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Old 12-11-2011, 04:52 PM   #5401
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if you have a multimeter, you can tap into the wire coming off the stalk. Couldn't tell ya at them moment which on, but with a meter, and your high's turned on, you can find the wire getting current pretty easily.
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Old 12-11-2011, 06:22 PM   #5402
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the dunner must own some Hella stock! lol.

Crazy lights there. Can you see yet?!
Not yet still planning on converting all to HID, and mylaring the tops yellow and fronts blue.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:40 AM   #5403
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Ya the RallyInnovations style is nice BUT I hear it's made like **** and is flimsy. I want a lightbar that mounts to the bumper beam like the way the top of snowracer's lightbar
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:06 PM   #5404
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Ya the RallyInnovations style is nice BUT I hear it's made like **** and is flimsy. I want a lightbar that mounts to the bumper beam like the way the top of snowracer's lightbar
You're right, it is made like **** and is flimsy, not to mention over priced. Mine started rusting after a couple months of having it
Also their customer service is non-existant when i had issues installing it because the mounting holes didn't line up with anything. Which i ended up having to redrill them.

Definitely have a speed shop make you one to your liking. more than likely they will stand behind what they build.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:11 PM   #5405
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You're right, it is made like **** and is flimsy, not to mention over priced. Mine started rusting after a couple months of having it
Also their customer service is non-existant when i had issues installing it because the mounting holes didn't line up with anything. Which i ended up having to redrill them.

Definitely have a speed shop make you one to your liking. more than likely they will stand behind what they build.
Agree 100%

That's what I decided to do.
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Old 12-12-2011, 09:38 PM   #5406
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Cant comment on the flimsiness, as I did not use the normal mounts.. but the customer service at Rally Innovations is pretty good. One of my threaded inserts came a little lose and they sent me the tool to tighten it free of charge!
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:05 PM   #5407
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It is flimsy as hell when there is any typical amount of weight on it. I have a skid bar, and even with 500's, the relatively light "standard"....it was distractingly flimsy. It is a show piece flat out. I would no trust it to protect as any skid piece should, for more than keeping a section of bumper protected from being hit by tall grass.


I am just glad I got it for free.
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Old 12-13-2011, 07:32 PM   #5408
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Cant comment on the flimsiness, as I did not use the normal mounts.. but the customer service at Rally Innovations is pretty good. One of my threaded inserts came a little lose and they sent me the tool to tighten it free of charge!
The bar isnt bad unless the car that its installed on isn't driven at all.
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Old 12-14-2011, 10:19 AM   #5409
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@zmi - I know you've got a busy week but this thread needs lights - have you gotten your HELLAs mounted yet?



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Old 12-15-2011, 10:43 AM   #5410
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aaagh my hella 500ff's are driving me crazy... can anyone help me out.. i have been searching and searching and i read the manual posted above but i cant figure out how to wire them up so they only come on with the high beams. They are rigged up now where they come on with a switch if the car is on or off. all i need to know is where do i tap into the high beams to make them come on with the high beams. anyone?
I too struggled with this for a bit. I talked to a few shops and an auto electrician, all of which bs'd me cuz they didn't know how to wire them either. SOOOOO, I went ahead and tapped directly into my drivers side hi-beam lead. Works brilliantly! The first time I took her out for a testdrive to check angle etc, some jackass was approaching me with his hi-beams on so I decided to share the love. I could see the guys gold front tooth light up from about a 1/4 mile away!!
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Old 12-15-2011, 11:40 AM   #5411
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aaagh my hella 500ff's are driving me crazy... can anyone help me out.. i have been searching and searching and i read the manual posted above but i cant figure out how to wire them up so they only come on with the high beams. They are rigged up now where they come on with a switch if the car is on or off. all i need to know is where do i tap into the high beams to make them come on with the high beams. anyone?
This isn't complete (yet), but maybe it will help:
https://picasaweb.google.com/1016151...HELLA500Wiring
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Old 12-15-2011, 03:28 PM   #5412
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@zmi - I know you've got a busy week but this thread needs lights - have you gotten your HELLAs mounted yet?



yep, I will post up some pics tonight.
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Old 12-15-2011, 03:49 PM   #5413
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yep, I will post up some pics tonight.
sweet - sorry ta bug you but thanks - can't wait!!
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Old 12-15-2011, 05:55 PM   #5414
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I just got my Hella 1000ffs mounted and wired to the new Atomic fab. light bar. Adam made up some brackets for the 1000s. These brackets are far superior to the weak plastic and metal brackets that Hella offered. We took some time to verify fit and finish, it was like it belongs there. The skid plate is a blessing when cutting through water ways when I am helping my father-in-law farm. I actually feel like there may be some added stiffness to the frame, although it is hard to say. Absolutely no shake at all, between the bar and the beefed up brackets the lights have nowhere to go; I will get some bracket pics up soon.
I am 100% happy with this combo. The lights are like daylight. I can stand on the bar and jump. Note: this is a prototype, slightly varying from the production model. Skemcin pointed me in the right direction, Thanks man.

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Old 12-15-2011, 07:03 PM   #5415
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I just got my Hella 1000ffs mounted and wired to the new Atomic fab. light bar. Adam made up some brackets for the 1000s. These brackets are far superior to the weak plastic and metal brackets that Hella offered. We took some time to verify fit and finish, it was like it belongs there. The skid plate is a blessing when cutting through water ways when I am helping my father-in-law farm. I actually feel like there may be some added stiffness to the frame, although it is hard to say. Absolutely no shake at all, between the bar and the beefed up brackets the lights have nowhere to go; I will get some bracket pics up soon.
I am 100% happy with this combo. The lights are like daylight. I can stand on the bar and jump. Note: this is a prototype, slightly varying from the production model. Skemcin pointed me in the right direction, Thanks man.

ZMI- I can't thank you enough for posting these. It's awesome that the HELLA 1000 fit on the lower loop of a short bar too - they look absolutely perfect. Thank you for the post and the pics - I know you've been busy so thank you for taking the time to snap the pics. We'll have to get together after the holidays!!
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:44 PM   #5416
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...new here saw this thread thought I would contribute what I built. It's a 2 piece light bar, quick removal virtually no mods to the car required. I built a subframe that hides behind the bumper with some tubing couplers that mate to the light bar itself. The subframe mounts right under the bumper beam using exising facory holes and bolts, no drilling. None of that shake and flex here, I can lift the car up and down when grabbing the bar. I kinda went overboard on lights, I have 3k HIDs on bottom and 6k on top as of now.

Light bar in it's natural habitat



Lightbar removed, subframe hiding behind the bumper almost un-detectable...


picture of the subframe mounted to the bumper beam (before I powdercoated obviously)


picture of the lightbar all naked like
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Old 12-15-2011, 11:56 PM   #5417
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I don't think I posted (might have but I didn't see it in the posts since the end of Sept.), and not sure why I grabbed a 10" bar last October. By far my best investment.

edit...just found it. WHOOPS!!! well, giving some LED love still

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Old 12-16-2011, 08:53 AM   #5418
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what is the best deal for these LED bars right now?
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:34 AM   #5419
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02boxer is that a rigid industries led bar. if so can you post some night shots, i've been debating between the rigid led bar or a set of lightforce 170 HID, but i've never been able to get good night shots of the rigid bar.
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Old 12-16-2011, 10:56 AM   #5420
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^^that looks like the rigid SR series or the Baja design Stealth XPG.

I've been researching this as well, trying to figure out which is better. LED vs HID & which brands.

Apparantly a 10" section of LED is comparable to one 6" HID (although keep reading).

So far, everything I've read has indicated that LED's are more reliable than HID's. HID's have more circuitry and are because of that, more likely to fail. But HID's can project light further down the road (ie. a pencil beam HID will ALWAYS outperform an LED (with current tech.). With that being said, LED's are better at filling in the first 100m-300m (depends on model), because there is more bulbs. Apparantly because of that, it is easier to determine depth of ruts/holes/etc. Using Halogens or HIDs always produce a "hot spot" and depths are harder to define.

I'm leaning towards the BD stealth LED as it has a high/low/strobe switch (we run zero car in most Rallywest events so strobe would be handy) & it's a bit cheaper. Although I like the fact that on the other rigid led's (stacked two row) you can get changeable lens covers for snow/fog.

As a basic summary, Most reviews/tests I've seen have basically said that unless you're top 5 in baja/rally/racing (averaging 120-150km/hr) you will be happy with only an LED bar. Once speeds get up, you need either an HID or Halogen to project the light farther.
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:23 AM   #5421
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thanks for the info. I run sweep and I can see the strobe beign used quite a bit. although the price is still pretty steep.
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:42 AM   #5422
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Steep. Yes.

But LED are comparable to HID's pricewise. I'm not sure about lightforce prices, but PIAA, Hella & Soltek HID's are all comparable to the BD & rigid bars.

It pays to search around, I've found the 20" BD bar for $100 less on UTV sites ($472).
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:15 PM   #5423
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^^^
thanks for the info, that actually explained alot. It makes me wonder though if this would be the best of both worlds, the advantages of LED with the extreme distance of a spot.
http://www.myhellalights.com/index.php?cID=188
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:53 PM   #5424
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My guess is that it would be similar to an HID.
(probably still have hotspots, not as good definition as a bar), but yes probably better distance.

Although that is strictly a guess. I'm pretty sure those are way more expensive.
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This is the chart for them:



and the price is $669 each from www.rallylights.com
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