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Old 08-14-2012, 12:04 PM   #551
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+1 for TRS. They back their products and will help make it happen. They also have some rare oem projectors every now and then for the esoteric retrofit needs.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:22 AM   #552
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So after scrolling through quite a few pages, I think I'll just ask even though I'm gonna get flamed. Here's the situation: 04 USDM STi with stock hid lighting setup. I want brighter/ bluer lights. If a simple bulb replacement is the answer, where? If a retrofit is the way, what kit, and from where. I'm looking for a 6k glow more or less (yes I know 4.1-4.3k is brightest but I'm willing to sacrifice for a bit of blue hue.) obviously the brighter the better. Help please. Thanks
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:07 AM   #553
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If your car uses D2S bulbs, search for D2S 6000K 35 watt bulbs.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:31 PM   #554
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So after scrolling through quite a few pages, I think I'll just ask even though I'm gonna get flamed. Here's the situation: 04 USDM STi with stock hid lighting setup. I want brighter/ bluer lights. If a simple bulb replacement is the answer, where? If a retrofit is the way, what kit, and from where. I'm looking for a 6k glow more or less (yes I know 4.1-4.3k is brightest but I'm willing to sacrifice for a bit of blue hue.) obviously the brighter the better. Help please. Thanks
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If your car uses D2S bulbs, search for D2S 6000K 35 watt bulbs.
Yes, what CRAZYHAWK says. You don't need a kit, your car already has HIDs.
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Old 12-30-2012, 11:03 AM   #555
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Been reading and doing my research, need to know the best way to improve the brightness of my stock lamps. Night visibility leaves much to be desired.

Car: 2012 STI (stock HID's)

1. Do I simply upgrade the bulb to one of these?


Philips - http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=148

Osram Xenarc - http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...ducts_id=10591

2. Can / Should I upgrade to 55w ballasts and 55w bulbs? Does an upgrade like this only require new ballasts and bulbs on a pre-HID equipped car?

55w ballasts - http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=163
55w bulbs - http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=240

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Old 12-30-2012, 11:58 AM   #556
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Been reading and doing my research, need to know the best way to improve the brightness of my stock lamps. Night visibility leaves much to be desired.

Car: 2012 STI (stock HID's)

1. Do I simply upgrade the bulb to one of these?


Philips - http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=148

Osram Xenarc - http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...ducts_id=10591

2. Can / Should I upgrade to 55w ballasts and 55w bulbs? Does an upgrade like this only require new ballasts and bulbs on a pre-HID equipped car?

55w ballasts - http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=163
55w bulbs - http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=240

Thanks for taking the time to respond.
I'm surprised by your complaint about the light coming from your headlights. I have the reflector type HID in my STi, and the light pattern produced is really phenomenal. My wife's '08 WRX has halogen projectors and when equipped with the silverstars are also very good.
On to your problem, the 55W system would probably be your best bet for getting more light.
Wire filament bulbs are made brighter by essentially putting an 11VDC bulb in a 12VDC socket, longevity suffers, but they are much brighter.
I don't believe this works with HIDs, you need more wattage to get brighter.
Read the buyers guide from the links you used:
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#2. in the ballast section, Wattage has your answer.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:09 PM   #557
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I'm surprised by your complaint about the light coming from your headlights. I have the reflector type HID in my STi, and the light pattern produced is really phenomenal. My wife's '08 WRX has halogen projectors and when equipped with the silverstars are also very good.
On to your problem, the 55W system would probably be your best bet for getting more light.
Wire filament bulbs are made brighter by essentially putting an 11VDC bulb in a 12VDC socket, longevity suffers, but they are much brighter.
I don't believe this works with HIDs, you need more wattage to get brighter.
Read the buyers guide from the links you used:
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#2. in the ballast section, Wattage has your answer.
Driving in the snow last night was abysmal, I could hardly see anything. Same with rain or overly dark nights.

I went ahead and purchased the following (I already read all the info on TRS, very informative btw):

New Osram Xenarc 66240 CBI Bulbs: http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...ducts_id=10591

These bulbs have higher lumens than stock. Worst case, I can still upgrade to 55w ballasts at a later date if I feel I need more.

I also picked up an OEM foglight kit and a Morimoto Elite HID System (3000K) for the fogs.

The combination should solve my visibility issues in bad weather.

Thanks for the help.
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Old 12-30-2012, 10:36 PM   #558
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Driving in the snow last night was abysmal, I could hardly see anything. Same with rain or overly dark nights.
One thing that makes it hard to determine in bad weather, is that the retroreflectivity nature of the road practically disappears, and turns much more into a mirror. What this means is when under normal condition, a certain fraction of the light from your car gets reflected back to you, less of this amount is reflected back in inclement weather. However, the amount that gets bounced off the surface increases, just like a mirror. This amounts to glare to others.

If the lighting setup you have is already near optimal before, any attempt to increase light output (e.g. higher power ballast) won't provide much of a difference when judged by how much the road seem to be lit from the driver's pov. Other vehicles however, may notice it much more (albeit in a negative way).

What you may want to do is to find the projector that provides the best beam spread for inclement conditions. Whichever that can allow you to see objects on the road better, but not necessarily the road, is what you need. Something with less distance and more width, with minimal foreground lighting. Sounds like I'm talking about the halogen version of Hella Micro DE foglights.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:15 PM   #559
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I'm looking to install HIDs on my 2012 Impreza and I was wondering from those who did it already, did you have to do any drilling? Also, is there a good tutorial out there and if so could you send me a link?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:39 PM   #560
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I'm looking to install HIDs on my 2012 Impreza and I was wondering from those who did it already, did you have to do any drilling? Also, is there a good tutorial out there and if so could you send me a link?

Thanks in advance.
Your best bet is to install OEM HID projectors as used in the Impreza WRX Limited or the STi. This is the more costly route, but it ends up just being a headlamp assembly swap. The only additional thing you'll need to do is add a switch to control the leveling motors. The switch fits in the blank on the left side of the instrument panel next to the dimmer control for the gauge lighting.

Another thing you could do, though there is some work involved by taking apart the headlamp housing (discussed elsewhere in this and other threads) and retrofitting the halogen projectors of your Impreza with Acura TRS or TL projectors. These in my opinion provide a much better distribution of light and give more light output with the 35 watt D2S bulbs than the stock Subaru HID projectors do. I had a 2011 WRX with stock HID projectors (these produced a fair amount of stray light above the cutoff and therefore, a fair amount of glare) and have seen much better light output with less glare to oncoming traffic from some HID kit installations into Imprezas and Outbacks. I recommend against doing this last thing; you'll most likely get flamed on this forum for doing so, and it is not legal in most, if not all states, to install HID light sources in headlamp assemblies designed for halogen light sources.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:58 AM   #561
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Your best bet is to install OEM HID projectors as used in the Impreza WRX Limited or the STi. This is the more costly route, but it ends up just being a headlamp assembly swap. The only additional thing you'll need to do is add a switch to control the leveling motors. The switch fits in the blank on the left side of the instrument panel next to the dimmer control for the gauge lighting.

Another thing you could do, though there is some work involved by taking apart the headlamp housing (discussed elsewhere in this and other threads) and retrofitting the halogen projectors of your Impreza with Acura TRS or TL projectors. These in my opinion provide a much better distribution of light and give more light output with the 35 watt D2S bulbs than the stock Subaru HID projectors do. I had a 2011 WRX with stock HID projectors (these produced a fair amount of stray light above the cutoff and therefore, a fair amount of glare) and have seen much better light output with less glare to oncoming traffic from some HID kit installations into Imprezas and Outbacks. I recommend against doing this last thing; you'll most likely get flamed on this forum for doing so, and it is not legal in most, if not all states, to install HID light sources in headlamp assemblies designed for halogen light sources.
Considering all the crap lighting I see on the roadways around Houston today, his would be nothing. The worst offenders are the ass holes who have the jacked-up 4X4s with crazy headlights, and outrageous fog lights. They blind the hell out of you. Almost every pickup here has to have some type of faux HID headlights that drive me . I wish police would cite them. They never do.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:11 AM   #562
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Driving in the snow last night was abysmal, I could hardly see anything. Same with rain or overly dark nights.

No one single headlamp is good in the snow and rain. You're not going to change that much with a new bulb and higher brightness (higher glare in rainy conditions). Hell, I had to pull over off I-95 into the shoulder yesterday and brush off the iced snow off my headlamp, because the huge, wet snow covered my headlamp and the HID bulb wasn't hot enough to melt the snow off. You're only going to get what you want if you install some other auxiliary mounted driving light like satrya said.

I went ahead and purchased the following (I already read all the info on TRS, very informative btw):

New Osram Xenarc 66240 CBI Bulbs: http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...ducts_id=10591

These bulbs have higher lumens than stock.

Debatable. The real reason people buy these is that they at the least equal the lumens of 4300k current state of the art at their 5000-5500k color. The extra 300 lumens (if it does exist) is just icing on the cake. However, it's not really worth the $185 unless you were going for the white color.

Worst case, I can still upgrade to 55w ballasts at a later date if I feel I need more.

Please don't. You don't need 55W ballasts. You'll also have to hack up your headlamp to wire them in because there are no OEM 55W Matsu****a ballasts.

You'll also burn your brand new $185 bulbs out much, much quicker.

I also picked up an OEM foglight kit and a Morimoto Elite HID System (3000K) for the fogs.

HID kits do not belong in those craptastic reflector based fog lamps. You want a better performing fog? Retrofit. I installed Ford fog lamps into my stock location with a bit of custom work. Here is a picture of my retrofit with H11 halogen (yes, halogen) bulbs.




The combination should solve my visibility issues in bad weather.

Thanks for the help.

If you want a better performing projector, buy the TRS supplied TSX-R lenses and swap them into your projector. They'll provide you with a better cutoff and slightly better beam brightness/spread.

Here are pictures of my STi projector swap with TSX-R lenses, OEM 35W Matsu****a ballasts and 85122+ bulbs.




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Your best bet is to install OEM HID projectors as used in the Impreza WRX Limited or the STi. This is the more costly route, but it ends up just being a headlamp assembly swap. The only additional thing you'll need to do is add a switch to control the leveling motors. The switch fits in the blank on the left side of the instrument panel next to the dimmer control for the gauge lighting.
He has a 2012 Impreza. There are no OEM projector-based HID options. He will have to retrofit, most likely using an Morimoto Mini H1, as another member here has done, or he will have to buy the Canadian-spec HID reflector headlamps.

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Old 03-26-2013, 07:18 AM   #563
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I'll just drop this here. This is a comparison I put together when I performed my STi projector retrofit into my WRX headlamps.

The WRX projector shots are with the Squirrel Finder bent down, so this isn't even representative of the total amount of glare you get when it's not bent (which is atrocious).

Also, the STi projector has the Squirrel Finder up, which I subsequently bent down after this test collage.

This, people, is why HID kits, even in halogen projectors, do not work.

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Old 04-22-2013, 02:42 PM   #564
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Someone had a 2012 or 2013 retrofit thread with the hawkeye lights. I can't find it, anyone know what I'm talking about?
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Old 04-24-2013, 01:46 PM   #565
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Your best bet is to install OEM HID projectors as used in the Impreza WRX Limited or the STi. This is the more costly route, but it ends up just being a headlamp assembly swap. The only additional thing you'll need to do is add a switch to control the leveling motors. The switch fits in the blank on the left side of the instrument panel next to the dimmer control for the gauge lighting.

Another thing you could do, though there is some work involved by taking apart the headlamp housing (discussed elsewhere in this and other threads) and retrofitting the halogen projectors of your Impreza with Acura TRS or TL projectors. These in my opinion provide a much better distribution of light and give more light output with the 35 watt D2S bulbs than the stock Subaru HID projectors do. I had a 2011 WRX with stock HID projectors (these produced a fair amount of stray light above the cutoff and therefore, a fair amount of glare) and have seen much better light output with less glare to oncoming traffic from some HID kit installations into Imprezas and Outbacks. I recommend against doing this last thing; you'll most likely get flamed on this forum for doing so, and it is not legal in most, if not all states, to install HID light sources in headlamp assemblies designed for halogen light sources.
I have a 2010 STI Special Edition so no HIDS for me =(. I just purchased a pair of headlamps from a regular STI that come complete with ballasts, bulb, igniter, leveling motor etc. I also purchased the switch to control the bulbs that goes next to the dimmer. How do I get the switch to work? Are all the wires in my car already? And what do I plug into the headlamps that give me control? Pictures would be great. Thanks!
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I have a 2010 STI Special Edition so no HIDS for me =(. I just purchased a pair of headlamps from a regular STI that come complete with ballasts, bulb, igniter, leveling motor etc. I also purchased the switch to control the bulbs that goes next to the dimmer. How do I get the switch to work? Are all the wires in my car already? And what do I plug into the headlamps that give me control? Pictures would be great. Thanks!
All the wires should already be in the car (as everything else is already wired in all cars for things like fog lamps, etc). If you take the panel off the driver side of the dash (which is covered by the door when closed) you'll probably find what you're looking for.
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All the wires should already be in the car (as everything else is already wired in all cars for things like fog lamps, etc). If you take the panel off the driver side of the dash (which is covered by the door when closed) you'll probably find what you're looking for.
Cool. And when I install the headlamps, there is something underneath the hood that plugs into the motor for the leveler?
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Cool. And when I install the headlamps, there is something underneath the hood that plugs into the motor for the leveler?
I have no experience with that, so I'm just assuming... but it probably is already connected through the headlamp harness, which connects to the car's harness the same way the WRX headlamp does.
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I have no experience with that, so I'm just assuming... but it probably is already connected through the headlamp harness, which connects to the car's harness the same way the WRX headlamp does.
hmmm... I hope so. That would make sense. The only thing that I see is that it looks like something plugs into the leveling motor itself, something that the halogen one doesnt have....
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hmmm... I hope so. That would make sense. The only thing that I see is that it looks like something plugs into the leveling motor itself, something that the halogen one doesnt have....
Yes, but i think the STi headlamp harness has that plug built in to the harness. If you're getting a whole headlamp with the harness intact you should be fine.
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Just bought a 2013 wrx limited. Does anyone drive around with the hids on at all times? I like the look of them on during the day time. How much quicker will they burn out? Is it bad for the ballast?
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:27 AM   #572
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You just take the life out of the entire system. The ballast are designed to last the lifetime of the car, but the bulbs are not. They last roughly 2500+ hours, and they cost about 100 bucks for brand new ones. It's truly up to you at this point.
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:55 AM   #573
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Just bought a 2013 wrx limited. Does anyone drive around with the hids on at all times? I like the look of them on during the day time. How much quicker will they burn out? Is it bad for the ballast?
....how much longer do you think they would last if they're on all of the time? No one can give you an exact # of hours but it stands to reason leaving them on constantly (including turning them on/off every time you start/shut off the car) will have a much greater impact on their life vs. using them only when necessary.

In either case, it may look cool to you but I'll wager most will simply think you left your lights on. ....and besides, you'll never see them when you're driving during the day. HIDs are nothing unique or special.
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Yea true
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