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Old 10-10-2007, 01:43 PM   #2501
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So the alternator is a concern, but it shouldn't be an issue?
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:10 PM   #2502
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Ok, I'm working on a setup with paranoid.

I have the micros in the fog pattern. Should the four other lights all be driving lights or a mix or two driving and two cornering or something else?

Will my stock battery handle these bad boys?
I'd go for 4 drivings. Or 2 drivings and 2 pencils. The drivings are actually wide enough that several of them ganged up will allow you to see around corners well enough until you're trying to run around VERY tight hairpins at speed. Which I've done. Driving into a black hole sucks.

You might want to querry some of the hardcore guys like Psydotek, Rapid_Roo, etc, since they have mega crazy lights for the ITN rallies.
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Old 10-10-2007, 05:40 PM   #2503
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So the alternator is a concern, but it shouldn't be an issue?
basically.

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I'd go for 4 drivings. Or 2 drivings and 2 pencils. The drivings are actually wide enough that several of them ganged up will allow you to see around corners well enough until you're trying to run around VERY tight hairpins at speed. Which I've done. Driving into a black hole sucks.

You might want to querry some of the hardcore guys like Psydotek, Rapid_Roo, etc, since they have mega crazy lights for the ITN rallies.
light pattern and coverage is more important that pure power, especially if you are driving into the unknown.


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Old 10-10-2007, 11:18 PM   #2504
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for my setup im goin wit Lightforce 170mm in stock locations driver in spot pass in flood wit yellow covers one of these days ill get down to installing them
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:00 PM   #2505
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I totally forgot about lightforce. I heard their products are pretty bitchin!

How do they compare to Hella?
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:26 AM   #2506
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ive never had hella optics just bulbs and horns
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:37 AM   #2507
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Couple questions.
I'm installing my hella micros in the stock location this week. Do I need to remove the bumper to do this?
Would anyone know how to wire this up if I used an LED in one of my reverse lights?? Here's a thread I made.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1369891
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:45 AM   #2508
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Easier to remove the bumper, but not required. IMHO

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Old 10-22-2007, 10:34 PM   #2509
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One more question. I just got my factory fog light surrounds today and had a question for where to bolt the hella micros. Top or bottom? There is no metal bracket, just the plastic bumper and that means they are going to vibrate considerably correct??

Here's a couple pics of what's behind the sti cover and the hella fog light bracket.

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Old 10-22-2007, 10:48 PM   #2510
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I'm 90% sure that if you press up into the top of that hole (unless it's WAY different than the 04-05s), you'll feel the metal bumper behind the plastic skin. Drill through the skin into the metal of the bumper.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:02 PM   #2511
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I'll be removing the bumper tomorrow. If I have problems, I'll post some pics with questions.

My main concern is the top thing that sticks out. The brackets holes match up to the corner edge of both sides of that thing. <---I can't make my words make sense tonight, but I think you know what I'm talking about.
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:11 PM   #2512
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Update:
Ok so eveything is mounted and wired except for a single blue wire that hella wanted me to tap into the headlight wire. Without it, there is no power to the switch, but if I wire it up to the headlight, they will turn off when the brights are engaged.
I don't want that to happen.

I want to tap the wire into my parking lights. That way I can have the swtich on at all times and the lights only turn on when I turn the parking lights on. It would pretty much act as a fog light switch and they wont turn off when the brights are on.
I need a confirmation to see if this would work. Let me know guys.
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:19 PM   #2513
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Ok so eveything is mounted and wired except for a single blue wire that hella wanted me to tap into the headlight wire. Without it, there is no power to the switch, but if I wire it up to the headlight, they will turn off when the brights are engaged.
I don't want that to happen.

I want to tap the wire into my parking lights. That way I can have the swtich on at all times and the lights only turn on when I turn the parking lights on. It would pretty much act as a fog light switch and they wont turn off when the brights are on.
I need a confirmation to see if this would work. Let me know guys.
It works, because that's how mine are done, but I'm not sure you can do it with the hella harness as-is. In the steering column, there's a solid-orange wire that goes +12V when the parking lights are switched on. Connect that wire to one side of the fog light switch. Connect the other side of the fog light switch to the +trigger on the relay. Connect the ground side of the relay trigger to ground. Wire fogs to the load side as normal. The fogs will now be on anytime both the parking light switch and the fog light switch are hot. Note that this is illegal in most states (fogs required to go off when high beams come on).
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Old 10-24-2007, 02:22 PM   #2514
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I tested the wire and it just needs power, so why wouldn't it work if I just tapped it into the hot wire to the corner light?
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Old 10-24-2007, 02:29 PM   #2515
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If you find a combination that works for you, thats all you need. Just ensure you are using the proper relay so that you are not drawing to many amps on the circuit for the PL's.

Sounds like you found your answer. As long as all of your light work the way you want them to.

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I tested the wire and it just needs power, so why wouldn't it work if I just tapped it into the hot wire to the corner light?
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:27 PM   #2516
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I tested the wire and it just needs power, so why wouldn't it work if I just tapped it into the hot wire to the corner light?
It'll work that way too. The only advantage to doing it the way I mentioned is that it only requires 1 wire run through the firewall.
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:27 PM   #2517
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just got my set up done a few days ago and im thinking 2 more in the center. let me know what you think!


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Old 10-25-2007, 08:58 PM   #2518
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Sooo I was thinking....


Has anyone mounted big fogs in the regular fog light location on 04s?

I have nothing there, just fog covers. If I cut out a portion of the fog cover, replicat the mesh in the grill and put it over the openeing. I could mount the lights to the bottom side of the fog light area..

What do you guys think?
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:02 PM   #2519
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^^Very nice! Add two more! Are they 500's or 1000's and what beam pattern? Any pics at night..post em up!

Williaty:: the blue wire I speak of is already routed to the relay that came with the kit and there is only one wire. So I just don't get how there would be two sides or wires to anything.
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:19 PM   #2520
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Williaty:: the blue wire I speak of is already routed to the relay that came with the kit and there is only one wire. So I just don't get how there would be two sides or wires to anything.
Relays have a minimum of four internal connections. There's a connection to supply high amperage 12V to the really. There's a switched connection to supply power to the load. There's a ground for the trigger side. There's a +12V input for the trigger side.

When you apply +12V to the trigger input, the current passes through a coil and then out the ground side of the trigger. The current flowing through the coil forms a magnetic field, pulling the switch on the load side closed, allowing the high-current +12V supply to flow across to your lights.
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:42 PM   #2521
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So I totaled my Subaru... luckily I was able to recover the lights... Now I am trying to convert them into a light source in my room...

What would be the best way to wire them (four Hella 500's) to run off of a 120VAC outlet?

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Old 10-25-2007, 11:46 PM   #2522
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What would be the best way to wire them (four Hella 500's) to run off of a 120VAC outlet?
Go to RatHack. They sell (or at least used to) things that plugged into wall outlets and provide 12VDC power. Only way to be safe unless you have enough EE experience to make one yourself.
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:52 PM   #2523
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they are the 500 driving lights. so im looking for some fogs for cheeeeap to put in the middle
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:40 AM   #2524
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you need a big powersupply, something around the 20amp size. but, i wouldnt bother doing this.

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Old 10-26-2007, 03:52 AM   #2525
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well I am not going to be putting these on a car anytime soon if I don't make them into some sort of lamp they will just be taking up space... unless someone wants to buy them off of me.
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