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Old 11-16-2004, 11:27 PM   #1
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Default All season PZero Nero or Summer PZero Nero?

I'm going to be buying a set of tires fro my new rims I bought.
From what I've read I'm 99% sure I'm going to buy a set of PZero Nero's.
My dilema is to get the either the all season or summer version of this tire.

My car:
stock (in every way) '01RS
tire to be mounted on 17x7 rims for summer usage.

I know there a big difference between summer and all season performance.
And since I live in Calgary, it has known that it could have a bit of snow in the fall and spring. But so far, I think I'll be going with the all season version. For a couple of reasons. Cost, review for the 2 are very close in performance (click me to check tirerack reviews) , and the somewhat better grip in the occasional sudden snow fall.

What do you guys think?
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Old 11-16-2004, 11:47 PM   #2
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Old 11-17-2004, 09:39 AM   #3
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Do you only drive on pavement? Or do you like to rip up the gravel roads? Summer-only tires suck on gravel.
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Old 11-17-2004, 06:49 PM   #4
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I have the PZero Nero M+S rated tires and they handled great on pavement. Great grip in wet and snow as well. I was suprised for their drivability in all conditions.
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Old 11-17-2004, 07:10 PM   #5
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I, too, have the all-season PZero Nero M+S rated tires. They have awesome traction in all conditions. Love em, way better than the stock tires
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:25 AM   #6
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:56 AM   #7
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i also have the M&S PZero's. they are great!
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Old 11-18-2004, 12:53 PM   #8
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the summer version is scary even in light snow, and almost undriveable in snow a few inches deep. The drive home from work was done VERY carefully, and I had to make multiple attempts just to get into my garage after it snowed a few inches here earlier this year. I changed tires, went back out & had no problems at all with grip. Tires I changed to - Continental Contiextremecontacts. But those tires suck REALLY bad on pavement.
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Old 11-18-2004, 10:54 PM   #9
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Apples and oranges. If you want an all season, get the all seasons. If you want a summer tire, get the hi po ones. There is no comparing the two, built for two different purposes.

I've had my Nero's (summer) for two seasons (they are officially retired now). I've ran SO3's and T1S's before the Nero's. They each have their pluses and minuses.
Nero's - very good wet (T1's and SO3's better in standing water) and dry traction, relatively light (T1's lighter, SO3's heavier), sidewall stiffnees right in between the two- overall a very good hi po tire. I'd consider replacing them w/ same, but Pirelli doesn't import the 225/50/16's anymore

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Old 11-19-2004, 01:33 AM   #10
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Is the tread pattern of the "PZero Nero" summer tire and the "PZero Nero M&S" tire exactly the same?

Tirerack's site uses the same photo for the 1000x1000 picture of each tire, and Pirelli's US site also shows them with identical tread patterns.

Anyone know for sure?
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Old 11-19-2004, 01:17 PM   #11
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I think the tread pattern is very similar, my summer ones look like the pic- I'm guessing w/ a snow rating, the M&S ones would have some siping. The compounds and likley construction (side wall stiffness) would be different as well.

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