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Old 12-25-2008, 11:39 AM   #3901
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The most common place to mount is attached to the subframe. That's how most of the commercially available bars are.
this is a good place if you want your lights lower. if you want your lights higher (at or above the hood) I'd recommend doing it like I did and using the bumper beam to minimize the distance between the lights and the attachment point
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Old 12-25-2008, 02:13 PM   #3902
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i'm definitely thinking i'll copy your design. the only thing i don't like about it is how much bumper cover i'll have to cut. then again, if painted black it would look just fine.
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Old 12-25-2008, 02:15 PM   #3903
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i'm definitely thinking i'll copy your design. the only thing i don't like about it is how much bumper cover i'll have to cut. then again, if painted black it would look just fine.
I didn't have to cut any bumper cover that isn't visible. the only stuff i cut is underneath the bumper opening - you'd never see it unless you were lying under the bumper
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Old 12-25-2008, 02:20 PM   #3904
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yeah I know. when i photograph cars I'm usually down that low anyway
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Old 01-03-2009, 06:08 PM   #3905
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ok ive searched and im over it, whats the easiest way of mounting hella 500's in the bottom rad opening without buying a rally innovations bar. i have an 05 rs wagon. how much do the RI bars go for?

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Old 01-03-2009, 06:39 PM   #3906
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Old 01-03-2009, 06:43 PM   #3907
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im looking for something that's somewhat "barless", since with a bar = most expensive. ideally some simple sturdy brackets would be sweet, if someone can make some i'd totally pay for em!

EDIT: i found this bar setup that seems simple and really sick: http://public.fotki.com/snoozeSTI/ca...la_500_on_sti/

anyone know who's car it is?? i assume the guys name on here is snooze?

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Old 01-03-2009, 07:35 PM   #3908
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having them mounted that low is asking for something bad to happen...

but if that's where you want to mount them, I'd do two mounts coming off of the bolts in the front (the ones that hold the skid plate on) and then weld a curved bar to that. you'll want a secondary point since just that sort of setup will surely wobble a lot... you could probably figure out a way to use the license plate mounts
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Old 01-04-2009, 02:47 PM   #3909
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im looking for something that's somewhat "barless", since with a bar = most expensive. ideally some simple sturdy brackets would be sweet, if someone can make some i'd totally pay for em!

EDIT: i found this bar setup that seems simple and really sick: http://public.fotki.com/snoozeSTI/ca...la_500_on_sti/

anyone know who's car it is?? i assume the guys name on here is snooze?
If those lamps were mounted up by headlight level they'd be safer and much more useful as driving lights.
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Old 01-04-2009, 03:00 PM   #3910
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You guys didn't even bother to find out if he means 500 fogs or 500 drivings before you started telling to mount them higher....
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Old 01-04-2009, 03:27 PM   #3911
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You guys didn't even bother to find out if he means 500 fogs or 500 drivings before you started telling to mount them higher....
I was just saying they'll get ripped off sticking out from the bottom of the bumper... unless he never pulls into driveways or parking lots
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Old 01-04-2009, 03:28 PM   #3912
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While that's a valid consideration, if he's planning on fogs, the higher he places them the worse they're going to work.
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:30 PM   #3913
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they are fogs for sure, mounting them that low would be risky, but i really like them in front of the rad opening, if not, right where the plate mount is. im just looking for something cheap, clean, and doesnt have to be absolutely deadly stiff like huge bar or anything.
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:41 PM   #3914
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Fogs don't work if you mount them high. The single most important thing with fogs it the vertical distance between your eyes and the lights. In other words, they have to be as low as possible to work well. If you take fog lights and put them at the plate mount or higher, what you'll end up with is lights that suck as fogs and suck as drivings.
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:46 PM   #3915
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Fogs don't work if you mount them high. The single most important thing with fogs it the vertical distance between your eyes and the lights. In other words, they have to be as low as possible to work well. If you take fog lights and put them at the plate mount or higher, what you'll end up with is lights that suck as fogs and suck as drivings.
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Old 01-04-2009, 10:32 PM   #3916
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i still need some ideas for mounting them!!! i think i might just grab an RI bar because fabbing something isnt an option unless its very simple, i have basic tools where im living right now. maybe i can find a used one somewhere.... hmmmmmmmm

anyone have pics of brackets they wanna post up?
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Old 01-04-2009, 10:36 PM   #3917
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Fogs don't work if you mount them high. The single most important thing with fogs it the vertical distance between your eyes and the lights. In other words, they have to be as low as possible to work well. If you take fog lights and put them at the plate mount or higher, what you'll end up with is lights that suck as fogs and suck as drivings.
I wouldn't /thread..../current offtopic is better...but yeah...I found that out the hard way...sadly. High mount fogs b-low all sorts....lesson learned.
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Old 01-05-2009, 11:45 AM   #3918
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still looking for creative and simple bracket ideas for a lower rad opening fog mount. not finding much right now, anyone wanna make me a light bar??
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^^ From what I've seen, most people use the lower bolts that you'd normally use for a skid plate. Most also try somehow to use the license plate holes to reduce/eliminate vibrations.
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still looking for creative and simple bracket ideas for a lower rad opening fog mount. not finding much right now, anyone wanna make me a light bar??
I have an older bar laying around that I don't need but its made for driving lights. Its mounted up high, almost even with the headlights. I had some fogs on there, but they were pretty useless when I actually needed to use them as fogs.


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ok i got hella 500 fogs and all i have to do is hook up the green wire, supposed to be tapped to the high beam 12v+ for power or something, but i want my lights to be COMPLETELY independent from the lows and highs, not on when there's solar eclipse, or off when the moon lines up with pluto. i want the switch (hella switch) to turn them on, and off. nothing fancy.

THANK YOU!!!! AND I NEED INFO ASAP, im doing this next morning!
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Find a wire under the dash that's hot when the car is on. Tap that and connect it to one side of the switch. Connect the other side of the switch to the green wire.

Just remember that this gives you the ability to think that your lights are on because you've got light in front of you but you're completely dark out back. Good way to get rear ended. It's much safer to tap the parking light wire to feed the switch for your Hellas so that you are assured of at least having some rear illumination.
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:56 AM   #3923
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which wire is for the parking lights?
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:59 AM   #3924
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Subaru changes the wire color more often than they change their underwear. Thankfully, you have the exact same model and year that I do. If you take the cover off the bottom of the steering column, you'll pretty clearly see the wiring harness for the headlight/blinker control stock. IIRC, it's the solid orange one from that bundle. Test it to make sure (off when parking lights are off, on when you twist the stalk to Parking Lights or Headlights).
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Also under the dash there should be a few unused relay slots to the right of the fuse box. If you want something to be hot at all times, you can tap in there.
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