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Old 11-11-2004, 06:05 PM   #51
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Uncer1@aol.com: We did e-mail the instructions but the file size was rejected by aol.com. Please provide a fax number or snail mail address and we would be HAPPY to send you a set no charge!

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Old 11-11-2004, 06:10 PM   #52
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So this CAI won't mess with the MAF reading? I have a COBB stage 2, looking at this as a potential.
http://www.scoobytuner.com/products/?&productID=52

What kind of gains in power can I expect with a 02 cobb stage 2, GP Moto intercooler hoses, scoobysport up, down, 3rd cat delete pipe, factory mid pipe and STI aftermarket muffer?

but just generally speaking about intakes... my experience has been that changes in intakes often times creates changes in the way the car runs... it may not be something you can feel or pick up by just driving...

but monitoring EGT's and logging data with the utec, i have certainly made a couple of intake changes here and there and the difference in EGT and run quality has seen substantial... i would suggest, from experience, i noticed the biggest change when going from a straight intake piece (no bends in the intake pipe prior to the maf sensor), then i installed a 90 degree curve prior to the maf... and all of a sudden HUGE egt spikes up to and over 900C, when was previously running at max 800C.... (i know this has been disucssed at length before on here)

just a heads up, try not to make major intake changes w/out the means to make tuning adjustments as needed, or get a tuned reflash after the changes... not all intake changes will have this effect, but they certainly can depending on what you change from, and what you change to...
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Old 11-11-2004, 06:43 PM   #53
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How about new products? I'd like to see an inlet hose that is larger for the larger turbos that seem to be getting popular - maybe add a 1/4" or so to the entire assembly?

What about power packages? Staged, dyno proven packages, complete with ECUtek or Hydra? Or possibly showing the actual gain per part in HP (ie add an inlet hose on a stock car, get 5whp. Add the part to a green equipped car and pickup 15whp).

Seems as though as long as we have the ear of a designer, we should be putting forth ideas!
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Old 11-11-2004, 06:51 PM   #54
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From what I have seen, none of the three components in the Perrin I/C Hose Kit are offered individually. Is a Perrin silicone I/C to TB connector hose available seperately?

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Old 11-11-2004, 07:02 PM   #55
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im getting a perrin divorced gate downpipe and i was wondering if it will mate up with the stock catback and stock gaskets
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Old 11-11-2004, 07:08 PM   #56
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RexRonald: I hope that when you mention "not to speak specifically to PERRIN™ intakes" you mean that ours don't adversely raise EGT? My point is that as was previously mentioned the MAF placement as well as the pipe diameter are crutial to proper air flow readings to the ECU. If either the intake is wrong (as is mainly the case) and or the ECU has been tuned for an intake that was produced wrong you can run into EGT gains from too lean or grossly too rich situations. Also, someone mentioned about parts mismatch. This is another example of that.

Our intake is designed to replicate the proper MAF readings to the ECU and the HP and TRQ gains come from the reduction of intake restriction. If the HYDRA, UTEC, ECUTEK, etc., are tuned for the stock intake box then the addition of the PERRIN™ intake will work and show a gain. The ECU has to have atmospheric compensation for altitude, temperature, filter cleanliness etc. If it doesn't it would be running at a dangerous A/F anytime other than the exact conditions for which it was programmed. Agreed, if the MAF signal is wrong, then of course you can have an issue. This shouldn't happen with the PERRIN™ intake system.

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Old 11-11-2004, 07:33 PM   #57
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Darth Chicken: Thanks for the suggestions! We actually have a "BIG TURBO" inlet hose series for larger (although std. mounted) turbos. They are putting the final details on the item at this point. Expect to see it included on our new website later this month. Shippable items will be available around the first of the year.

Coincidentally, we have staged systems (that will utilize proprietary EcuTek reflashes) being released at the same time. We are doing this to help customers achieve specific levels of tune with the convenience of one stop shopping. More details coming soon!

HagWag: Not yet. I will see what we may be able to do for you. If you need something now contact us directly.

boardertj: Yes it will work fine. Follow the included instructions to explain how to do so! Thanks for your purchase!

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Old 11-12-2004, 10:27 AM   #58
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Rexronald, thanks for the reply. I have had experience in the past with CAI as well, but earlier in the thread, Perrin said that it won't give your maf screwed up readings. That's the new thing for me here, since we all know that most CAI are junk when it comes to doing anything positive for power gains. Well, Perrin verified it for me, so I'm gonna see if I can get my hands on one of their CAI and see what happens.
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Old 11-12-2004, 03:05 PM   #59
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Darth Chicken: Thanks for the suggestions! We actually have a "BIG TURBO" inlet hose series for larger (although std. mounted) turbos. They are putting the final details on the item at this point. Expect to see it included on our new website later this month. Shippable items will be available around the first of the year.

Coincidentally, we have staged systems (that will utilize proprietary EcuTek reflashes) being released at the same time. We are doing this to help customers achieve specific levels of tune with the convenience of one stop shopping. More details coming soon!

HagWag: Not yet. I will see what we may be able to do for you. If you need something now contact us directly.

boardertj: Yes it will work fine. Follow the included instructions to explain how to do so! Thanks for your purchase!

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Old 11-12-2004, 05:37 PM   #60
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Perrin,

Quick question for ya. I ordered a rear sway bar from a vendor online and there was no grease for the bushings when it arrived. Now in the directions, it says apply provided grease generously on the bushings to prevent squeeking. Is this necessary? Can I get some?

Also I wanted some stickers that I thought came with the bar too! Any help with this too?

Thanks
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Old 11-12-2004, 05:54 PM   #61
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Assuming that your bar was "factory sealed" the grease would have been in the same clear packaging as the sway bar bushings and clamps. Also, the decals should have been with the instructions, warranty card, etc.

If both are missing I would suspect that it had been opened. Regardless, we will get you taken care of. Simply send an e-mail to tech@perrinperformance.com with all your information along with the place you originally purchased the item from and when. We will send you the stuff you need and a plate framr for the trouble!

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Old 11-12-2004, 08:33 PM   #62
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Thanks Perrin!

I knew you guys rocked! This is not the first and will not be the last perrin product I purchase.
As far as the package. The mounts and stuff came in a small white box and the bar came with the small box in a larger one. The boxes were labeled Perrin, and didnt look as though they had been opened. I got the plate frame, warantee card, etc... just no lube and no stickers!

Thanks again, will email you tomorrow!
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Old 11-13-2004, 09:41 AM   #63
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Perrin,
I noticed that your website has a pic of a mazda speed protege on it. Are you guys in underdevelopemnt of some protege parts? I have a couple of your parts for my wrx and was pleased with the quality and was looking for some pieces for my friends car and I was reccommending parts from u guys if you had any.
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Old 11-14-2004, 06:19 PM   #64
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BTW, this is what installation instructions should look like:

http://www.hotchkistuning.com/bin/in...ions/19406.pdf
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:31 PM   #65
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I keep the U frame cover off my wrx as my perrin positive steering system keeps woeking loose. The instructions said to detatch the control arms but the printing was so small we missed it. (did it in the evening) Any fix

Also I had the Injen C A I installed at Alta back in late 02 at your reccomednation (Adam Taft's). Now I am putting in a 2.5 shortblock as my #4 cylinder lost compression. Could the Injen CAI contributed to the failure? I just do not want to trash the new motor.

Cheers
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PS: Does Jeff Perrin ever handle any of the Perrin responses as I know him to be the one who designs the Perrin products. Or am I wrong?
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:44 PM   #66
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Though they will probably add zero HP, the first company that makes bigger/better plug wires for the WRX/STi will make a KILLING. Something to think about Perrin!
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Old 11-15-2004, 12:16 AM   #67
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I have a Perrin 321 Uppipe. It bolted up great and I have had no issues with leaks. Great product!

How similar are Perrin and Progress? Many of the parts look identical. Are they from the same manufacturer but sold under different names?
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Old 11-15-2004, 12:28 AM   #68
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Though they will probably add zero HP, the first company that makes bigger/better plug wires for the WRX/STi will make a KILLING. Something to think about Perrin!
You'd have to do the entire harness, the plug wires are part of it. Which.... while expensive would definitely add some bling to the engine, LOL!
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Old 11-15-2004, 12:42 AM   #69
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Were the Perrin springs designed with stock struts or stiffer struts in mind?
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Old 11-15-2004, 11:57 AM   #70
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Gfunk720: Will get you stuff going today!

Sevaru: The website is being updated right now. We have a complete line of parts for the MSP available now, they include, turbo back exhaust, HUGE FMIC kit, short shifter, fuel rails, intakes, endlinks, lightened crank pulley, etc. more information coming soon to the website or check out www.msprotege.com for customers that have already purchased and posted pictures there.

jblaine: Thanks as always for your suggestions.

unkadave: (Mr Dyson) We were unaware that this was your screen name. As you are well aware you are breaking the implicit instruction of both the Beaverton and Eugene Police Department by contacting us in anyway shape or form. As always we regret that the threats you placed against our employees preclude further discussion here.

As previously mentioned that intake may have caused an issue, contact the manufacturer directly. Also, thank you for the complements about our design work. WE work hard to produce quality, worthwhile upgrades. Contact your retailer on the PSRS question. That is NOT a common problem.

Unabomber: We wish we could. But as Darth mentioned they are direct fire ignition systems without plug wires.

Zanderspeed: Thanks for your compliment! Our bars were designed and tested in house by PERRIN™ performance. No outside engineering was done. Our current swaybars are produced here in Portland Oregon. Other than bushings, nothing is outsourced outside our area. Thanks!

Santofontana: They were designed to work with stock dampers although they can certainly be used with quality aftermarket choices. The ride quality is improved over stock, while still maintaining performance handling attributes when necessary. This is especially important when upgrading to plus sized wheels and tires. Hope that helps. Thanks for asking.

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Old 11-15-2004, 12:22 PM   #71
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Perrin=] unkadave: (Mr Dyson) We were unaware that this was your screen name. As you are well aware you are breaking the implicit instruction of both the Beaverton and Eugene Police Department by contacting us in anyway shape or form. As always we regret that the threats you placed against our employees preclude further discussion here.

As previously mentioned that intake may have caused an issue, contact the manufacturer directly. Also, thank you for the complements about our design work. WE work hard to produce quality, worthwhile upgrades. Contact your retailer on the PSRS question. That is NOT a common problem.
Sure you are aware. you have said this about me before. Printed out my screen name with real name and address, and invited people to come up and look at your pumped up documentation, etc. I wrote it off as you wanting to not do customer service. I am getting tired of the threats though.

I really was hoping for a better reaction from you.

PS. I really liked all the guys that worked at Alta. You are the only one who lied to me, and then told me to beat it. Had to have a shop in Eugene fix the Ultra loud exhaust you put on. I was hoping you would be more courteous and professional.

Go ahead and post all the dirt if you want. You already did once.

Eugene Police Dept. Please.
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Old 11-15-2004, 12:24 PM   #72
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Does H&R make Perrin springs?

With a 1.9"/1.5" drop will I need a camber kit?

I plan on using Koni yellows with Perrin springs.

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What are the advantages of a linear spring over progressive?
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Sure you are aware. you have said this about me before. Printed out my screen name with real name and address, and invited people to come up and look at your pumped up documentation, etc. I wrote it off as you wanting to not do customer service. I am getting tired of the threats though.

I really was hoping for a better reaction from you.

PS. I really liked all the guys that worked at Alta. You are the only one who lied to me, and then told me to beat it. Had to have a shop in Eugene fix the Ultra loud exhaust you put on. I was hoping you would be more courteous and professional.

Go ahead and post all the dirt if you want. You already did once.

Eugene Police Dept. Please.
You are trying to blame Perrin as well as a CAI that they dont even make for losing compression in old reliable #4? I know I dont know the details of the transaction or whatever it was, but post it in the vendor review. They are kind enough to have a thread to handle our queries, the last thing they need is asshats like you attacking them in it. Atleast tell us the story and the rest of your mods rather than just jumping in with irrelevant nonesense.

If they do indeed have restraining orders out against you I would stop posting. I hear the mods dont like law breakers.
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Old 11-15-2004, 05:14 PM   #75
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I was asking about an Injen CAI that Alta (Adam Taft) reccomended, sold and installed for me. Then he came with the other stuff. If you will go back and read there was no accusations. As for calling me an azzhat. Go right ahead on it. I'm not into attacking anyone. He said he will not address it so that should be enough said for you also. All right.
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