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Old 12-04-2004, 11:19 AM   #1
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Default RAAMmat60 BXT Intro Sale, lowest price anywhere

I have decided to become a site sponsor even though I still do not have a subbie yet, I love this place, and have an intro sale for my new mat.
__________________________________________________ ____________

I just brought out a new and improved version of RAAMmat60. Now it is butyl based like the other super high end mats, still aluminum backed of course, stickier than ever, garanteed 300 degree temperature range and of course very cost effective.

15" by 50', 62.5 sq ft roll, 60 mils thick, a bit lighter due to the butyl base so saves a bit of weight yet still performs even better than the last version.

$129 retail per roll.

$99 sale on Ebay right now.

*****Limited time sale for NASIOC members is $89 per roll.*****

There is nothing else on the market in this price/performance ratio

I also sell Ensolite MLC for the lowest price on the net, $9.95 per running yard, 56" wide, 2 yards minimum as well as a great spray can adhesive to install it, better than all regular brands, $8.95 per can.
I am currently out of stock on Ensolite but have another batch being cut and shipped, should be here the first of the week.

Any questions just ask, best to use email, raam@raamaudio.com.

Need a quote with UPS ground shipping? Just send your zip code and I will send one back as soon as possible and ordering instructions.

Thanks, have a great weekend!
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Old 12-05-2004, 06:13 AM   #2
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email sent
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Old 12-05-2004, 08:38 AM   #3
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Quote to 19128 please. Thanks.
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Old 12-05-2004, 01:20 PM   #4
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All members that just purchased the new mat at $99 are eligible for a $10 refund

Steve, email just sent.

Sayanora, UPS ground shipping is $19.05 to your location and the total is $108.05. I accept Paypal as long as the account is verified and the shipping addresss is confirmed, my ID is raam@raamaudio.com. Money orders are fine as well, the address is below.

Thanks, have a great week!
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Old 12-05-2004, 04:10 PM   #5
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Hey,

I purchased the older raammat60 from you and I actually havent had a chance to install it yet. Would I be able to do an exchange for this new stuff?
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Old 12-05-2004, 04:26 PM   #6
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soooo how much would i need to do the entire car? Floor, trunk, doors,....?
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Old 12-06-2004, 01:10 AM   #7
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elhalisf,
There are a few things that make that not a great option for us, accepting an exchange that is. Then there is shipping both ways. I sold out all the old mat at a discounted price and if I only gave you that plus you paid for shipping I am afraid you would not come out very well. Then again if I covered the costs, etc, I would not either.

Here is what one customer did and it worked out the best for both of us. He sold the version he had and bought a new roll, ended up only costing him a $20 difference.




I want to help you out someway though, please email me as I am not here nearly as often as I am doing emails, I get a ton of them every day and sometimes so swamped it is hard to get back here for awhile.


lienregnif,
Two rolls minimum to do the whole car the way I recommend. It does depend on what your goals are, maybe you can acheive them with less, please send me more info, preferable email and I will help you figure out just what is the best approach and how to get the results you are after.

Thanks,
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Old 12-06-2004, 01:45 AM   #8
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an official welcome to you Rick! thanks for a great product. I'd buy more of your stuff, but I have yet to finish installing the stuff I bought from you last christmas.
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Old 12-06-2004, 01:59 AM   #9
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How much Ensolite will I need with roll of Raamat?? Also how much shipped to 94112 (the roll and Ensolite as well as a spray adhesive.
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Old 12-06-2004, 01:59 AM   #10
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Thanks At least there is no shelf life for the mat so you can install it whenever you wish

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Old 12-06-2004, 02:32 AM   #11
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bringn,
My general recommendation is 3 yards of ensolite for one roll of mat and one can of adhesive. , 4-5 yards if getting two rolls of mat and two cans.

There can be variations, say you are trying to get the maximum benifit but the least amount of weight gain because you autocross the car, etc. Or, you have a competition audio system, bass monster, etc, etc.

The regularly recommended amount of one roll, three yards and one can of adhesive shipping via UPS ground is $9.97 since you are pretty close to me, I charge my actual cost at all times. The total would be $137.77.

I am waiting for my restocking order of Ensolite to arrive, supposed to be here any day now, it was back ordered due to inventory error at the manf.

Thanks, have a great week!
Rick

P.S. I forget to change my login at times, not used to being a sponsor on the site, I am RAAMaudio and RAAMmat as per site rules have to use a different login for business.
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Old 12-07-2004, 03:56 AM   #12
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ok so, what and how much would i need to do my whole 04 wagon(floor, doors, and roof) shipped to 92123?
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Old 12-07-2004, 02:32 PM   #13
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Generally I do not recommend doing roofs as the gain is not as much as the rest of the install compared to cost and effort. But, I do them on competition installs and it does pay off for them as well as would be an improvement in your car.

That said, there is alot of area up there to cover depending on the car some more than others. If you follow my install guide below you will probably need more than two rolls, closer to 3 rolls of mat and I would use the ensolite everywhere as well, 6 yards should do it. If you have access to a very good quality contact cement in a commercial size container and a spray gun for it that is the best for installing the foam, if not I sell the best spray can glue I have ever found and I have tested them all.

Here is my maximum recommendation for an all out install:

3 rolls of RAAMmat60 BXT $89.00 each 267.00
6 yards of Ensolite foam at $9.95 each 59.70
3 cans of adhesive at $8.95 each 26.85
UPS ground shipping at my actual cost 28.78
Total, CA sales tax not included $391.33


If you want to cut back a bit and I garantee still get a tremendous improvement then this will do it and would be my normal recommendation.

2 rolls of BXT 178.00
4 yards of ensolite 39.80 (one more yard is not a bad idea though)
2 cans of glue 17.90
UPS ground 17.11
Total w/o tax $252.81

Let me know if you need any more info, another quote, etc, best to use email though, raam@raamaudio.com.

Here is what I recommend, this is from years of experience and alot of customer feedback, it works very well.

-Front doors, doors with speakers, remove door panel and plastic moisture barier, toss it in the trash.
-One layer of mat on most of the outer door skin, overlap the seems, add two more smaller layers, about 12" sq, behind the speakers. Then the same size piece of close cell foam on top of those layers(ensulite foam is best.
-Check for loose wires, cables, etc, inside the door, secure with foam tape, tie wraps, etc. build up the speaker mounting location by making a solid baffel that you can screw to the door then the speakers to it, MDF works great and easy to work with.
-Seal up the door access holes with a piece of tin, I use perforated aluminum, this gives the next layer of mat something to stick to and tightens up the midbass response.
-Install one layer of mat over the inner door metal, seal all air passages possible, cut the mat back around 1" from edge of door panel.
-Add a layer of 1/8" close cell foam, ensulite again is best but hard to find, to the top of the mat, cut around all mounting points, same for the mat, to make sure the door panel will fit back on ok, cut back around 1/2" from edge of panel.
-Tap on the back of the door panel, being plastic it will have resonate areas. Add patches of mat to those areas until it sounds deadened, usually about 1/4 to 1/3 of the surface is enough, install the panel and test the the door, slam it a few times and listen for rattles, etc.

Rear doors, as the front, if they have speakers in them.
Doors without speakers, just mat the inner door metal, covering the access holes, like above no need to mat the outer door skin.
Rear side panels, outer metal skin, foam, varies from vehicle to vehicle, try to seal up the best you can like the doors.
Rear hatch, same as above.

Floor, One layer everywhere, tap on the floor and add a second and sometims a third layer to the resonate areas only, any more is a waste of mat and effort, once and area is deadened, there is nothing more to gain with adding more mat.
-Some tend to over use the mat in some areas and not enough in others.
-Add a layer of 1/4" close cell foam or two layers of 1/8" then the factory carpet, done!

Notes:

Doors, I usually add a 1" sq steel thin wall tube behind the speaker baffle, mounted diagonally, I use self taping screws to drill through the factory inner door metal and into the tubing. This really stiffens up the speaker mounting area and improves midbass response.

If you want to go all out on the floor, you can add do a layering effect over the really resonate areas of the floor. One layer of mat, a layer of foam, another layer of mat then another layer of foam, only use 1/8" foam so the floor does not get to high for the carpets to fit back in. This method will absorb even more accoustical energy but mainly used for all out comp car installs.

Roof, not usually needed, least results, alot of effort, once the rest is done, test and decide what to do. On a black or very dark vehicle, a tremendous amount of heat build up can occur on the roof, one layer is the maximum I would use the cover it then add a solid layer of close cell foam.

If you have an exceptionally loud exhaust and or tires, they are the worst offenders as they permeate the air around the vehicle and penetrate from many areas. Sometimes they have to be changed no matter how well matted, just want you to be aware of this issue.
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Old 12-08-2004, 01:50 AM   #14
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wow! thanks for all the info!
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Old 12-08-2004, 02:44 AM   #15
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You are most welcome, it is an honor to help my fellow enthusiasts reach their goals and save money while doing so (use the savings to buy more toys)

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Old 12-08-2004, 07:09 AM   #16
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i had the old version of the raammat installed in my wagon and it worked great! the new one must be pretty sweet.
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Old 12-09-2004, 09:11 PM   #17
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I have thousands of happy customers with the older versions, now finally have what I worked on for the last two years to bring out, suddenly it was here, months before I thought it possible, why it was not offically rumor mill started long ago, lol!

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Old 12-13-2004, 12:17 PM   #18
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I just want to do my trunk for now, what do you recommend I need?......then price please...12124
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Old 12-13-2004, 04:29 PM   #19
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I did the roof in my WRX, wasn't that hard. What I did was to drop the headliner down, then work around it. I cut strips that fit between the bars that go across the roof, did 2 layers, maybe 3 (did this a while ago).

I noticed a decrease in wind noise, but where it REALLY shines is in the rain...it used to sound like a tin can in heavy rain, (so much so that I couldn't talk on my cell phone over the noise one time). Now the tin can noise is gone...

I actually think doing the headliner is easier than the floorpan, but i'm sure the floorpan would be more beneficial to road noise....

I also recomend following the directions and really cleaning the surface you are applying the mat to. I was too eager with my install and forgot this step, after a year and a hot summer in Cali I can see the mat not sticking to some vertical areas (rear quarter panel, trunk)...i'm POSITIVE had I prepped the surface properly and used a tiny roller I would have had no problems.

btw, great product. I used the Rammatt60.
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Old 12-25-2004, 11:47 PM   #20
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how does this compare to B-Quiet Extreme which is $99 for 100sq ft on ebay...??
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Old 12-29-2004, 04:58 PM   #21
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what would your recommend for a minimum install? say, for someone that autoXs and tracks.

thanks,
wYlie
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Old 12-29-2004, 10:24 PM   #22
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you don't have to prep it that carefully.. as long as you heat up the mat, the butyl will stick to anything... ANYTHING.

and there's really no such thing as a minimal install... you can mat the key areas like door panels, wheel wells, floor boards... but the more you use, the more effective it becomes. if you're concerned about the track... I don't htink it'll affect it that much since all the weight is near the bottom.
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Old 12-29-2004, 10:44 PM   #23
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Rick would you recommend installing a layer of this on top of the previous version of the product? Do you think it would do much good, or does it really need to be the first layer stuck to the metal in the car?
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Old 01-01-2005, 01:50 AM   #24
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Sorry guys, just swamped since I returned from a vacation where my laptop died, finally catching back up!

Azanatama, Thicker, better(according to many customers that have used both), actually more effective for the cost as the thinner mat requires double layers to be very effective, this is from having a thinner version years ago, why I no longer sell one

Roamin, There is actually a way to do a minimal install with great results, like all things the law of deminishing returns kicks in eventually. The doors are the most important for reducing road noise and improving midbass performance and SQ.

-One roll of mat, 2 yards of ensolite, 1 can of addhesive:
1) Cover about 1/2 the outer door skin on the front doors with mat(keep it towards the front lower part of the door) Then one layer about 12" sq behind where the speakers go. Next a patch of ensolite over the second layer, about the same size.
2) Use some thin tin(galvanized or aluminum) to cover the door access holes. Mat the inner door skin with one layer but can just do the whole covers and areas closer to the speaker and any others that are resonate(thump them and listen, easy to tell)
3) Cover the whole area with a layer of ensolite.
4) Tap on the door panels and mat just a few patches that are more resonate.
5) Do the rear doors as the front unless no speakers, then just do the patches and inner door covering and skip the mat on the door panels, not needed.
6) Cover the wheel wells, seal up(depending on car model) areas behind the rear seat, remove the rear deck cover, seal that up with some mat and ensolite.
7) Use what is left on the floor, thump and mat the worst areas.
8) Two more yards of ensolite will cover the floor as well, would do this to my own car, adds very little weight.

The whole job will add less than 30 lbs to the car and I have done a full car including roof and raced it In fact if you want to really go all out like I did, use aluminum channels bonded to all the flimsy areas like the roof, inside the doors, etc, etc, aluminum honeycomb floors, minimal mat and alot of ensolite. This takes alot of work but my turbo Matrix was one of the fastest SM autoxers in So CA with a full install done like this, against subbies and M3's, really

The new mat can go over the old just fine, I only use two layers where really needed, the resonate ones, again, thump and fix!!

Have a great new year!
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I just e-mailed you with some questions.

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