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Old 11-30-2004, 11:39 PM   #1
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Default Luke and everyone else: need opinions on Forester tires for old people

I'm looking at buying tires for my in-law's 2001 Forester S, stock size 215/60-16. The tires need to be quite, comfortable and capable in the snow. My in-laws are old...so speed and twistie performance isn't really necessary.

The best sellers for this car and tire size, according to Tires Rack are:

Yokohama Avid H4S
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Kumho ECSTA HP4 716
Yokohama Avid Touring

The Bridgestone Potenza G009 sound great, but they are directional...so those are out of the question.

For the $$$ it seems that the Avid H4S is the tire to get, but it may be overkill for them. I'm open to opinion and other options.

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Old 12-01-2004, 07:02 AM   #2
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where do they live? you mention snow capability, but if they are getting more than an inch or two at a time, you should be looking for snow tires, along with what you listed for good all-seasons.
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Old 12-01-2004, 07:34 AM   #3
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They live in CT and I'm looking for 4 season tires for them. Snow tires aren't really an option. My in-laws are in their late 70s and won't be out and about if there is a ton of snow on the ground.
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Old 12-01-2004, 07:48 AM   #4
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....so why are directional tires 'out of the question'....discarding a tire, off hand, due to this is ridiculous.

Also, a high(er) performance tire may save the day when older reflexes come into play and provide that extra bit of handling needed to keep a potential disaster form happening.....

Think about it.....for a minute. Better tires MAY be better, NO?

Toyo Proxes4's or PZero Nero M&S, and done.
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Old 12-01-2004, 09:28 AM   #5
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I'm discarding the Bridgestone Potenza G009's because for ease and convenience reasons. My in-laws are not car enthusiasts nor do they necessarily understand the basic concept of directional tires and how to rotate them or not rotate them. I just tried to explain tire wear and why they shouldn't drive with 1 old tire and one spare tire and received a blank stare back. I also want to make it easier on them in case one they blow out a tire. Believe me, if it were my car, I'd be putting either the Proxes4 or PZero Nero M&S's on the car (btw: I have Pzero Neros on my car). I think high performance tires are overkill for them but I'm unfamiliar with any other grade of tire.
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Old 12-01-2004, 09:44 AM   #6
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I've had good results with the avid T4 on 2 CRVs, and minimal experience with with the H4s on a civic. I think they're great tires for the money. Those are the tires I recommend to people who want an affordable tire that's better than a typical OEM tire, but aren't looking for ultimate performance.

aren't the H4s directional also?

H4s

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Old 12-01-2004, 09:50 AM   #7
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aren't the H4s directional also?
I don't know? I haven't read that they are but they could be. Hopefully Luke will chime in soon. He know everything.

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Old 12-01-2004, 10:32 AM   #8
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My in-laws are not car enthusiasts nor do they necessarily understand the basic concept of directional tires and how to rotate them or not rotate them.
Your father-in-law won't be out there rotating the tires, will he?

What about the BFG Traction? Ah, just throw some SP5000's or ContiExtremeContacts on there.

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Old 12-01-2004, 12:21 PM   #9
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I really like the Avid H4S .... they are a good all around tire with great ride quality and tread wear
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Old 12-01-2004, 01:12 PM   #10
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Thanks Luke. Are the H4S's directionals?

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Old 12-01-2004, 01:47 PM   #11
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they are, check out tirerack's description page. the H4 isn't directional, if you can find that in your size. and the T4 isn't either.

it's not that big of a deal, since most people rotate tires front to back anyway. if he has the dealer do the maintenance, or the like, they'll rotate them that way.
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Avid H4S is directional
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Old 12-02-2004, 01:04 AM   #13
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My brother just put the H4S tires on his Protege5 to replace is near bald SP 5000 M's(one year from new). I've ridden in his car a few times and drove it a little bit as well, not really pushing it, although he has on occation to test them a bit. He likes them a lot. Good traction with virtually no loss in rain(-5% maybe, AA traction rating too). The compound is soft and provides a quiet ride. Even squeeling is almost unhearable. The sideways feel solid with almost no flex when being pushed. About all you feel is the tread flex at first then solid and very predictable. The sideways stiffness doesn't add to harshness though, better than the SP 5000 M's. I can't say too much about snow yet. The snow has just started to fall here in southern Minnesota. I think there's better tires for snow traction, ContiExtremeContact, and better tires for grip, PZero Nero, but the H4S offers a very good mix. Quiet, long wearing, decent performance dry and wet, agressive enough tread to handle some snow.

I personally have a fetish for Firestone's Indy 500's, but I think the 16" starts at 235 wide on up, so that's probably out of the question, lol.
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Old 12-02-2004, 08:44 AM   #14
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I personally have a fetish for Firestone's Indy 500's, but I think the 16" starts at 235 wide on up, so that's probably out of the question, lol.
Thanks for the write up.

hmmm...235s? Maybe I should buy them some phat bling DUBs too.
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Old 12-02-2004, 09:02 AM   #15
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Luke: What are your thoughts on the BFG Tractions? How do they compare to the H4S' and the G009s? And are they directional?

Thanks

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Luke: What are your thoughts on the BFG Tractions? How do they compare to the H4S' and the G009s? And are they directional?

Thanks

Traction T/A's are noisier by a pretty good margin

G009's are not as good in bad weather
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Old 12-02-2004, 10:15 AM   #17
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I recently put H4S's on my wife's Honda Accord. They are very quiet and ride very comfortably.
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Old 12-02-2004, 06:21 PM   #18
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i have run teh avid H4's. pretty good. though i would still considerteh PNero's. i'll chekc if my avids were direction when i get home tonight.
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the H4 wasn't. the new H4S is.
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I have 225/60-16 Falken Ziex ZE-512 on my Forester. 215 where out of stock but these are a lot better than my Geos and alot quieter. these are pretty cheap.
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Thanks everyone...I finally ordered a set of the Avid H4S tires. I know they are directional, and I originally said I didn't want to go with directional tires, but they seem to be the best tire for the $$$. Christmas is coming early for my in-laws!
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Old 12-03-2004, 12:54 PM   #22
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Have a look at these Goodyear Assurance TripleTred.

I'm not affliated with Goodyear in anyway and I don't use them, but Tirerack reviewers seem to like them.
These are directional
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these are not directional

Although if they as good as they appear I may be switching this summer.

hmm It appears I'm a day late.
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Oops. Just a quite add-on. Indy 500 comes in a 205/55/R16 to start...THEN a jump up to 235 and ...w i d e r... up to 265 lol.

Fun tires, ultra quiet, grippy on everything(you won't believe), low wear and pretty flat even when driven hard regularly(daily), very soft ride at 35psi but spongy feeling. It got a bit more solid going up near its 44psi max. I was using 215/70/R14's though, a bit tall. I'm not sure what I'll put on my '02 Forester yet, stock 205/70/R15. I want to go a little lower ratio, maybe get those 16" black $35 steelies that were posted...with white "Firehawk" "Indy 500" lettering spinning around the outside, mmm
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