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Old 11-13-2004, 12:58 AM   #1
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Default Sharing my experience with stock STI Tires

I am bored right now so I thought of sharing my experience removing the stock tires.

Well, just about 2 days ago, I went to find an automotive workshop where they can help me mount my new tires so I found this small workshop. I dont really want to go to those big places like Firestone simply because their balancing machine may not be accurate since they do all kind of vehicles and under hash usage, the machine may not be accurate anymore.

Anyway, I went to 2 places and both of the place can't perform the job because the stock STi tires' sidewalls are too stiff and their machines are not strong enough and I end up back to those general tire store to have it removed and moun the new tires.

So for those of you who drive an STi and consider looking for a place to remove those tires, make sure their machines are strong enough to remove those tires.

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Old 11-13-2004, 01:31 AM   #2
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or just go to Firestone to begin with
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Old 11-13-2004, 06:43 AM   #3
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FWIW: i did go to firestone once my RE070 wore out. I got S-03's (im going back to RE070 next year) Even firestone had problems removing them. The inner lip of my rims have the bit marks where the machine they used to remove the tires was used. No big deal since you cant see the marks
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Old 11-13-2004, 09:11 AM   #4
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The RE070's are damn heavy, and the ride is rough due to the extremely stiff sidewall. There is a thread on www.imprezawrxsti.com where users are saving 6lbs per corner just by changing to a different performance tire.

For my next summer tire, I'll be going with something slightly wider and much lighter.
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Old 11-13-2004, 05:06 PM   #5
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The RE070's are damn heavy, and the ride is rough due to the extremely stiff sidewall. There is a thread on www.imprezawrxsti.com where users are saving 6lbs per corner just by changing to a different performance tire.

For my next summer tire, I'll be going with something slightly wider and much lighter.

Yes..but you'll be losing quite a bit of turn-in feedback and grip, at the limit, by switching to a "lighter" (I.E. soft sidewall) tire. It's a trade-off. I'm not willing to compromise, grip-wise, so I'll stick with the 070s unless I find something with similar corner grip but less noise.
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Old 11-13-2004, 05:34 PM   #6
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The RE 070 have excellent grip characteristics ..... at the track, they are ver progressive and have great feedback - you can always tell whe you're approaching the limits of adhesion and steer/throttle/brake accordingly

They may not be the lightest or even the best tires available, but they are a good match for the STi !

Just my experience - I'd try other brands if I see people recommending them alot for track events / daily driver
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Old 11-13-2004, 11:25 PM   #7
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You got to be careful of going to small shops. One of the small shop I went to ended up scratching up my P1 rims while replacing the tires (215/45/17). At first they didn't think they could replace them because of its size in terms of low profile and etc. They tried hard to get them off and in doing so induced scratches on the rims.
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Old 11-14-2004, 03:19 AM   #8
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people get too hung up on tire weight. Sure lightweight tires like the Toyo T1-S and Kumho MX can be as much as 5 or 6 lbs lighter per tire, but they don't grip like the 070 and they don't handle like the 070.
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Old 11-14-2004, 06:29 PM   #9
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I just had my bald 070's removed to put on my snow tires at my local "small town" shop. This is the 2nd time since I've had the shop do it, and they haven't damaged my rims. They have hard time, but they get it done using a rather old, worn machine. THe tech even showed me the slop in the machine while doing it. He said the other employee uses it to remove skid steer tires occasionally, which is why it is worn. FWIW, this shop charges slightly more for 17" & 18" car tires because the tires on these rims are usually perfromance tires with stiff sidewalls. The 20's & 22's they've done are easier, so they say.

Did the two shops you went to try to dismount your tires, or did they know from experience? It sounds like they were lazy to me,

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Old 11-15-2004, 09:44 AM   #10
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I had a similar experience. I posted about it on the regional boards but here is a excerpt ...

"I ordered my tires from TireRack on Tuesday (11/09) and the shop got them today. TireRack's turnaround time is amazing. For the Record the tires were Pirelli PZero Nero M+S tires in 235/45/17.

I was scheduled for a 1pm install. I stayed with the tech the entire time. Out of his years of doing tires (with 17's under his belt) this was the most difficult set of tires he has ever done. We had to go use a different tire machine at another local shop down the street. Their tire machine didn't have all the necessary swing arms. The RE070 sidewalls are incredibly stiff. Other techs came over (from both shops) and looked at him like what was wrong and he gave them a shot at it. They couldn't believe how stiff the sidewalls are on the RE070s. The first tire to be removed was ruined. The rubber ripped at the bead. The second tire didn't rip at the bead but had a small slit under it. The silver tire prybar has two ends. He was using the hook end in order to make sure it didn't slip off and dent my wheel. Well, the hook end ripped the rubber around the bead on both rear tires. Anyhow, we eventually figured out the procedure and the front 2 went much better ... without destruction. Completed everything around 4:30 Using the other end of the silver tire prybar worked fine on the other two tires. "

No matter what ... I seriously advise ANYONE replacing the stock tires on their STi to hang out and watch the technicians. I could easily see techs screwing up your rims due to the stiff sidewalls.

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Old 11-15-2004, 10:52 AM   #11
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Thinking I'll be getting wheels with the winter tires after reading this!
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Old 11-15-2004, 11:07 AM   #12
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I just put Michelins Pilot A/S on the '05 for the winter on Thursday. My in-laws have a dealership. I usually go there for stuff like this.

The tech came out and said he couldn't get them off with their machine. He took them down the road to another local shop, even that one complained to him they were tough. They scratched one of the rims too, oh well.

I am switching to a 235/245 this summer. I love those stock tires, but I am curious to see how some others perform.
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Old 11-15-2004, 11:10 AM   #13
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FWIW, Discount Tire hasn't had any problems with my 070s.
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