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Old 02-11-2005, 11:05 AM   #26
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Here's my two cents on Xccelleration. I havent purchased anything from them, but I have asked them a lot of stupid questions. They have always given me informed and helpful answers. So, how can I think bad of them.

I will be buying there in the future, as soon as the right thing comes along and I get enough money. I am happy to support guys in my time zone! ;-)

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Old 02-11-2005, 11:54 AM   #27
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So, is there actually any information in here about lowering a Baja? I'd really like to know before I consider getting one.
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Old 02-13-2005, 02:09 AM   #28
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Old 02-13-2005, 02:52 PM   #29
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why would you want to lower the baja?
Good question, do you want a mini truck?

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Old 02-13-2005, 03:37 PM   #30
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Thats what i want to know is WHY? Why destroy a vehicle like that,all it will be is a show truck.Theres a guy that lives in my town and when you see his truck you say to your self WHY? This guy has a chevy long bed dullie slammed to the ground,what a waste of a good hauler.He now has a one of a kind show truck.What a waste of MONEY.
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Old 02-13-2005, 06:16 PM   #31
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Personally, I don't need to ride as high as the baja does stock. Something more along the height of my Legacy GT would be perfect. I don'y want to "slam" a baja, just bring it downa few notches, maybe help the handling out a bit in the process.
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Old 02-13-2005, 09:06 PM   #32
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Maybe go with an 03 Baja with lower ground clearance than the later years and low profile tires,that should get down there.
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Old 02-28-2005, 08:03 PM   #33
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Three words...Nascar Truck Series. Toyota opened that door. Seriously though, are the pickup points on the Baja struts the same as a BH Legacy? Some people may want to RAISE their Outback or Legacy higher. This information helps the entire legacy platform, not just those who want pimped Bajas. Facts are greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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Old 03-01-2005, 08:02 AM   #34
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I would think that since it is the same chasis as the WRX/STI that you could use the 04/05 STI suspension on your car. I swaped mine out with USDM STI struts/springs and it was a direct cross over. I have a Forester mind you but it still bolted right up. The ride quality will be that of an sti. Now, I have two sets of wheels as well. With the stock wheels the ride is smoother but I do get a little bit of bounce from the sidewalls of the tires but nothing major or jaring. With my 17's and sti tires the ride is much more firm but there is no bounce. you can pick up a JDM STI version 7 suspension, struts, tophats and springs for $580 at www.jdmpartstx.com right now as they supposedly have two sets left. This is not a bad deal really if you are looking at getting the car a little lower. This set up ended up dropping my car about 3" all around. I would think that if the Baja sits a little higher that your drop might be more. But you should still end up with about 4-6" of ground clearance.
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Old 03-01-2005, 08:20 AM   #35
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Except that the Baja is based on the legacy platform, not the impreza. The Forester however is based on the impreza platform.
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Old 03-01-2005, 11:29 AM   #36
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I spoke via email with a vendor who stated that one of their customers tried to use Legacy coilovers on a Baja with no success, no details given. I wonder what the differences are with the Baja versus the '00-'04 Legacy or Outback?

I also wonder if the '05 Legacy wagon or Outback would bolt up. Anyone here a tech at a dealership that could explore this?
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Old 03-01-2005, 01:55 PM   #37
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That may be the case but it just seems odd that they have the same body style as the FXT sitting on a different chassis if you will. My apologies for that one. I seriously thought they were on the same platform since the cars are frickn the same minus the back end!
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Old 03-01-2005, 02:13 PM   #38
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The Baja does have the same fat-butt rear end styling as the Forester, but everything else is quite different. It's basically a Legacy Outback with the end cut off.





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Old 03-01-2005, 02:19 PM   #39
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I guess you are right. Damn, my grill area looks twice as big as yours. I still have a smaller lower opening than the Baja though and that really sucks.
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Old 03-01-2005, 02:30 PM   #40
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I still have a smaller lower opening than the Baja though and that really sucks.
You shouldn't feel bad... same engine but...

Baja T Curb Weight MT 3610

XT Curb Weight MT 3225
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Old 03-01-2005, 03:04 PM   #41
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Wow, I did not think that there would be that big of a difference in weight! You guys definately need some more power then to get things equaled out!
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Old 03-04-2005, 03:10 PM   #42
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DRNWAGN, I have your exact car + a Leg GT. I WISH the two platforms were the same. It would make my quality of life that much better. The Leg's have an anti-squat rear geometry that makes the rear able to handle more weight with greater performance, versus the Impreza's crappy knock-knock-creak-boing-creak-thwack set-up. The Impreza is designed around a rally sedan chassis, and then Subaru engineers find cost effective ways to add weight to the rear (wagon, Forester) to the detriment of the rear chassis ride and performance. The Leg's sedan and wagon platform were conceived of together, with lifting in mind. I was hoping SOA did NOT change the suspension pick-ups and geometry on the Baja, but rather used a taller strut/spring combo. After all, my Baja buddies, you can't tow a significant amount more than an Outback, and cargo area and capacity is pretty negligible when stuffing bags of mulch in the back. Subarus rule because there ARE ways to adjust camber and castor, two main reasons other manufacturers would need to develop a whole new rear set-up. My Forester smokes my Leg, BTW, but the Leg catches up in the corners.
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Old 04-17-2005, 01:19 AM   #43
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ION Performance has a set of lowering springs for the '00-04 legacies. if we run Legacy struts we are good to go on lowering.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=750470

Refresh my memory, what was determined to be the difference with the '05s getting an additional inch of height. Do the '05s have additional bodylift spacers?

thanks!
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Old 04-19-2005, 02:12 AM   #44
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any ideas on the extra lift for the '05s?
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Old 04-19-2005, 04:54 PM   #45
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yeah, id like to know too, anyone been able to fit a set of 30"s up under the baja? perhaps with a 15" rim and a little cutting?
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Old 04-21-2005, 12:49 AM   #46
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I'd like to get a setup something along these lines:


more of a street truck than off-road truck as many of you guys prefer.
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Old 04-21-2005, 01:06 AM   #47
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Ide love to lower my Baja, in fact it would be great to track the thing and beat up on some porsches. But Im kinda liking not scraping the front end on everything like my Impreza did. So as long as I have my Impreza as a track car I think im going to leave the soft, tall suspension alone. But one day I will probably still lower it, so I like seeing these pics.
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Old 04-23-2005, 01:30 PM   #48
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I've looked into lowering my Baja and the guys at Xcceleration told me that Whiteline makes springs for the baja, and lowered it slightly less then an inch. They were expensive, and had to be order from Austrailia. And to comment on the Chassis type of the baja, some one was off earlier by saying it is the same as the WRX/STI.
Model: Chassis:
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Also has anyone found any slotted only rotors for the front AND BACK for the baja. And does the OEM rear rotor part number cross with anyother Subaru vehicle??
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Old 04-27-2005, 04:55 PM   #49
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I wonder what installing 2003 Baja springs would do, I saw one today and it looked so much lower. With 17" rims, it probably wouldn't need any more of a drop.
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Old 04-27-2005, 06:01 PM   #50
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I wonder what installing 2003 Baja springs would do, I saw one today and it looked so much lower. With 17" rims, it probably wouldn't need any more of a drop.
Try contacting that guy in Dallas that bought my '05 springs for his '03 (was it blubajao3? can't remember but it was in one of the lift threads). He got roughly an inch lift as I remember strictly from the springs, so it should work the other way around.
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