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Old 05-25-2006, 08:11 PM   #126
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no, basically every HID projector you will find is OEM in something, so your output will not be either superior or inferior really to that of the STi projectors. They may have a different cutoff, or a little different color or lighting position, but you wont be dissappointed with whichever projectors you go with really. Valeo, Bosch, Stanley, whatever it may be, it will be a very good upgrade.
Whether thats true or not, I suppose I'll find out, or at least the people driving opposite me will find out, but thats the answer I wanted to hear.

There's just so much hubub about the different housings, and I just don't get why If I get one of those Audi A6 kits it would be any different, especially with the 06 housings having projectors in them.

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Old 05-26-2006, 02:53 AM   #127
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I'm just going with personal experience...but my halogen projector units are inferior as far as light output goes compared with a made-for-HID projector unit. When I'm side-by-side with my roommate's M3, his e46 Hellas just blankets the road with light while my Hella 90mm units have more concentrated light, hot spots, and doesn't spread as wide. The color band is just as colorful as HID projectors and my cutoff is good after I modded the shield. But again, the light output, although far better than my stock bugeyes, is still somewhat lacking when compared to some other units.

From what I've seen on here, the results of members installing HIDs in their '06 WRXs have been good. Nobody has yet to prove or disprove that the '06 WRX projector units are the same or different from the STI HID units. I would assume they are different, but I have no clue - nor has anyone cared enough to find out. It's not a big deal really - but here I am still talking about it

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Old 05-26-2006, 11:33 AM   #128
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The bugeyes didn't have projector bulbs in the housing though right? Thats the only reason I'm suspecting the 06's to be a lot easier than the older kind, the fact that they actually have those round bulbs.
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Old 05-26-2006, 02:10 PM   #129
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I'm just going with personal experience...but my halogen projector units are inferior as far as light output goes compared with a made-for-HID projector unit. When I'm side-by-side with my roommate's M3, his e46 Hellas just blankets the road with light while my Hella 90mm units have more concentrated light, hot spots, and doesn't spread as wide. The color band is just as colorful as HID projectors and my cutoff is good after I modded the shield. But again, the light output, although far better than my stock bugeyes, is still somewhat lacking when compared to some other units.

From what I've seen on here, the results of members installing HIDs in their '06 WRXs have been good. Nobody has yet to prove or disprove that the '06 WRX projector units are the same or different from the STI HID units. I would assume they are different, but I have no clue - nor has anyone cared enough to find out. It's not a big deal really - but here I am still talking about it
yeh, i edited my post for clarity
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Old 05-27-2006, 12:27 AM   #130
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The bugeyes didn't have projector bulbs in the housing though right? Thats the only reason I'm suspecting the 06's to be a lot easier than the older kind, the fact that they actually have those round bulbs.
You're right. No projectors in the OEM bugeye lights
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Old 06-10-2006, 06:47 PM   #131
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moved to legacy OB forum

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Old 07-06-2006, 12:57 PM   #132
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here's a video that shows you just how much glare there is from HID kits that use halogen housings- the car is a prelude, but any reflector can be like this.

HID driver's bulb, halogen passenger's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcX63...search=Hidding
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Old 08-11-2006, 02:49 AM   #133
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OK, I'm midway through installing the HID H7 retrofit bulbs and ballasts into my 06 WRX. I'm using the standard WRX projectors that are designed for H7 bulbs, and using a Chinese inexpensive kit with rebased bulbs - not the D2S and adapters. The results are pretty good - the light is NOT as even as the stock H7, but the cutoff is very sharp and there seems to be no more glare.

This first picture is of the lights projected onto a wall with the left headlight still H7 and the right one the HID unit.



The next is the light from the H7 light only.



And finally the output of the HID unit - it's somewhat uneven, but much more light.



WAY better pattern for lack of glare than the bugeye 02 had. I suspect the uneven pattern will be OK when both lights are done, especially if I choose to fill in the close shadows with the fog lights. And I've got the 9011 HIR bulbs for my high beams so with them lit I have LOTS of light.
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Old 08-11-2006, 09:18 AM   #134
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Looks pretty decent, however, like you said, the hot spots are the downfall of the experiment. Kudos on results that are somewhat better than the ones I've seen on here

Post pics of when you have both projectors running HIDs - and maybe some forground lighting ones.
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:15 AM   #135
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Not sure what you mean by "forground lighting" pictures. One thing to note is that the second and third pictures were done with the same exposure, so the relative brightness is the actual difference. So even the darker areas in the HID pattern are lit about as well as the H7 did, and the far left of the HID output is out of the pictured beam in the H7 photo as I did not move the camera (it was on a tripod) and 5 feet between the lights is reflected in the pictures of the wall which was about 25 feet away.
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:28 AM   #136
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"Foreground" meaning a pic of the lighting on the road.
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:27 AM   #137
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I'm a newbie to the sight so sorry if this question is a dup., but was just wondering with the 06' wagon, when installing HID's, is there a convenient spot to mount the balast(s)?
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I'm a newbie to the sight so sorry if this question is a dup., but was just wondering with the 06' wagon, when installing HID's, is there a convenient spot to mount the balast(s)?
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On the right side it's not hard to find a spot. I made up a bracket of angle aluminum and mounted it to the brackets that hold the power steering resevoir and ABS brake controler and got a nice mounting.

On the left - that's the problem. Mine is zip tied to the window washer fill tube with rubber strips between the ballast and the white plastic tube to make the mounting firmer. The other problem is that the clearance between the battery and the back of the headlight bulb cover is minimal, but it's doable. Of course you need to remove the battery to do much of anything on the left side.
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Old 08-17-2006, 01:06 PM   #139
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Having just done this on a sedan, I'd say that under the headlights themselves is the best spot, you have to take off the grille, unbolt the headlights and bump them out a little in order to get the ballasts through the opening under them, but its easier than taking the bumper off... I think.

Instructions for that can be found in the "clearing your 06 headlights" thread, just ignore the parts about taking the lights all the way out and clearing them etc.
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Old 08-17-2006, 02:33 PM   #140
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Here's where/how I located my HID ballasts. Not anything fancy but it has worked for over three years now:

Driver's Side:



Passenger Side:

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Here's where/how I located my HID ballasts. Not anything fancy but it has worked for over three years now:
On the earlier cars (before 2006) it was pretty easy to find a spot. The 06 headlight takes more room and the battery has been moved forward to make room for the air blower on the 06, making finding a spot more difficult.
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Old 08-18-2006, 05:42 PM   #142
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I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for their input regarding the HID install. It definitely came in handy. After the install, did anyone experience DRL issues. (flickering HID's, one side on the other off etc.)
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Old 08-18-2006, 05:52 PM   #143
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I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for their input regarding the HID install. It definitely came in handy. After the install, did anyone experience DRL issues. (flickering HID's, one side on the other off etc.)
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you should turn off your DRLs when installing HIDs, itll just lead to a premature failure of the bulb (IIRC, dont hold me to that). Theres a plug behind the dash on the passenger side, just unplug it and you're golden.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:20 PM   #144
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yeah there is a whole thread just for the DRLs... I unhooked mine last night in preparation for my HID install later tonight. All you have to do is get on your back on the passenger side, shine a flashlight up under the glove box (looking towards the outside of the car,) and without removing the glovebox you should only be able to see one harness within reach. It is very difficult to reach up and unhook if your hands are even average sized. I recommend putting your hand close to it when you are on your back and then sitting upright on the passenger floor while still reaching up underneath. (You can get a much better grip on it, but again, it's a REALLY tight squeeze!)
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I think I have a new question - I've read and searched, but maybe it's not new.

I purchased a used STi from a fellow forum member who had the lenses cleared out. Before the sale everything went back to stock and now the headlight assembly has condensation inside of it and also the HID light does not work. Brights work fine. The seller said the light would work intermittently but now it doesn't work at all. I figured that the condensation killed the bulb and maybe the ballast. I've ordered another assembly but after that it still may not work, correct? Is a new bulb all I need or perhaps even a new ballast AND bulb? Any thoughts?
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Old 09-26-2006, 11:24 PM   #146
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I think I have a new question - I've read and searched, but maybe it's not new.

I purchased a used STi from a fellow forum member who had the lenses cleared out. Before the sale everything went back to stock and now the headlight assembly has condensation inside of it and also the HID light does not work. Brights work fine. The seller said the light would work intermittently but now it doesn't work at all. I figured that the condensation killed the bulb and maybe the ballast. I've ordered another assembly but after that it still may not work, correct? Is a new bulb all I need or perhaps even a new ballast AND bulb? Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance!
HIDs are VERY sensitive to moisture.

more than likely you will only need new bulbs, but i would be sure to reseal the lights completely and have them checked out by someone who knows what they're doing before installing or running the new HID components.

you'll have to bake and air them out before resealing them, or the condensation in the lights will more than likely blow out your replacement HID capsules as well.

and be sure to get D2R bulbs, not D2S, as the r have shields required for running in reflector housings.

sorry to hear about your dilemma, sounds like you got hosed.
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Old 09-27-2006, 06:09 AM   #147
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The common scenario with cleared STi lights that leak is that water gets into the ballast causing the lights to become inoperative. In some cases the ballast can be removed and dried out successfully, in other cases it may have to be replaced. If one side works and the other doesn't, you can swap parts between sides to isolate what is bad and go from there.
If the ballast turns out to be bad and must be replaced, you should request some compensation from the previous owner because new ballasts are about $300 each.
You will definitely have to reseal the lights to prevent this from happening again.
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:40 AM   #148
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Thanks for the help gentlemen. Just to make things clear the sale price of the car took into account repairing the HID light, so the seller and I are 100% square. I'm not even going to play with resealing the light as it may turn into the same fiasco down the road, new glass for me! Do I risk blowing the other bulb when I swap? Anything else I should know?
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The bulb shouldn't blow, if the ballast isn't working it just won't light up. You can sometimes tell a bad HID bulb by looking, the capsule where it actually lights up should be clear or white inside, if it's black or dark brown that's not good.
Most likely it's the ballasts though, if you can confirm that they're not working and the budget allows for new ones then they should be replaced.
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It is in the budget so I should be good. I'll swap things around to see if I can isolate the problem. Since it was intermittent in the past I'll bet it's the ballast. Thanks a ton for all the help!
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