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Old 11-16-2004, 02:01 PM   #1
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Question 22b Question

-Does anyone know what the restrictions are for importing a 22b into the U.S. besides the usual airbags, bumber protection, and engine control of other cars?
-Can you swap engines with a us spec sti and put the proper regulations in to make it legal?
-Has any one everdone this before?
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Old 11-16-2004, 02:56 PM   #2
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You can't bring a 22b into the country.

It's pointless anyway.

It's standard 1998/99 (v5?) STi heads with a USDM 91-94MY Legacy Turbo block.

Build your own.
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Old 11-16-2004, 04:11 PM   #3
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You can't bring a 22b into the country.

It's pointless anyway.

It's standard 1998/99 (v5?) STi heads with a USDM 91-94MY Legacy Turbo block.

Build your own.
then get a 22b styled widebody kit, and your all set.

US 22b.
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Old 11-16-2004, 06:53 PM   #4
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then get a 22b styled widebody kit, and your all set.

US 22b.
And you would come out cheaper.


You can bring it in, you can not drive it... unless your loaded or can get dealer/industry plates. Insuring it will be very expencive and complex too.
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Old 11-16-2004, 07:39 PM   #5
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A carefully worded letter stating that it's a motorsports use only car will enable you to import one and drive it, but it'd be cheaper to buy an STI and you'd end up with a faster car after spending the same amount on mods. As totoherbs said it'd really be the insurance that would get you since overseas cars don't typically have the US standard type serial numbers.
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Old 11-16-2004, 09:09 PM   #6
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If you had enough money you could insure yourself.
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Old 11-16-2004, 10:55 PM   #7
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legal is such a funny word around here. everyone wants to conserve energy, save animals, and have the fastest thing on four wheels under the sun with no consequences. Just have a company go for the wide-body kit...and build yourself a gc8 w/ a sti engine+tranny. It'll be fast as hell, and still make it under the "legal" radar of the law.
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Old 11-17-2004, 09:38 AM   #8
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whoaaaa..... the 22b engine IS NOT the same thing as "USDM 91-94MY Legacy turbo block"

the legacy turbo block is an EJ22G, and the 22b is .... EJ22B.

the 22B is a phase II block... meaning the thrust bearing is in a different location. (ie: EJ251 versus EJ257, ect.) the EJ22G block has piston pissers but the EJ22B doesn't even have room for them in the block.

The blocks are *nowhere* near the same.

here in oregon, there are no horsepower limits. they can't control that... so... as long as you're not recklessly driving, peeling tires, drifting, ect. to get you pulled over, you're ok.
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Old 11-17-2004, 12:53 PM   #9
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whoaaaa..... the 22b engine IS NOT the same thing as "USDM 91-94MY Legacy turbo block"

the legacy turbo block is an EJ22G, and the 22b is .... EJ22B.

the 22B is a phase II block... meaning the thrust bearing is in a different location. (ie: EJ251 versus EJ257, ect.) the EJ22G block has piston pissers but the EJ22B doesn't even have room for them in the block.

The blocks are *nowhere* near the same.

here in oregon, there are no horsepower limits. they can't control that... so... as long as you're not recklessly driving, peeling tires, drifting, ect. to get you pulled over, you're ok.
Yet again I have to correct you The 22B has an EJ22G ENGINE in it. The USDM Legacy Turbo has an EJ22T ENGINE in it. all the rest you say is correct.
And there is one 22B in this country, it is at SOA corporate headquarters...
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Old 11-17-2004, 01:16 PM   #10
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LOL someone asking all the time about 22Bs. If you really want one I can easily locate you one for about 30k before taxes and shipping!!!
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Old 11-17-2004, 01:28 PM   #11
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Where can I buy a wide body 22b kit from then? How much would the kit be?

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Old 11-17-2004, 05:24 PM   #12
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There is a crappy one on ebay.

And then there is the Aerosim kit that may or may not be finished any time soon.
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Old 11-17-2004, 07:06 PM   #13
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There is a crappy one on ebay.

And then there is the Aerosim kit that may or may not be finished any time soon.
A 22b on ebay?

A guy posted a few weeks back that he had one up forsale, it was at 30k GBP which is 55k American.

Arg, I want v5 heads to make my own 22b.

Did the 22b just have different cams/valves? Anyone think they could find something similar?

And didnt SOA have to destroy theirs because of some 2 year law?
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Old 11-28-2004, 11:41 PM   #14
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And didnt SOA have to destroy theirs because of some 2 year law?
No, I don't think so. I saw the car in person a little over a year ago and I also talked to a guy from SOA at the shootout this past Sept. and asked why it wasn't there this year. He said he wasn't exactly sure why they didn't bring it this year (he thought maybe they were doing some work on it or something IIRC) but were hoping to bring it again next year since everyone was pretty bummed it wasn't there.
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Old 11-28-2004, 11:55 PM   #15
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Old 11-29-2004, 10:52 AM   #16
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then get a 22b styled widebody kit, and your all set.

US 22b.
then four pots up front and two pots in the rear, 5spd drivetrain with LSD's everywhere and DCCD...also wider BBS wheels, and the bilstein struts as well as the nice seats...then you are there...
so buy a ver 5 or 6 engine and drivetrain, then add the EJ22G block (even though not the same, close enough) and get all the other niceties...
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Old 12-03-2004, 02:21 PM   #17
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skylines are faster
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Old 12-03-2004, 02:41 PM   #18
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Was it really necessary to bump this old thread to say that? freaking newbs...
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And there is one 22B in this country, it is at SOA corporate headquarters...
I believe there is also one near Colorado that runs the Pike's Peak hill climb.
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That very well may be, the one he mentions and that is pictured above is the only street legal 22b in North America though AFAIK.
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Old 12-05-2004, 08:28 AM   #21
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skylines are faster
Once you mod them yes in stock form no!!
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Old 12-21-2004, 12:42 PM   #22
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Old 12-22-2004, 08:19 PM   #23
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Some crappy photos of the above mentioned beauty.






Such a gorgeous car!!!
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Old 12-23-2004, 09:50 AM   #24
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Question from a newbie - Why aren't 22B's allowed in the US?
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Old 12-23-2004, 10:03 AM   #25
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Question from a newbie - Why aren't 22B's allowed in the US?

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