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Old 04-09-2014, 04:14 PM   #1
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Question 2015 WRX OEM LED headlights.

The reason I am posting is because I was told by
a guy at the parts department that the
2015 WRX LED headlights won't be plug n play
since I have the 2015 WRX w/Halogen lights.

Maybe he is correct and the wiring is different,
but I do want confirmation from a Subaru expert/specialist
or another person that works for Subaru here
that can clarify this matter to me.
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:34 PM   #2
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I wondering the same as well. It'll be hard to tell until someone can side by side compare the headlight wiring.

Nevertheless, I'm sure lightwerkz would be able to work up a harness just like they do for the Halogen/WRX headlights to the STi/HID headlights.
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:55 PM   #3
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I wondering the same as well. It'll be hard to tell until someone can side by side compare the headlight wiring.

Nevertheless, I'm sure lightwerkz would be able to work up a harness just like they do for the Halogen/WRX headlights to the STi/HID headlights.
You don't need a harness for the 08-14 WRX/STI HID swap. It's all 100% plug and play (unless you want them working on heights adjustment and i don't think that was ever made)
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Old 04-09-2014, 05:30 PM   #4
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You don't need a harness for the 08-14 WRX/STI HID swap. It's all 100% plug and play (unless you want them working on heights adjustment and i don't think that was ever made)
Oh wow, I didn't know that was the case for the 08-14 headlights. Maybe Subaru was smart and decided to make them plug and play for the '15.

All I have experience with is my 04 that I installed STi HID's into. I'm currently not running the level motors so I'm not too worried about that.

I did see in this video, they pointed out the level motor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRmBKlASE4g
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Old 04-09-2014, 05:36 PM   #5
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You don't need a harness for the 08-14 WRX/STI HID swap. It's all 100% plug and play (unless you want them working on heights adjustment and i don't think that was ever made)
I am hoping for manual height adjustment..
because even on the halogen there is a way to
adjust the beam height manually ...

The best case scenario for me is the lights are plug n play
minus height adjustment
( and if it can adjust it manually then we are good)
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Old 04-09-2014, 07:10 PM   #6
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I am hoping for manual height adjustment..
because even on the halogen there is a way to
adjust the beam height manually ...

The best case scenario for me is the lights are plug n play
minus height adjustment
( and if it can adjust it manually then we are good)
Height adjustment meaning with the switch to move it up and down from inside the car.

You can still adjust the headlights (hid and halogen) with the bolt on the headlight housing.
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Old 04-09-2014, 07:35 PM   #7
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Default I hope Subaru use one LED headlight in mutiple vehicles to save cost.

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Height adjustment meaning with the switch to move it up and down from inside the car.

You can still adjust the headlights (hid and halogen) with the bolt on the headlight housing.
Good sir, thanks for the info.

Now I just need official confirmation on if I can plug and play
these 2015 LED headlights.
The same lights that is on the USDM model seem to be same
with other models around the world.
The headlights on the Subaru LeVorg seem to be the same as well.

Subaru being Subaru will most likely use ONE headlight system that plugs
into many cars (WRX/LEVORG JDM/USDM) to save cost of development.

kinda like how the 2015 Outback (lifted Legacy wagon) will use the
same headlights as the Legacy.

I hope I am on the money here.
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:35 PM   #8
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I hope they are plug and play too! But I'm willing to bet they'll be crazy expensive. I'm getting my 2015 with halogens next week.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:01 PM   #9
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The probably won't be plug and play, but any of the retrofit shops can build a custom harness to make the PnP. Also, it seems like the going price for BRZ HID headlamps are ~670 per side including the ballast and bulb. Hopefully the WRX LED headlamps will be similar.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:05 PM   #10
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The probably won't be plug and play, but any of the retrofit shops can build a custom harness to make the PnP. Also, it seems like the going price for BRZ HID headlamps are ~670 per side including the ballast and bulb. Hopefully the WRX LED headlamps will be similar.
It really surprised me, but the 08-14 STi headlights are plug and play when installed on halogen equipped cars. So maybe we will get lucky.
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Old 04-10-2014, 07:25 AM   #11
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FWIW, the Crosstrek hybrid LED taillights don't PnP in the Impreza. I have a feeling that unless the LED headlights are available as a factory or dealer option for the lower models, it will be the same case for the '15.
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Old 04-10-2014, 08:59 AM   #12
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They're probably going to be $800 plus, most car manufactures that offer led headlights charge $800-1,800 (each side) depending. At that point you would be better off with a retrofit.
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I got an email back from Subaru customer service (soa maybe)
that it would not be compatible/not recommended ...

I also saw in the march issue of motortrend ...
there was an article on the 2015 WRX and the car they had
was most likely a pre-production model since it had manufacture plates,
but that CAR in the photo/review had Front bumper (undrilled),
6 speed manual w/touch screen nav... and MOST importantly
the LED headlights...

The LED headlights in the Levorg will probably work on the USDM cars,
so I guess its a waiting game and who will be the first to drop $ to find out...

OR

someone w/2015 WRX and halogen lamps meets the guys at
Mishimoto ( since their car is taken apart)
and do a test fit to see if it works.
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:19 AM   #14
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During our last Subaru club meet , Lachute Subaru came out with a 2015 STI so I took a quick minute to take a photo of the LED projector's beam pattern.
This was parked about 20 feet from the wall.


In comparison this is the Morimoto Bi-xenon retrofit we performed last week on our 15 WRX ( 25ft from the wall ).


I haven't yet driven one with LED projectors at night but just looking at the differences the intensity is not comparable to HID and the width either.
The LED units will likely be over 800-1000$ each VS half that for custom built set that will perform better. It's a no brainer IMO.

Fast forward 1 week , while taking delivery of our 2015 WRX I had both LED and halogen equipped cars right next to each other so I took the time to take pics.
Quickly comparing both , the connectors are the same. The number of wires is different though.
It might just be a matter of re-pinning the connectors correctly. I won't be able to confirm this until we get an LED equipped car in the shop.

Halogen


LED


LED 10 pins


Halogen 6 pins



www.prolightz.com
https://www.facebook.com/prolightz.hid.led
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:30 AM   #15
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Interesting. I would assume that possibly the 3 missing wires might be from the height adjustment motor (power/ground/signal). Or I'm completely wrong and the three wires are for the led strip. Any idea if the led dim when going from parking to headlights on?

It'd be great if rally sport direct would attempt the swap since they own both the base wrx and the sti

Edit: never mind I misread. Thought it said 9 and 6, not 10 and 6. So they in fact might not work at least with the led portion.
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Do you have any pictures of the 2015's headlights apart?
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https://www.facebook.com/prolightz.hid.led

Look in the 15 WRX bi-xenon retrofit album
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Wow, the custom HID unit kills the LED OEM on the limited. Well, that answers one question...retrofit all the way.

My few concerns are...dependability, i do not want to blind people so light level hight is a concern, and how do I get them to do this for me since I have no experience with this.
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Wow, the custom HID unit kills the LED OEM on the limited. Well, that answers one question...retrofit all the way.

My few concerns are...dependability, i do not want to blind people so light level hight is a concern, and how do I get them to do this for me since I have no experience with this.
After you do the retrofit, you go to a flat surface with a wall and adjust. The headlights have two adjusters; vertical and horizontal.

25 feet from wall. Your beam wants to measure approximately 2" lower than your center part of projector (measure it with measuring tape. I think the older wrx stock height was like 26", so you want the top of your beam at like 24")

Horizontal measurement is more trial and error. You want the beam to merge into a single _/---- when you move further away from a all. When you're at 25' you want them to look like this: _/--_/----
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Humor me.

Are these actual LED road illuminating headlamps <or> are these LED accented headlamps (the LED's do not illuminate the roadway)?
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Humor me.

Are these actual LED road illuminating headlamps <or> are these LED accented headlamps (the LED's do not illuminate the roadway)?
I "think" they're standard d2s hid headlights with led accents.
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After you do the retrofit, you go to a flat surface with a wall and adjust. The headlights have two adjusters; vertical and horizontal. 25 feet from wall. Your beam wants to measure approximately 2" lower than your center part of projector (measure it with measuring tape. I think the older wrx stock height was like 26", so you want the top of your beam at like 24") Horizontal measurement is more trial and error. You want the beam to merge into a single _/---- when you move further away from a all. When you're at 25' you want them to look like this: _/--_/----
Thanks for that! Great info!

Now, Im assuming to do this retrofit I'm going to need to remove the bumper is that correct?

If so, then you would do the manual adjustments while the bumper is off right?

Also...anyone have picture of those adjustment knobs?
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Thanks for that! Great info!

Now, Im assuming to do this retrofit I'm going to need to remove the bumper is that correct?

If so, then you would do the manual adjustments while the bumper is off right?

Also...anyone have picture of those adjustment knobs?
Yes the bumper comes off and no you don't need to have it off to adjust the heights. They're 8 or 10mm bolts that you can adjust with a socket set
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You'll need to take the headlights apart to get to the internals.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2560556
This is on my old 07 impreza but how to mount a projector where the OEM one is. Now if you use a smaller projector like a mini h1 you more than likely won't need to cut anything away rather than make a bracket for them. I'm sure the retrofit source will be making some sort of quick retro kit just like they did for 06-14 imprezas.
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Good link...I'm back on the scared off path lol.
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