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Old 11-20-2004, 07:30 PM   #1
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Question Where to buy online discounted OEM WRX oil filters for the best price?



Hello all,

Anyone know know where I can buy discounted OEM Oil Filters for the WRX? Whom has the best prices and shipping?

I checked out http://www.allsubaru.com but their shipping is rather expensive.

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Old 11-20-2004, 07:49 PM   #2
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How close do you live to a dealer. That would be your best option if you don't want to pay for shipping. Or just buy aftermarket of your choice, fram or purolator or whatever. I live 1 1/2 hours away from the only dealer in this state so I just buy aftermarket filters.
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:42 PM   #3
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Old 11-22-2004, 12:36 AM   #4
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InfamousDX...

Thanks Mike! Anything new? Shoots me an email bro.

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Old 11-22-2004, 09:39 AM   #5
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I recently got a chance to chop a purolator oil filter and a OEM oil filter in half and take a look at them....I would have to say the rumors I have heard about purolator making these for Subaru are true as the similarities is design were shocking.

Get the PureOne oil filters if you want to compare. part no 14660.
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Old 11-22-2004, 04:25 PM   #6
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I bought mine from www.subaruparts.com . The good thing is they accept my Subaru Bucks coupons.
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Old 11-25-2004, 09:51 PM   #7
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I recently got a chance to chop a purolator oil filter and a OEM oil filter in half and take a look at them....I would have to say the rumors I have heard about purolator making these for Subaru are true as the similarities is design were shocking.

Get the PureOne oil filters if you want to compare. part no 14660.
do they make filters for the 04+ wrx?
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Old 11-26-2004, 12:39 AM   #8
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Thanks for the info guys.

I looked at Purolator's website and found that for an 04 WRX the part # for the PureOne oil filter is: PL14612

And I found that www.allsubaru.com has the OEM at a reasonable price with shipping.

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Old 11-26-2004, 07:11 AM   #9
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I recently got a chance to chop a purolator oil filter and a OEM oil filter in half and take a look at them....I would have to say the rumors I have heard about purolator making these for Subaru are true as the similarities is design were shocking.

Get the PureOne oil filters if you want to compare. part no 14660.

It's not a "rumor". It's printed on the OEM filter itself, made by Purolator for Subaru.
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Old 11-26-2004, 12:14 PM   #10
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I have to recommend against the PureOnes. Though they are in fact one of the best filtering filters, they are one of the worst flowing. The bypass is set to open from 14-17lb on the PureOne, and 20-24 on the OEM. That, combined with the restrictive filtration media, means that under heavy load the bypass valve will open, flowing completely unfiltered oil through your engine.

On the other hand, the OEM filter made by Purolator is a Premium Plus, one of the highest flowing filters made. The OEM filters 2-3 times the oil per minute that the PUREONE does. It has the Bypass valve set exactly to Subaru Specs, and I would trust Subaru to spec the proper filter for the car they designed. The OEM filter filters 9/10ths of the Primium Plus, but when you factor in that it won't be going into bypass at every freeway on-ramp, it probably surpasses the PureOne. Plus it is half the price.
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Old 11-26-2004, 01:07 PM   #11
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I have to recommend against the PureOnes. Though they are in fact one of the best filtering filters, they are one of the worst flowing. The bypass is set to open from 14-17lb on the PureOne,
Do you have any data to show that the pressure on the media will ever exceed 14 pounds per square inch on a filter with less than 10,000 miles on it?
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Old 11-26-2004, 02:12 PM   #12
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http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/...=6;t=000513;p=

http://www.oilfilterstudy.com/index.htm

In the second study, the Premium plus flowed 17.2 oz per minute and the Pure One flowed 5.3 oz per minute.

Now you tell me that a car designed with a 17.2 opm flow and a higher BPV spring rate in mind will be fine with a filter allowing 5.3 opm flow and a lower BPV setting?

Those flow rates are not for our filter size, but the ratio should remain consistent between sizes.

I would trust Subarus spec on this one.
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Old 11-26-2004, 02:47 PM   #13
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In the second study, the Premium plus flowed 17.2 oz per minute and the Pure One flowed 5.3 oz per minute.
What is the oil flow rate in our 4 cyl engines?

Would warrantee repair be denied because you used this filter?

I use the $5 filter and it sounds like I am doing more harm than good.

Is there anything beside an opinion that this is true?

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Old 11-26-2004, 07:48 PM   #14
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What is the oil flow rate in our 4 cyl engines?
Who knows? It depends on your driving habits. I know the manufacturer knows.

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Would warrantee repair be denied because you used this filter?
No, they cannot deny warranty because of that. The only way they could is if they were handing out oil filters for free and you insisted on using aftermarket filters, according to the Moss-Magnussen Act .


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I use the $5 filter and it sounds like I am doing more harm than good.
Which $5 filter? The Premium Plus? It is awesome.

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Is there anything beside an opinion that this is true?
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Purolator Premium Plus

Cost $2.99 -- Meijer

ADBV material: nitrile

Spring type: leaf

Baseplate hole area: 0.440 sq/in

Filter area: 345 sq/in; 64 pleats

Center tube hole area:* 1.46 sq/in

Total Weight: 425 grams

Filter and endcaps weight: 4 oz

Average largest pore size:* 57 Ám

Smallest pore size:* 22 Ám

30W 70F Oil flow @ 10psi:* 17.2 oz per minute

Summary

This filter appears to have good filtration capability and excellent flow.

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Purolator Pure One

Cost $4.99 -- Meijer

ADBV material: Silicon

Spring type: leaf

Baseplate hole area: 0.440 sq/in

Filter area: 330 sq/in; 62 pleats

Center tube hole area:* sq/in

Total Weight: 470 grams

Filter and endcaps weight: 5 oz

Average largest pore size:* 42 Ám

Smallest pore size:* 10 Ám

30W 70F Oil flow @ 10psi:* 5.3 oz per minute

Summary

This filter appears to have excellent filtration capability and lower than average flow.* Good construction with a silicon ADBV.
Bah, I just spent 15 minutes searching for the piece I was looking for.

Basically, I just can't see how you can imagine that a car that was intended to run a 17opm filter would do just as good as a filter that runs 1/3 of that flow. Absurd. The engineers know what they're doing. If it was 3opm difference, fine. But it has triple the flow with a bypass that is more resistant to opening. Why would you use anything less?

Plus, UOA's with Premium pluses are stellar. It is not like you are giving up filtration.
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Old 11-27-2004, 01:55 AM   #15
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Was this filter precisely designed for this application or selected because it is a very common widely used filter?

What flow rate is required? What is the differential pressure across the filter at the flow rate of our engines? Are you saying the bypass will open in normal operation?

Does the filter bypass ever open except when the oil is cold? Do we even know what that pressure is for this specific size filter?

Which is better more filtration or above average flow? We have two opinions.

On the other hand it will run fine and last a long time with a FRAM filter also.
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Old 11-27-2004, 02:49 PM   #16
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The filters in that comparioson were chosen because they fit his application: A ford or something.

I don't know what flow rate is required. I can't say definitively that bypass does or does not open in OUR filters, but logic would dictate that IF FHI spec'd a filter with a very high flow rate, very good filtration, and a bypass pressure of 20-24, and you install a filter with 1/3 the flow, excellent filtration, and bypass pressure of 11-14, there is a distinct possibility the filter will NOT run as intended ie it will be in bypass much more than the OEM would be. We all agree that the less time in bypass the better.

I do not understand why you would insist on using something other than the OEM if the OEM is an excellent product, which it is. If it was shown to be a bad filter, fine; but it has been shown, time and time again to be one of the best filters around regardless of price. Factor in price and there is no comparison.

But hey, if you need to be different...
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Old 11-27-2004, 03:32 PM   #17
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I do not understand why you would insist on using something other than the OEM if the OEM is an excellent product,

But hey, if you need to be different...
The OEM product is the one you buy at the dealer with the subaru logo on it not the one at autozone.

I just took exception to an opinion being presented as fact.
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Old 11-27-2004, 07:58 PM   #18
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It is not an opinion, it has been proven. I just don't have the patience to spend another 15 minutes looking for you.

The OEM is the same Premium plus you can buy at Auto Zone, though the bypass may be set differently. The filtration will be the same.

As far as Fram filters...bah, go do your own research.
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Old 11-28-2004, 11:41 AM   #19
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Hey Guys,

Interesting read this has turned out to be! Well I went to the autoparts store and looked at Purolator's app guide for their recommendation for their oil filters yesterday. Weird, they recommend the PureOne 14660 for most engines and the 04 2.0T WRX. For the 04 2.5T STi they recommend the PremiumPlus L14612.
Then while on their website they recommend the PremiumPlus L14612 for both the 04 WRX and STi! Haha I am confusie! What you guys think?

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Old 11-29-2004, 03:13 AM   #20
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I get my purolator 14460 at sears for 1.69 a piece. I havn't asked but they never have it on the shelf I aways have to ask for it. The price for 80% of those purolators on the shelf are 2.79. They must take the price down for being in the back and not in the box. oh well they still say purolator 14460 on them and have used them for years on the 3 imprezas I've had.\
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Now I wonderif they'll be the same price with the Sears/K-Mart merge? Better not dick it up cause I'd be 60 miles away from purolator then.

If that does happen then, (same as title of thread) who has cheap filters online?

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Old 12-07-2004, 02:52 AM   #22
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Old 12-07-2004, 03:12 AM   #23
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Now I wonderif they'll be the same price with the Sears/K-Mart merge? Better not dick it up cause I'd be 60 miles away from purolator then.

If that does happen then, (same as title of thread) who has cheap filters online?

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