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Old 04-24-2015, 09:47 AM   #1
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Default LED projection all wacky

Just installed VX3 LEDs from VLEDS last weekend and the projection is messed up.

The passenger has a weird triangular gap towards the right and there is also a bump at the cut off.

The drivers side is almost perfect except it also has a smudge at the cutoff and there is a weird spot to the top right.

I haven't gotten a chance to make any adjustments but I figured I'd get some opinions before I tamper with it these weekend. Nothing appears to be blocking the light and it is secure in the housing.

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Old 04-24-2015, 10:39 AM   #2
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Is that on the OE halogen projector?
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Old 04-24-2015, 10:55 AM   #3
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Is that on the OE halogen projector?
Yes it is. Not ideal, I know but it seems to work fine minus these weird issues above.
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Old 04-24-2015, 01:11 PM   #4
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It's as bad of an idea as putting in a plug and play HIDs.
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Old 04-24-2015, 01:28 PM   #5
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It's as bad of an idea as putting in a plug and play HIDs.
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Proper beam pattern is very difficult to assess subjectively. Having said that, for most that live in urban areas, street lighting and proper light from other vehicles most likely make the difference between substandard and great low beam lighting difficult to notice; as long as the vehicle won't be driven in areas without other source of light, it may not matter that much.

On the other hand, the amount of light distributed above the horizontal line, which from the picture in post #1 seem to suggest, may be too much. It may glare onto oncoming traffic.

Easy and "bright" do not necessarily equate with good lighting.
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Old 04-24-2015, 01:31 PM   #6
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Proper beam pattern is very difficult to assess subjectively. Having said that, for most that live in urban areas, street lighting and proper light from other vehicles most likely make the difference between substandard and great low beam lighting difficult to notice; as long as the vehicle won't be driven in areas without other source of light, it may not matter that much.

On the other hand, the amount of light distributed above the horizontal line, which from the picture in post #1 seem to suggest, may be too much. It may glare onto oncoming traffic.

Easy and "bright" do not necessarily equate with good lighting.
The glare actually isn't bad at all. Obviously the high beams are piercing but those are rarely used. Any insight on that missing gap to the right? If I can fix that I would be content.
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Old 04-24-2015, 04:49 PM   #7
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Trust me, that glare is pretty bad. It might not look like nothing up against the wall but it is.

Now this is what zero glare looks like against the wall.
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:35 PM   #8
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Yea you def have a lot of light bleeding too out of the LEDS.
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Old 04-24-2015, 07:51 PM   #9
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Trust me, that glare is pretty bad. It might not look like nothing up against the wall but it is.

Now this is what zero glare looks like against the wall.

Damn. Are those with LEDs in halogen projectors?

I'm gonna play around with it this weekend. I also think that the inside of my lenses are dirty so I'm going to try and clean them better.
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Old 04-24-2015, 10:18 PM   #10
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Damn. Are those with LEDs in halogen projectors?

I'm gonna play around with it this weekend. I also think that the inside of my lenses are dirty so I'm going to try and clean them better.
No its HID projectors retrofit. No plug and play can achieve this kind of output. Believe me.
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Old 04-24-2015, 10:44 PM   #11
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No its HID projectors retrofit. No plug and play can achieve this kind of output. Believe me.
Ah makes sense. Honestly I know this sounds stupid but I wouldn't mind the glare or bleed as long as I get rid of that freakin gap. There doesn't appear to be anything blocking the light on the lense or the projector. I'll have to take it apart this weekend and examine it further.
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Old 04-25-2015, 04:20 AM   #12
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...and the kiddies don't care that they are blinding oncoming traffic at night and might just be responsible for killing somebody who cant see because kiddies wanted to be k00
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:35 AM   #13
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I've had the same problem when i installed an led for the headlight, the light projection of an led doesn't match projectors since led lights are projected on a directional pattern. You're better off putting an hid on the headlight if you want it really bright, just make sure that the ground return wire on the bulb would sit on the bottom of the projector. Did this to mine and saw a huge difference.
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Old 04-25-2015, 12:22 PM   #14
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Hey im about to do a oem sti retro, i bought tsxr clear lenses and ive done a ton of reading up on all this stuff... I understand basic optics from my physics classes in school and whatnot and i now that i need to adjust the lenses with washers to get it close to the focal length so the cut off is crisp... I plan on using washers to space the lens craddle and tinkering till i find the correct spacing, only problem is my tsxr lens do not fit tightly in the cradle, ive talked to a few people and heard a few different suggestions to get them to fit snug in there... But im asking everybody whos knowledgeable there opinion before i try to do it... What would you suggest? Paper spacers? A dab of jb weld? Or maybe some wire in there to hold it in place? Thanks!

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Old 04-25-2015, 02:48 PM   #15
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Do you know what projectors fit a 2015? I saw something that the Mini D2s basically fit anything and that someone was able to fit the RX350. Can you confirm?

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Hey im about to do a oem sti retro, i bought tsxr clear lenses and ive done a ton of reading up on all this stuff... I understand basic optics from my physics classes in school and whatnot and i now that i need to adjust the lenses with washers to get it close to the focal length so the cut off is crisp... I plan on using washers to space the lens craddle and tinkering till i find the correct spacing, only problem is my tsxr lens do not fit tightly in the cradle, ive talked to a few people and heard a few different suggestions to get them to fit snug in there... But im asking everybody whos knowledgeable there opinion before i try to do it... What would you suggest? Paper spacers? A dab of jb weld? Or maybe some wire in there to hold it in place? Thanks!
The thing with the TSX-R clear lens on the STi hid projectors is, You won't get a consistent sharp cutoff line throughout. You either get a sharp and colorful cutoff line at the steps but blurred lines at each end because of the oem flat cutoff plate. TSX-R lens works great with curved cutoff plates but not so much on flat ones.

Here's my custom bixenon conversion on an STi projectors. As you can see I used the Mini H1 curved cutoff plates to achieve this output.

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Do you know what projectors fit a 2015? I saw something that the Mini D2s basically fit anything and that someone was able to fit the RX350. Can you confirm?
I'm not sure about which projectors will fit on the 2015 but I have seen the Mini D2S 3.0 projectors sits nicely in them. Someone did them and I remembered seeing it.
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The thing with the TSX-R clear lens on the STi hid projectors is, You won't get a consistent sharp cutoff line throughout. You either get a sharp and colorful cutoff line at the steps but blurred lines at each end because of the oem flat cutoff plate. TSX-R lens works great with curved cutoff plates but not so much on flat ones.

Here's my custom bixenon conversion on an STi projectors. As you can see I used the Mini H1 curved cutoff plates to achieve this output.

Ya i did read that but i really dont want to mess with making custom shields, ill just tune them up the best i can... But what about getting the lenses to fit securely in the black cradles? How did you keep them in place, mine wobble around and i can spin them pretty easily...
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Ya i did read that but i really dont want to mess with making custom shields, ill just tune them up the best i can... But what about getting the lenses to fit securely in the black cradles? How did you keep them in place, mine wobble around and i can spin them pretty easily...
You can try a dab of JBKwik inside the lens holder. That should take care of the wobbling.
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Old 04-27-2015, 09:18 AM   #20
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I'm the one that stuck RX-350 bi-xenon projectors in my 2015. Note that the 2015 lights use 3" projectors where previous models only used 2 1/2" projectors.

I needed to trim a little on the projector and a little on the housing to fit the solenoid, but otherwise, it was an easy fit as far as retrofits go.
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