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Old 11-10-2004, 06:12 PM   #1
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Default Anyone heard of or use Toyo Proxes?

Hey guys, I've been doing some googling about what tires to get for an sti and have seen a lot of guys on the evolution forums using toyo proxes. Anyone else have experience with them in weather? I've seen a lot of guys here using falkens and pirelli... don't hear much about toyo's.
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Old 11-10-2004, 07:33 PM   #2
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Which Proxes? There are bunch of Toyos with that designation.
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Old 11-10-2004, 07:46 PM   #3
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Proxy 4 looks pretty interesting...
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Old 11-10-2004, 08:20 PM   #4
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I use proxes f1s's or whatever they are called. they are very nice tires... great for both dry and wet conditions...
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Old 11-10-2004, 09:51 PM   #5
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im getting the proxes 4s tomorrow. ill tell you what i think. 215/45 r17 by the way
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Old 11-10-2004, 10:43 PM   #6
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Proxes 4 are one of the best all-season tires you can get(currently have them on my car, and love them). Of course, they'll be a pretty dramatic step down from the stock tires in both grip and sidewall stiffness. If you'd tell us where you live, or at least the general climate, we can probably determine which tire in the Proxes line would be best for you.
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Old 11-10-2004, 11:06 PM   #7
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Old 11-11-2004, 03:20 AM   #8
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anyone try the toyo ra-1 ? heard these tires where very good , closest that we can get to a r-compound tire , here in the u.s. that is .
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Old 11-11-2004, 04:19 AM   #9
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The RA-1s are racing compound and are excellent. SCC did a competiton with Tuned WRXs vs STI. The RA-1s managed to give one of the WRXs an edge of the sti on handling.
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Old 11-11-2004, 04:22 AM   #10
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TheToyo proxes RA1 are great. There work in all weather, but be careful w/ alot of water.

The treads are soft and may not last long is always driving agressively.

I understand that the Pirelli Corsa are on par with the RA1.

But if you are really looking for streat tires, get the Bridgestone Potenza S03. As there wear, there grip better, unlike the other tires, which looses their grip
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Old 11-11-2004, 06:28 PM   #11
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TheToyo proxes RA1 are great. There work in all weather, but be careful w/ alot of water.
No, they don't work at all in ice, snow, or very cold temperatures.
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Old 11-11-2004, 07:32 PM   #12
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There are not snow tires. We all know that. Get snow tires for that.
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Old 11-11-2004, 09:41 PM   #13
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I've been on my FZ4's for the last 30,000 miles. I see no reason to change them, even with winter setting in around here. Wet performance was excellent for the first 15,000 miles. Now they break loose kinda easily in the rain. Dry performace is average for a high-performance all-season. They're as good in the snow as a new set of RE-92's, but they wear a lot better, so you can get 3 full winters out of them. They're a good replacement for the RE-92's, but there are better tires out there (for a price).
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Old 11-11-2004, 10:06 PM   #14
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Please visit Tire Rack.

I am a Bridgestone fanatic and there do work well. There have wonderful technology in them.

Keeps your ride safe.

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Old 11-11-2004, 10:06 PM   #15
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I had proxes (p1s maybe?)a few years ago on a E36 BMW, and was very happy with them.
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Old 11-11-2004, 11:07 PM   #16
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I've been on my FZ4's for the last 30,000 miles. I see no reason to change them, even with winter setting in around here. Wet performance was excellent for the first 15,000 miles. Now they break loose kinda easily in the rain. Dry performace is average for a high-performance all-season. They're as good in the snow as a new set of RE-92's, but they wear a lot better, so you can get 3 full winters out of them. They're a good replacement for the RE-92's, but there are better tires out there (for a price).
The Proxes 4's are a brand new ultra-high performance all season tire, and the consensus is that they are worlds superior to the older FZ4s. However, there aren't too many reviews out there yet on Nasioc; there are some detailed reviews on wrxfanatics.com. Edgeracing.com has the cheapest prices on these tires. Unfortunately, Tire Rack doesn't carry Toyos.
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Old 11-12-2004, 01:44 AM   #17
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My last set of tires were Toyo Proxes T1-S, and I currently have a set of Proxes 4.

Data on the T1-S should be pretty easy to find, as they have been around a while and used on many higher performance cars. See Mike Shield's tires page for a better description than I can provide:

SPD USA Wheel & Tire Page

The Proxes 4 is a T1-S casing with a different tread pattern and rubber compound, and carries an "M+S" rating. The compund is slightly harder, and the tread has W shaped blocks instead of the T1-S's V grooves. The tread pattern works very well for water evacuation. I have driven on the T1-S in snow, but not the 4's. I'd do it again without hesitation, but I hear you're not supposed to.

The feel and ride in normal driving is indistinguishable from the T1-S. As you approach the limit of adhesion, the Proxes 4 requires more steering input for a given corner, and my GTech tells me that the T1-S has a limit that is higher by ~.02-.03G. Both are very predictable and easy to feel when driven hard.

Both are among the lightest tires in any given size, but this is partly due to a sidewall that is rounder and not as stiff as some performance benchmarks like the Falken Azenis RT-215 (my weekend tires) or the Bridgestone S03 (which I've never owned).

If you're looking for a capable summer like tire that doesn't suck in the winter, the Proxes 4 might be good. If you only get a little snow, and the roads are plowed when you drive, the T1-S would be a better match for the STi.

Having said all that, I might use either one on an STi as a winter tire, but I'd get a different brand with a STIFF sidewall for the other 3 seasons.
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Old 11-12-2004, 02:16 AM   #18
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I am getting the Toyo proxes 4 tomorrow too, I will post impressions. I am coming from bald re-92's so Im sure ill be happy.

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Old 11-12-2004, 08:27 AM   #19
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Please visit Tire Rack.

I am a Bridgestone fanatic and there do work well have wonder technology in them.

Keep your ride safe.
"Wonder technology"? Is that a new feature to be listed next to the rest of the UNI-T AQ ABCDEFG crap they list out for every tire?

Bridgestones... now with WONDER TECHNOLOGY! Best tire evAr!!1!1


I like Bridgestones too, don't get me wrong... in my opinion the Potenza RE950 is one of the most underrated tires ever.
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Old 11-12-2004, 11:50 AM   #20
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i also have the proxes 4. i've had them for about 10k miles, and love them. great traction, quiet (no noticeable increase over the stock potenza's), and i LOVE the look of the tread. we don't get much rain out here in southern cali, but i've driven in a couple of storms so far, and wet traction hasn't been a problem. BTW, i have the 225/45/17's. good luck!
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Old 11-12-2004, 05:37 PM   #21
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i use proxes too, i lov them, they work well in any kind of weather, rain snow or shine. they are a great tire to ride on, good luck with your choice.
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I know this doesn't matter, but how do the proxes look in 225/45/17, are they beefy looking or skinny? I have seen some 225's like falkens that look huge, and then some 225s that look skinny.


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Is that a new feature to be listed next to the rest of the UNI-T AQ ABCDEFG crap they list out for every tire?
So you make it sound like their feature listing is confusing for you and yet you spelled it right? (Unit-T AQII is current hotness )
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Old 11-13-2004, 01:15 PM   #24
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The feel and ride in normal driving is indistinguishable from the T1-S. As you approach the limit of adhesion, the Proxes 4 requires more steering input for a given corner, and my GTech tells me that the T1-S has a limit that is higher by ~.02-.03G. Both are very predictable and easy to feel when driven hard.
Thanks for the input, 2Stroke. Just how high were the numbers you recorded, anyway? I have the Proxes 4 in the 215/45-17 size on SSR Comps and would guess they are good for about 0.9 g's.
An excellent all-around tire in every respect--sharp handling (for the street), quiet ride, and even comfortable riding in colder temperatures. Best buy out there for the $$, IMO. Only question is how well they'll perform in a snowstorm (but won't be long before we find out the answer to that one..)
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Old 11-13-2004, 06:30 PM   #25
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I am also running the Toyo Proxes 4 for daily driving and I think they are a great tire. The sidewall is a bit mushy and feels floaty at speed, but bumping up the tire pressure a couple of pounds took care of that. The tread is quite grippy and looks awesome. The shoulders are rounded so the tires look a bit on the skinny side, but the tread pattern definitely makes up for it. They don't feel as stiff nor sticky as the Falken Azenis Sports, but they are a far better daily driver tire.

I don't think you can go wrong with the Proxes 4, especially if you use another tire at the track.

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