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Old 01-21-2005, 09:09 AM   #251
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Ohhhhh.... Buttons, switches, and on top of that, it's shiny...

But, i'll stick to my single toggle switch. For now.
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Old 01-21-2005, 12:33 PM   #252
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First crazy person to put this in their car for auxiliary lighting gets 5 cookies. I vote Rapid_roo for Psydotek.

I want where do you buy it?
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Old 01-21-2005, 04:22 PM   #253
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try here: http://tenant.depart.livedoor.com/t/...tail?id=346274

it's Japanese, but I think that is where the product is originating from.
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Old 01-22-2005, 09:30 PM   #254
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I met these folks at Rim of the World, and at the SCCA/USRRA National Road Rally, they are really cool. I wish I could do that ALCAN Rally

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Old 01-22-2005, 11:06 PM   #255
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^^^The only problem with having a light pod like that (car with the girl ) is that airflow to the intercooler is almost completely blocked... It would only really work if you had an FMIC.
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Old 01-22-2005, 11:09 PM   #256
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I've probably overlooked the reasoning, but why did Subaru decide to close the lower fascia openings (pre '04) and instead choose to use a quaint little penlight? This seems to be contrary to logic.

Now, for argument's sake, suppose I were to purchase a pair of Hella 500 fogs (amber) w/mount brackets. I am assuming I will either have to cut and splice the original wiring to fit the Hellas, or will have to order a fitting for the Hella to adapt to the wiring. ???? And will my (Primitive) mesh fog covers fit? (Repeat question, sorry.)

Hopefully RI will come through with their '02-'03 bumper skid.

May I ask for a recommendation? I will be adding a pair of driving lights either to the bar itself or through the grill. I get to work around 6:45 am in the Winter months and 5:45 am (or earlier) during the Spring through Fall months. The roads I drive are all rural and teeming with wildlife. There's not too much traffic at that time of day. Can I tap a pair of Hella FF1000s directly into the stock headlight assembly's harness for power and activation with the light stalk when I flip on the high beams; and if I can, should I? Or should I keep these auxiliary lights on a seperate switch.

Just curious.

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Old 01-22-2005, 11:30 PM   #257
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You can tap them in for the trigger, but the actual power should be tapped from the battery. As for the cut and splice the original wiring, you will use (cut and splice) the low beams for the trigger on the relay that's provided by hella, but this wont affect the functioning of the stock low beams/high beams in any way. You'll also probably want to have a seperate switch, just so that you can have your low beams on, and NOT have fogs on all the time.

RI will come through (and soon from what i've read in this thread).

Also, do you want fog lights or driving lights? you've said both in your post, so are we talking about both? Driving lights are hooked up to the high beams, and cast more light farther, while fog lights cast the light closer to the front of the car.

I dont know what you mean by "quaint little penlight" that "little penlight" in the pre-04's is pretty big, as big as a Hella 500. I've also seen the FF1000's in those spots. As for '04 and later, there are kits out there to fit a hella 500 in those spots.
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Old 01-22-2005, 11:48 PM   #258
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I've probably overlooked the reasoning, but why did Subaru decide to close the lower fascia openings (pre '04) and instead choose to use a quaint little penlight? This seems to be contrary to logic.
product planners at their best who knows maybe they were trying to gentrify the Impreza.
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Now, for argument's sake, suppose I were to purchase a pair of Hella 500 fogs (amber) w/mount brackets. I am assuming I will either have to cut and splice the original wiring to fit the Hellas, or will have to order a fitting for the Hella to adapt to the wiring. ???? And will my (Primitive) mesh fog covers fit? (Repeat question, sorry.)
not sure about the covers, but If I recall, I think I just cut the harness of and spliced in the Hella one.
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May I ask for a recommendation? I will be adding a pair of driving lights either to the bar itself or through the grill. I get to work around 6:45 am in the Winter months and 5:45 am (or earlier) during the Spring through Fall months. The roads I drive are all rural and teeming with wildlife. There's not too much traffic at that time of day. Can I tap a pair of Hella FF1000s directly into the stock headlight assembly's harness for power and activation with the light stalk when I flip on the high beams; and if I can, should I? Or should I keep these auxiliary lights on a seperate switch.
No, you shouldn't. The stock harness can't handle that much current. You should use a relay and wire it seperately. You can tap the stock headlight harness to trigger the relay so that they turn on at the same time as the high beams.

You may want to keep it on a seperate switch, just for the occasion that you need to use highbeams without having up to light up the night sky.

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Old 01-23-2005, 12:55 AM   #259
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RI will come through (and soon from what i've read in this thread).
Really, they will. Real Life™ unfortunately gets in the way sometimes... (it's partly my fault too, i gotta find time to meet back up with them)


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I dont know what you mean by "quaint little penlight" that "little penlight" in the pre-04's is pretty big, as big as a Hella 500. I've also seen the FF1000's in those spots. As for '04 and later, there are kits out there to fit a hella 500 in those spots.
It's because the bumper beam gets in the way... If you look at the JDM imprezas, they've got the bigger foglamps. The USDM bumper beam is bigger, taking up more space behind the foglamps so they had to use a smaller projector lens lamp instead.

For Hagwag02, i recommend replacing the OEM foglamps with probably a set of Hella500 foglamps, then putting some driving lamps on the bar. Better short range spread for helping to see the sides of the road and the driving lamps will increase the range you can see.
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Old 01-23-2005, 02:25 AM   #260
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For Hagwag02, i recommend replacing the OEM foglamps with probably a set of Hella500 foglamps, then putting some driving lamps on the bar. Better short range spread for helping to see the sides of the road and the driving lamps will increase the range you can see.
also fogs belong low and wide and the driving beams should be high and tight.

(?why does that sound wierd? any way you get the picture )

why o why are the Hella 500s always on sale but never the fogs? I wonder if they still have the fogs with yellow lenses?
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Old 01-23-2005, 02:29 AM   #261
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Really, they will. Real Life™ unfortunately gets in the way sometimes... (it's partly my fault too, i gotta find time to meet back up with them)
I am going on Tues. to finish working on the new lightrail come by. You should see these on. I just came back from a little bit of "testing", and I think I am done now



...now let's hope that the alternator hold up.
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:17 AM   #262
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Hey Psydotek,

you had the 450's that were amber, right? How were they. I was thinking of getting the 500's in amber/fog. I wonder how it would work with the Hella Yellowstar bulbs?



...on my way to that Six Star Magazine photoshoot. I was exiting the fwy and a dump truck dropped something that hit the windshield and the front of the car the windshield has yet another ding in it and when I took a look at the front of the car, I took a direct hit on one of my Hella 4000s . Thankfully the lexan stone shields did their job and took the hit but now I have to get another shield
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:32 AM   #263
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Well, they were 530's with amber fog lenses, but the Hella 500 lenses use the same diffuser style. It works well and is very yellow. I think using yellowstars with foglamps that already have amber lenses may decrease light output a bit much along with projecting a riduculously yellow light. They're bright and yellow enough with plain halogen bulbs.

I just got my yellowstar bulbs last week and i plan to put them in clear Hella 500 foglamps in a month or 2 to replace the driving lamps. (then i'll have another set of auxiliary lamps laying in the garage for a total of 3 sets...)

Remember, stone shields only cost $10-12 each.
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:43 AM   #264
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just got my yellowstar bulbs last week and i plan to put them in clear Hella 500 foglamps in a month or 2 to replace the driving lamps. (then i'll have another set of auxiliary lamps laying in the garage for a total of 3...)
That's why you need a second car. Gives them a new home to be. So are you suggesting that I just get the Hella 500s in the clear/fog pattern?

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Remember, stone shields only cost $10-12 each.
yeah but everytime I order something from www.rallylights.com there is something new that I want. Have you seen the new Hella 4000 compact!

Its never just the $15 for the shield.
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:48 AM   #265
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Yeah, if you have the yellowstar bulbs it probably is just better to get the clear lamps so in the future you can switch light color by changing bulbs rather than the entire lens.

Dude, i was looking for pics of the Hella 4000 compacts but i couldn't find them...

[maybe i really shouldn't look, i might be tempted to buy them...] er i mean
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http://www.hella.com/produktion/Hell...R4KCompact.jsp



just remember that's going to be an all Metal Lamp, John will have a heart attack if you try mounting it to the skid gaurd ( I just love giving him a challenge )


I know what I am putting my Legacy when I get it.
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:01 PM   #267
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Must resist the temptation!

They're smaller in diameter than my FF1000s... They probably would fit on the skidguard and all you'd need is afew extra braces or some duct tape for the extra weight.

[when're you getting a legacy?]

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not sure. With the baby on the way, we are going to need something bigger and with a softer suspension. Gotta get this house purchase out of the way first. Maybe next year, or whenever the Legacy STi comes out. [and no I am not trading my WRX: it will just for Road Rallies ] I was thinking of getting a used Forester or a used G(C-M-F?) wagon to hold us over (probably have to get rid of my LX )
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Old 01-24-2005, 06:04 PM   #269
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Thanks for the info, guys. I've got this thread bookmarked.

I am planning on yellow fogs (500s) in the stock holes and a set of driving lights set higher (leaning toward the 1000s).

I just don't care for those small lamps (penlights) on the 04+ Imprezas. Lamps are meant to be large and round and practical.

I appreciate the help.
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Old 01-24-2005, 06:13 PM   #270
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Having seen the FF1000s on Psydoteks car, I can highly recommend them. They looked great.

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As an update, I am still waiting to recieve all of my lights. PIAA 540 fogs in JDM fog bezels and some discontinued 004x (not xt) driving lights mounted to custom brackets behind the grill mesh. Already made the driving brackets, luckily plenty wide as I'm about 1/2" short on depth (according to PIAA) after I get the grill in. Looks like I'll have to cut some holes and extend the back of the lights through the bracket faces. Hopefully trig and lense curvature are on my side and a slight downward angle (which I wanted anyway) will give me the clearance I need. Also hopefully, the radiator won't get hot enough to hurt anything, cause the backs of the lamps will be just shy of touching it.

As a bonus, the 004x kit was very reasonably priced, 74.97 shipped from cartoys.com. You can barely get 1 replacement 004xt lamp for that.

I'll post pics when all is done.
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As an update, I am still waiting to recieve all of my lights. PIAA 540 fogs in JDM fog bezels and some discontinued 004x (not xt) driving lights mounted to custom brackets behind the grill mesh. Already made the driving brackets, luckily plenty wide as I'm about 1/2" short on depth (according to PIAA) after I get the grill in. Looks like I'll have to cut some holes and extend the back of the lights through the bracket faces. Hopefully trig and lense curvature are on my side and a slight downward angle (which I wanted anyway) will give me the clearance I need. Also hopefully, the radiator won't get hot enough to hurt anything, cause the backs of the lamps will be just shy of touching it.

As a bonus, the 004x kit was very reasonably priced, 74.97 shipped from cartoys.com. You can barely get 1 replacement 004xt lamp for that.

I'll post pics when all is done.
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dang good price for the 004x's I paid more than that for sure (more than a year ago though) . I wouldn't worry about the radiator. I had them there for a while on my WRX. I have recently mounted them behind the grill on my GC, and they are working fine. With the right bulb in there, the 004x's are a very effective lighting tool

Please take some pix when you are done. It would be a nice addition to the tome of information that we have seemingly assembled here. (reminds me I need to take pix of mine )

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..(reminds me I need to take pix of mine )

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Word.

Really, i'll get pics eventually. At the latest, Feb. 5, 2005.
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