-10-2004, 06:24 PM   #29
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That picture (off our website) does show the older version. They are only slightly different with some minor changed to port locations, radius of the bend, hole sizes etc. There isn't anything per say wrong with the one you have. I was only trying to point out that ones without the P and only a LARGE PERRIN™ logo are off the newest tooling. There will be many of them on dealer shelves with the older version for the next several months. Some coming directly from our building will have the newer logo.

Not beating a dead horse just trying to clarify.

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Old 11-10-2004, 06:46 PM   #30
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hahaha, now it makes sense. Thanks for tolerating my insanity.
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Old 11-10-2004, 06:51 PM   #31
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I would love to see you make a turbo inlet hose that goes all the way to the airbox and eliminate the accordian elbow. One smooth silicon pipe that goes all the way from the box to the turbo.
Something like the overpriced AVO inlet, but at much more affordable prices.
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Old 11-10-2004, 06:55 PM   #32
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something to accomodate what you are looking for. The full length (one piece) versions can interfere with many intake systems. We will have a silicone elbow to extend between the air box and the inlet hose. Should be very reasonably priced.

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Old 11-10-2004, 09:22 PM   #33
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That's a great idea. I'd love to have a piece (or pieces) that go from the stock airbox to the turbo. I was looking at the Samco MAF hose, but it seems overpriced for what it is.
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Old 11-10-2004, 09:37 PM   #34
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One problem I've heard about pieces like that is a difference in the number of silicone plys. Some pieces have 5, others 3--There's no way to get them to match up perfectly. Again, just something I've heard.
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Old 11-10-2004, 10:47 PM   #35
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By springtime we will have something to accomodate what you are looking for. The full length (one piece) versions can interfere with many intake systems. We will have a silicone elbow to extend between the air box and the inlet hose. Should be very reasonably priced.

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Unfortunately, I don't want a regular Perrin inlet hose and a seperate elbow. Samco already does that. I was hoping for a smooth flowing one piece pipe without sudden changes in diameter. I have only heard good things about the one piece AVO. Oh well.
Keep up the good work and thanks for replying. It is good to see manufacturers talking directly to the customers to see what we want.

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Old 11-10-2004, 10:58 PM   #36
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Any chance of bringing back the catted DP?
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Old 11-11-2004, 12:33 AM   #37
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I bought your up-pipe(no-flex) back in February. I must say that the quality and build of the up-pipe was A-1, installation sucked but so do all up-pipe installs . I also bought your CEL electronic fix from you since I was so happy with the previous pruduct. My question to you is-will it trigger any other CEL that you know of, do or have you had people get problems with this in the past. I will be intalling mine by the end of this month and would like some feedback.

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Old 11-11-2004, 12:35 AM   #38
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I forgot to mention that the CEL fix is for the O2 sensor not the up-pipe!

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Old 11-11-2004, 01:53 AM   #39
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props to perrin for keeping up on this forum so far...

i'm guessing it will continue to take some serious tenacity to uphold this thread and continue to address issues/concerns/suggestions on products...

takes some bizzalls to come here and just offer up the sacrificial lamb... "anyone care to comment on 'whats wrong with our products in your own opinions' "

opened the flood gates, not too bad so far... keep up the good work...

how bout addressing any concerns with the Perrin modified Wilwood calipers... i've heard (and have zero experience and zero first hand knowledge) that the pistons have a tendancy to cease up on these and/or need a rebuild, sooner rather than later.

Any knowledge of, or experience with this? and if so, why? anything being done to correct it...

the perrin modded wilwoods always looked like a good mix between caliper upgrade and still a reasonable price... and was the direction i was always steering until i heard this business about reliability... now i'm just not sure... that's a lotta $$ to spend if i don't know for sure its a solid platform and will last the test of time.

heck, WHAT exactly are you modifying on these calipers? is it a worthwhile upgrade, or just one of those arrangements with wilwood to help get product awareness out amongst the rex crowd?

thanks for any info

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Old 11-11-2004, 04:17 AM   #40
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Do you Guys have a new bumper beam to fit the the 02+ fmic. I have had your FMIC on for about a year now and always wished that the bumper beam fit properly to the 02+, I know that it is made for the 04s but when I purchased mine I was told it would fit no problem. I did get it to fit and it looks great, but The bumper skin is extremely loose and could use the fasteners on top to help secure the top of the bumper.

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Old 11-11-2004, 05:09 AM   #41
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post initially, I didn't want to be a sour grape. I bought and later sold (at a huge loss) the Perrin front and rear Wilwood brakes. No instructions, and no love/service after the sale. While I like the intent of this thread, it seems there are problems with Perrin products. I would prefer to deal with a company that stands behind their product, my experience with Perrin has shown me otherwise. I really wish I could recommend their products. I can't.

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Old 11-11-2004, 01:33 PM   #42
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Lachlan: If you use both PERRIN™ silicone items they would match as closely as possible. I understand your point completely.

dbrier: Understood. I have had that part in hand. Again only problem is you must use their intake system to have proper fit etc. Our potential part would work with the stock air box and many other intake systems.

vicmanblue: You can get other CEL's after that part is installed. It is designed to prevent the P0420 code. Other O2 codes that arrive after that installation may indicate actual problems with O2. Other CEL's will still come through and should be checked to diagnose other engine problems.

RexRonald: First thank you! We discontinued the modified calipers about two years ago and our calipers (cast versions) a little over a year ago. Any of them still floating around would either be used or really OLD. They can still be properly used, but they were always pushed toward track type use. For street use a STOPTECH, BREMBO, or Subaru 4-pot would be the ideal choice.

stu: The current bumper beam has provisions for both the 02-03 as well as the 04 model. Contact jeff@perrinperformance.com for details on modifying the one you have to match current specs. (Will require drilling a few holes for proper fit.) Let us know how to help further.

oldmansan: Please accept our apologies for any lack of customer service you may have received. We have instituted new internal policies to better help each customer for any problems they have. I hope that you might try another one of our products soon. Allow us an opportunity to impress you with the next upgrade!

Thanks again for all the feedback. We truly want this thread to benefit not only our current customers but our future customers as well!

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Old 11-11-2004, 04:23 PM   #43
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Well, I have a bunch of perrin products on my car. Catback exhaust, all of the various hoses they sell etc. I had bought a perrin intake a little while ago. Had it on for a day and noticed high egts, looked at the filter and the rubber boot had a tear in it. So I emailed and they said send it in so they could look at it before sending a replacement. Sent it, but still haven't recieved word back or a new filter. Have a feeling its gonna be one of those situations where I take my $$$ and burn it in front of my face

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EDIT: Perrin wasn't the ones that dropped the ball on this. My filter was 'misplaced' by ups and I have recieved it back, sending it out to perrin on monday

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Old 11-11-2004, 04:47 PM   #44
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Do you Guys have a new bumper beam to fit the the 02+ fmic. I have had your FMIC on for about a year now and always wished that the bumper beam fit properly to the 02+, I know that it is made for the 04s but when I purchased mine I was told it would fit no problem. I did get it to fit and it looks great, but The bumper skin is extremely loose and could use the fasteners on top to help secure the top of the bumper.

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yeah i bought mine from JSC Speed, was told it was made to fit an '04 but could be 'slighly' modified to fit an '02, less the fog lamps... i knew for a fact (in my mind anyways) before purchasing that that was a loaded answer... "slight" is quite a relative term... it took me 16 hours, two days off of work to install.... i think i could do it again in about 7 hours... my bumper cover is mounted solid as it used to be... not flimsey at all... but you've got to put in the time on that thing to get it on there right... you DO lose the 5 or 6 fasteners across the top/front of the skin, which can really be looked at as some of the major fastening pieces... but i used literal nuts and bolts to fasten it to the fenders on the side behind the plastic fender wells, and i you should have been able to keep the fastener holes behind the side grill pieces (the pieces next to your headlamps)... so i think a good bit of diligence and a little creativety can go a long way here.... you would never know my bumper cover is missing those 5 or 6 fasteners w/out pushing on it with your hand...

i think people need to understand... there is no such thing as a straight 'drop in' front mount intercooler... you're talking serious modification and cramming a big part in a small space, EXPECT difficulties with fitment and expect to spend some time and extra effort to get it in there just right... spend the time... it can fit and work nicely... just the same for perrin, i know the aps and the new txs are also difficult in fitment on more levels than 1 and the txs i heard is even off-center??? you want an easy intercooler upgrade, go top mount...

perrin, one suggestion on piping for the front mounts (polished aluminum piping by-the-way is what sold me on your intercooler over the aps annoying crinkle red)... the pipes could use a bracket on each to hard-mount the pipes to the intake manifold or someplace in the engine bay... just a thought.

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Old 11-11-2004, 04:50 PM   #45
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Ok, I was going to install my Red Perrin inlet tube yesterday but It was getting dark and I didnt think I could finish before it got dark so I started to put everything back on. One question... The BOV return hose clamp is inverted on my car (05 STI) and I cant seem to get it off. Any ideas? Also, My turbo inlet hose, on the side that connects to the MAF side.. there is a metal ring. The silicon seems to have separted a little bit from the metal.. is this normal? It looks like it is connected on the inside of the tube but I would say that it is separted about halfway of the lenth of the tube. Any ideas? Thanks
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Old 11-11-2004, 04:55 PM   #46
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Yet another one for a step up on the inlet hose quality.

- It fit my IHI VF34 with some work... the ID where the pipe actually connects to the turbo could probably stand to be a few mm larger, but with some alcohol and a lot of stretching/swearing it went on.
You should try fitting it onto a turbo with a 1" larger inlet, like mine! I had to custom-make my own tools to get it to go. But I certainly can't blame Perrin for that.

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Old 11-11-2004, 05:01 PM   #47
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Well, I have a bunch of perrin products on my car. Catback exhaust, all of the various hoses they sell etc. I had bought a perrin intake a little while ago. Had it on for a day and noticed high egts, looked at the filter and the rubber boot had a tear in it. So I emailed and they said send it in so they could look at it before sending a replacement. Sent it, but still haven't recieved word back or a new filter. Have a feeling its gonna be one of those situations where I take my $$$ and burn it in front of my face

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Why don't you call them.Poo-poo happens and sometimes you have to be assertive to get what you want.I don't always expext things to work out perfectly evry time.Computers crash,emails accidentaly get deleted,zip codes get screwed up...stuff happens.Call them and see whats up.
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Old 11-11-2004, 05:36 PM   #48
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Jon-RIWRX: WE certainly apologize for any problem you may have had. You mention you sent the item back for inspection. If so what is the RMA#? These are required and every customer service rep gives one out when they ok an item to be sent back for any reason. Also, how did you send it? When? Where did you send it (We moved again in the past several months.) We want to help you. If it is a warranty problem we will replace it no charge and send it back to you for free! Call us so we can get this fixed for you.

RexRonald: Thanks for the feedback as always. I hope you understand that we (PERRIN) did not market this part to the 02 cars initially. Once the proper mods had been made to the bumper beam we now feel confident about the quality of the install. You do bring up some good points about time and PITA to install any front mount. The 02/03 car is also more difficult than the 04+ because of minor changes to the front fascia and surrounding sheet metal. I agree your second install on any 02-05 model would be significantly shortened. I will check on the mounts for the pipes as well. It was discussed and (I swear) some of them had that. I will check and let you know! Thanks again.

caryfd227: Sorry to hear the clamp is being a PITA. Couple suggestions. Save the return hose at all costs. Forget the factory inlet tube. Use a hack saw and saw off the plastic at the inlet tube, break it off, use a dremel and CAREFULLY cut the top portion of the spring clamp to release it. WE have also had much success with -/ shaped plyers. They can get in and under there to release it. Also, the aluminum coupler is not part of the hose. When you install and tighten the clamp it then secured. You will need to remove it to get it into the car. Hope that helps.

big_adventure: Thank you.

dumdum: Thanks to you too!

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Old 11-11-2004, 06:07 PM   #49
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I got a fmic about 2 weeks ago, used, on ebay. It didnt come with instructions as I expected. Emailed you guys asking for installation instructions at this address INFO@PERRINPERFORMANCE.COM and never received a reply. I would appreciate it if you could email me some detailed instructions for the 02 at Uncer1@aol.com
I also have your short ram intake, like it very much and plan to buy your short throw shifter soon.

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Old 11-11-2004, 06:53 PM   #50
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So this CAI won't mess with the MAF reading? I have a COBB stage 2, looking at this as a potential.
http://www.scoobytuner.com/products/?&productID=52

What kind of gains in power can I expect with a 02 cobb stage 2, GP Moto intercooler hoses, scoobysport up, down, 3rd cat delete pipe, factory mid pipe and STI aftermarket muffer?
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