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Old 12-12-2005, 04:29 PM   #76
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I have my morettes and the HID are on the way will it be an easy swap to just add the HID portion?
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:40 PM   #77
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:42 PM   #78
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define "HID on the way".

Do you mean you've got a projector, ballast ignitor, bulb, harness?

Or do you have a bulb and a ballast and an ignitor, and dont know how to put them together?

or what?
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:50 PM   #79
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i think he meant bulb, ballast, and ignitor. as long as you have the H7 to D2S adapter you should be fine.
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Old 12-14-2005, 07:14 PM   #80
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I understand why they are different. But what is different about them? How are they made, compared to that of a halogen housing. Basically the point of my question is to see if the housing could be modified to give optimum output for an HID retrofit.
As for modifying a WRX reflector to mimic an STi reflector, most likely not. The difference would be in the curvature/partitioning of the reflector (it needs a different overall focal length to get the same beam pattern because the D2S bulb shape is longer, resulting in more distance between the source and the reflector). So the actual mold shape for the plastic is different, it's not as simple as the size of a hole or a bulb mount or something. It's just hard to see the differences because of the mirrored/partitioned surface (the partitioning is actually done partially to hide imperfections in the reflector's shape and finish). Amazing what you can learn working for a major automaker, and studying for your Physics II: Electricity and Optics final.

In any case, I guess my real question was, does anyone know if the STi reflector bolts into the WRX housing?
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Old 12-15-2005, 11:42 AM   #81
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i think he meant bulb, ballast, and ignitor. as long as you have the H7 to D2S adapter you should be fine.
Perfect that is what I was looking for! Thanks!
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:20 PM   #82
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And I have to have the D2s to make the bulbs fit in Morettes?
I thought if I had H7 bulbs they would fit perfect.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:47 PM   #83
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And I have to have the D2s to make the bulbs fit in Morettes?
I thought if I had H7 bulbs they would fit perfect.

I think you should be fine with the morrettes, projectors are less picky about HID than free form lights. Your "s" (distance from source to interface) will still be a little different, because am H7 base HID is still longer than an H7 halogen, but the problem isn't as significant with the lense there, as long as you're aimed right. I was talking about the '04-'05 factory WRX vs STi headlights.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:43 PM   #84
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:45 PM   #85
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Great thanks. I have been reading the HID FQA and the Daniel Stern Lighting information to make sure I do this the right way.
I will aim the lights after the install following the Daniel Stern Lighting aiming.
Thanks again for the information.
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Old 12-18-2005, 05:46 PM   #86
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Instead of doing the H7 HIDs, i think im going to swap the projectors in my morrettes for an HID projector. Ive been looking around and only see Bosch and Valeo projectors, do both of those fit in the morrettes, or just the Valeos?
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Old 12-18-2005, 07:10 PM   #87
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And I have to have the D2s to make the bulbs fit in Morettes?
I thought if I had H7 bulbs they would fit perfect.
There's no such thing as H7 HIDs. Any HIDs you see with halogen type bases are aftermarket "rebased" types. D2S bulbs are OEM HIDs, same as the ones on vehicles that are equipped with HIDs from the factory. It's far better to use the real thing whenever possible, which it fortunately is with Morettes and other H7 lights.
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Old 12-18-2005, 07:12 PM   #88
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Instead of doing the H7 HIDs, i think im going to swap the projectors in my morrettes for an HID projector. Ive been looking around and only see Bosch and Valeo projectors, do both of those fit in the morrettes, or just the Valeos?
They may be a standard size, but you need to get the measurements to be sure. www.rallylights.com has HID projectors (don't recall if they are Valeo, Bosch or Hella) and I know they have dimensions listed. Be sure to look at the depth, IIRC the HID projector units were much deeper/longer than the halogen ones and as a result may not fit due to clearance issues behind the lights.
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Old 12-18-2005, 07:22 PM   #89
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They may be a standard size, but you need to get the measurements to be sure. www.rallylights.com has HID projectors (don't recall if they are Valeo, Bosch or Hella) and I know they have dimensions listed. Be sure to look at the depth, IIRC the HID projector units were much deeper/longer than the halogen ones and as a result may not fit due to clearance issues behind the lights.
do you know where i can get the dimensions for the morrette projectors? Or should i just take them apart and measure? Ive checked threads here looking for dimensions, tried to find a spec sheet on them or a morette website, but couldnt find anything. I might try emailing Z-1, or PM them, ask if they know.
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Old 12-18-2005, 07:32 PM   #90
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If you have the Morettes just measure them yourself. I doubt that anyone else will be able to supply you with the proper information and why bother when you already have it at your disposal? I have the original Morette instructions that came with them and they don't show the dimensions.
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Old 12-20-2005, 05:05 PM   #91
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Default help me pls with 02-03 jdm sti hid installation

HELP ME i just bought a 02-03 jdm sti hid projectors
how do I install it?
do i need 2 wire something up even if i already got the wiring harness?
are these plug n play?
help me with full details of installing this jdm hid projectors to my car

thanks!!!!

p.s.i really need full details and the step by step process of installing the hid projectors
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Old 12-20-2005, 08:27 PM   #92
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This will be your best starting point/link. If this appears to be too complex via these instructions I would suggest having a trained shop install them via those instructions. If you short out youu ballasts you'll want to cry

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Old 01-01-2006, 10:31 PM   #94
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im installing the philips kit in my gfs dad race car and i have a quick question. He seems to think the polarity (positive or negative) doesntmatter on a light bulb. Im not 100% sure of that but it possible. My question is does it matter for HIDs for plugging in the ballasts? Her dad is trying use the plugs that came on the car so the hood can come off quickly in the pits but i dont know which wire of the plug is positive and negative and i cannot follow the wires to the battery.
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Yes, it matters. A filament type bulb has no polarity, but an HID ballast most certainly does. It's a DC device with a lot of circuitry inside, and if connected backwards (reverse polarity) it will at the very least not work and at worst could be damaged.
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Old 01-01-2006, 10:39 PM   #96
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thats what i thought. thanks for the quick response.
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do u guys know which type of light bulb for my 06 wrx?
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Old 01-05-2006, 12:55 AM   #98
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H7s are the low beams. Have you checked your Owner's Manual? Info on what bulbs are in there...
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Old 01-05-2006, 06:50 AM   #99
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Yes Morettes as sold here have halogen projector low-beams. HID Morettes do exist, but I am not aware of any vendors who sell them here, whether they are made in LHD, and what they cost (presumably very expensive). Any Morettes with HIDs you come across will, with 99% probability, be retrofits.
Agree about the proxenon link. Some useful stuff, but it's a vendor site so it will be biased to the stuff they sell.
Also the statement that HIDs reduce the drain on your vehicle's electrical system is not entirely true. While the nominal operating draw of an HID bulb/ballast setup is lower than a typical OEM halogen once the HID is running (35W vs. 55W), the initial startup current requirement of the HID is very high. It varies among different manufacturers, but an individual ballast can draw 10-15 amps during its startup cycle before settling down to the normal operating current of 2-3 amps. This is why an HID setup should never be wired to operate through the factory ground switching system for the headlights. The switched grounds are not designed to handle this amount of current. Note that all the ground current for the headlights passes through the headlight switch, as well as a rather long run of narrow-gauge wiring. Even with the current draw of the stock halogen bulbs there is a voltage drop through this ground system of around 1.5-2 volts. When it tries to supply the startup demand of HIDs, up to 30A or so for both ballasts combined, the drop will be much higher. This can result in the HIDs not starting properly or at all, they may just flicker and never turn on fully. It's bad for the bulbs, ballasts and switch contacts and can damage them all over time.
So, the above is why we are constantly advising anyone installing HIDs to directly ground the ballasts and bypass the switched grounds entirely. So-called "plug and play" HID kits that plug into the factory headlight connectors, and use the switched grounds, are a good idea only for the vendors selling the kits, to make you more likely to buy them. The switched grounds should never be used to run the HIDs.


I have an aftermarket HID system on my JDM projectors, and I grounded it the way you advise not to, but after a year there have not been any ill effects. Should I do what you suggest, or just leave it since nothing bad has happened? I'm not trying to prove you wrong, I'm just wondering if what you're saying is as severe as you say it is.
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http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/retro-vs-oem.htm

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