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Old 01-08-2005, 04:24 PM   #26
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Im rocking H4 singles at a 6000k light...I blind people coming at me.. do I care?? nope. I can see. These lights are the best money I ever spent.
Please post the exact times and locations when/where you will be driving, so those of us in Tri-State can avoid you.
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Old 01-09-2005, 04:43 PM   #27
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Thanks to all for the great information on the pitfalls of installing HID lamps as a retrofit. There is a great deal of hype on the web regarding bulb temp, light output, and color. If only my son would listen....
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Old 01-09-2005, 05:05 PM   #28
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Im rocking H4 singles at a 6000k light...I blind people coming at me.. do I care?? nope.
Do you not realize that oncoming cars whose drivers can't see anything because of your lights also pose a safety hazard to you, not only everyone else around you? Or does that not bother you either?

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I can see.
You can see, yes...but much less than you would with properly installed HIDs.

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These lights are the best money I ever spent.
Only if you enjoy terrible beam pattern, reduced light output, and blinding people (which you seem to).

IMHO, you chose the wrong thread to post your comments in, sidewayz.
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Old 01-09-2005, 07:00 PM   #29
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I can see.
You can also see a possible head-on collision with your car when the blinded drivers swerve to your lane.
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Old 01-28-2005, 01:11 PM   #30
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Anybody know the Kelvin degrees on the 05 STi and if anybody has tried getting a higher K bulb.
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Old 01-28-2005, 01:37 PM   #31
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It's probably already mentioned in this thread someplace, but anyway-
ALL OEM HIDs are 4100K, this of course includes the STi. Changing the OEM D2R bulbs for aftermarket ones with a higher temp rating will reduce the amount of usable light output while increasing glare and is counterproductive.
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Old 01-28-2005, 03:33 PM   #32
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great posts. thanks
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Old 01-28-2005, 08:53 PM   #33
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What base type do the EDM STi lights (2002) use? I am having a hard time finding this information.
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Old 01-28-2005, 11:05 PM   #34
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EDM STi lights are H1 low beams. Not hard to find at all, if you have them just look at the bulb. Also widely posted here and elsewhere.
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Old 01-28-2005, 11:22 PM   #35
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great info and links.....thx
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Old 02-01-2005, 06:20 PM   #36
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So if i have a MY04 WRX, and I buy a set of STi headlamps, do i need anything else? will i still have high/low? If i go aftermarket, will i still have high/low beam? Thanks.
HOw much am i looking at pricewise to get the STi parts i need to work?
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Old 02-01-2005, 08:20 PM   #37
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If you buy OEM STI HID assemblies, you will still have high-/low-beam, except your lows will now be OEM reflector-based D2R HID. Anything aftermarket you do will not affect your high-beams unless you touch them; most of the modification we talk about here for MY04 is for the low-beams, as these are separate from the high-beams in the newer models. You will have to search for prices, but it's not cheap. Generally in excess of 1000 USD all together, AFAIK.
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Old 02-28-2005, 11:20 PM   #38
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so jdm headlights are not the way to go then.....i guess im just going to add 2 more driving lights for a better light-output
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Old 03-03-2005, 05:39 PM   #39
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I am reading this thread and wondering? What is the easiest way to hook up 04 JDM HIDs. I bought them thinking they would be pretty cool. I can't figure out what the easiest way is to wire them in. Maybe I could find out what kinda plugs I need, try and find them and then splice them into my wiring harness. To top it all all off, I am doing this to an 02 WRX. Has anyone done this or know of a site that has pictures and descriptions that can walk me through the process??? I don't want to ruin a $900 pair of JDM HIDs. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Old 03-13-2005, 09:46 PM   #40
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02 subaru oem jdm sti hid, bought used one ballast is missing plug can i hard wire right to the tabs on the ballast? or how can i replace
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Old 03-17-2005, 01:08 AM   #41
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02 subaru oem jdm sti hid, bought used one ballast is missing plug can i hard wire right to the tabs on the ballast? or how can i replace
You could replace them with something that won't spray HID into oncoming traffic
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Old 03-31-2005, 12:16 AM   #42
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anyone got some pics of 01/02 sti lights vs 01/02 sti HID's?
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Old 04-15-2005, 12:40 AM   #43
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I have an issue with this FAQ. One of your last pieces of advice is to install relays. This doesn't make any sense. All Subaru headlights are already actuated by relays.
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Old 04-15-2005, 07:09 AM   #44
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All Subaru headlights are already actuated by relays.
Yes, but-
The factory setup has relays for the common headlight power on each side. The ground side is switched, w/o relays. HID's, due to their high startup current, can't be plugged directly into the OEM wiring. While it is possible to use the existing power circuit/relays with direct (chassis or battery) grounding for the HID ballasts, another option is to use battery power through external relays switched by the headlight circuit. Either way works if done properly.
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Old 04-16-2005, 11:37 PM   #45
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So, will there be an any gain adding neg side relays with stock lights?

Has anyone measured voltage drop on a WRX with stock wiring / lights?
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Old 04-17-2005, 12:50 AM   #46
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Not really HID related, but the answer is yes. I've measured the ground-side drop at around 1.5V or so which is enough to affect brightness. However with the stock lights it may not make that much difference given the limitations of the 9007 bulb design. You can certainly go ahead and try it.
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Old 04-26-2005, 02:37 AM   #47
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What brand bulbs are in the USDM STi? Just wondering if swapping to another brand of OEM D2R bulbs will change the color output. I've heard the Osram is a bit diff then Phillips and so on.
Also what would happen if you put OEM D2S bulbs in reflector housings? I think they would put out more light but would there be a bad glare? I have some spare bulbs so I was thinking I might try them and see what happens.
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Old 04-26-2005, 07:02 AM   #48
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I don't know what brand bulbs are used but it's probably either Osram or Philips. It shouldn't matter, all OEM HIDs are 4100-4300K. Using alternate bulbs with a higher color temperature will only reduce the usable light output and won't improve performance.
Don't use D2S bulbs, as you are already aware they will produce more glare. The D2R bulbs have an anti-glare mask printed on the bulb, the D2S bulbs do not.
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Old 05-04-2005, 07:19 PM   #49
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just got a CATZ kit, but heard they no longer have US dealer? Is that true? Kinds OT, but i dont even know where to start.....
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:29 PM   #50
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There are no more aftermarket HID dealers in the US as it is illegal to install them.


Well, there might be some, but none from major MFG.'s, as there's no money in it.
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