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Old 07-02-2001, 06:11 PM   #1
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This story makes me angry because of people like this. I have a friend who lives in Quincy, which is in northern California. He has a friend who's younger brother has a friend who just aquired a WRX (his parents bought it for him). Judging on this, I'm sure the younger brother's friend who got it was either graduating high school or just got his license. Anyhow...he took it out the day after he got it and went on some dirt roads (which there are a lot in Quincy) and flipped it. Completely rolled it over and it landed on it's top. Eventhough it has AWD it's not invincible, I just wished that the kid would have been smarter with the car, now it's a waist. I bet he saw the comercial and said "Mom, I want that!" It's so sad...I would have traded him my 2.5RS and let him flip that and kept his WRX

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Old 07-02-2001, 06:21 PM   #2
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awd is NOT invincible. my friend flipped his legacy and almost died.
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Old 07-02-2001, 06:23 PM   #3
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AWD doesn't really help much in preventing rollovers. My friend once rolled a Legacy (although he was fine).
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Old 07-02-2001, 06:28 PM   #4
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Amazing how people get bitten by the Superman bug. There goes the insurance rates for the WRX.
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Old 07-02-2001, 06:33 PM   #5
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does AWD flip over easier than FWD or RWD?
rank the order...someone?
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Old 07-02-2001, 06:46 PM   #6
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i don't think you can't really rank who flips over more. it's all depending on the envirnment. (correct me if i am worng) but all these new seden and coupes will NOT flip when it's on a perfect flat level gound. Not counting these big tall suvs, vans, trucks. But when it come to an envirnment which the driver has no control in, some time you just don't know... AWD has nothing to do with holding the four wheels on the ground. When two of the wheels come off the ground, AWD can't do anything to bring them back down.
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Old 07-02-2001, 07:51 PM   #7
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but all these new seden and coupes will NOT flip when it's on a perfect flat level gound
i'm quite so sure bout this. i think on level tarmac, a car can flip in a sustained drift if the outer wheels grip a hella lot more then the inner wheels (ie negative camber?). to me, that will cause a flip so i dink its possible.
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Old 07-02-2001, 07:57 PM   #8
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sorry but,
AH HA!!
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(btw, i'm bitter about people who have parents who buy them $25k cars, maybe they will learn their lesson and buy jr. a pos to beat on first.)
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Old 07-02-2001, 07:59 PM   #9
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Insurance rates are not going to be good. It sounds like 100% of WRX owners get into accidents of some sort....
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Old 07-02-2001, 08:06 PM   #10
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100% ? dude where did u get that from?
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Old 07-02-2001, 08:09 PM   #11
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I totally agree with you Keith. I am against parents who buy their sons or daughters brand new, NICE cars that cost a lot. I bought my car with by myself, and my parents paid for 25% of it as my graduation gift...but the car is mine!!! I am completely satisfied with my 2.5RS, I love it. I have learned so much from it and I haven't been involved in any accidents ("real" or serious ones anyways). I think that people who buy their own car appreciate it a million times more than if it is given to you.

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Old 07-02-2001, 08:17 PM   #12
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Damn right
I have bought all my cars (well, my father gave me a 86 chevy nova..complete with bondo on the side ) after getting that thing running with little help ($), it got smashed by some stupid idiot. I was pissed, I put alot of money (well at that time it was alot of money ) into that car and some chick slamed it.
So then i bought my 87 integra...I could have sworn that car was a 911 or something I used to wash that thing all the time, wax it, and do everything I could to have it looking nice (it was nice for an 87).
From there I bought my RS and WRX and I tell you, I treat these cars better than I treat myslef
I won't eat, but my car will have synthetic oil and good tires
I think parents should HELP their kids with getting a car, but not give it to JR so he/she doesn't appriciate it.
Thats just not right.
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BTW, I got a cake for my graduation...and I was happy to get it Would have been nicer if it had pudding instead of pineapple
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Old 07-02-2001, 08:27 PM   #13
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Keith,
I am the complete same way. I was given my first car; a 1984 Dotson Nissan Maxima. I thought that thing rocked! I felt the power when I kept it in 1st and then shifted (it was an automatic mind you) to 2nd and 3rd and Drive...I hardly hit the overdrive button...but it still kicked ass. I was given that car from my grandma who stopped driving. The paint was $hit on it and I got a paint job for it. I washed the damn thing every weekend and waxed it once a month about. I'm sure the neighboors thought I was crazy..and probably still do 'cause I do the same with my 2.5RS. I appreciated my Maxima so much, 'till the radio broke...and the center console broke...and other things started to go wrong. If only people could be more like you and me Keith-

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Old 07-02-2001, 08:35 PM   #14
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I dont think ppl want to be like me, I'm short, I'm balding, and I'm a post whore BUt I do have 2 nice cars
ehehhee
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yo, u should get that car back, and I'll race u with my totaled nova
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Old 07-02-2001, 08:52 PM   #15
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Keith and SoCalScooby:
I totally agree with both of you that if a young person gets a car, then they should take really good care of it and be grateful and responsible. I received from my grandmother 2 months after I got my license, a 1990 Honda Accord DX. I waxed that thing so much it was unbelievable even in the cold of the winter. Hey, all I wanted was a car with 4 wheels that was enclosed with heat and went "vrooom" when you turned the key but I got more. Since I had some money saved up myself, I bought some better tires, a stereo system and wiper blades etc. Then, in a winter storm in Jan/Feb I had to go to her house, that was kinda the deal that I take her where she needs to go. I still do this in my RS. The car being awesome in the snow only as front wheel drive can be got stuck going up a big hill, so I tried to climb a smaller hill. The roads were covered with at least 4-6 inches of snow and the car was going nowhere. I had to get to her house as it was a vital appointment she had to keep for her heart. So... I made it up the hill, the speedo reading 85mph and I was going maybe 4mph (it's an automatic, so it did some stupid things.) I finally made it to her house. I took her to her appointment, and then I took her to my house the Waterbury roads were just too bad (worse than before). A few weeks passed and then my transmission would slip out of gear every now and then so... I brought it to the Honda dealer and they said, "Oh, just change the fluid and the filter and it will be fine." I said go ahead, it was like $100.00 so I figured what the heck try it. The day I got it back, I went to a highschool dance and I got stranded at the school. The tranny was completely gone! I ended up getting it rebuilt and selling it. My grandmother was the 2nd owner of the Honda and we have changed the oil more than what is recommended. We have had all maintenance done and it only had like 70,000 miles on it when the tranny died. My grandmother felt sorry, and said that she would buy me a car that stickered for under $20,000.00 just so long as the insurance wasn't insanely high. (I am not a bad kid by any means, I have like a 97 average and as a Junior I was in all Senior classes) I was very excited and knew exactly what I wanted. Soon, on Feb 27th, I took delivery on my brand new 2001 2.5RS Sedan 5 spd. It was truly like a dream come true. Since then I have waxed the car over 5 times meticuously each time taking me over 4 hours and it gets a wash basically every week when warm out and every other week when it was cold out. I drive very responsibly and have never gotten into an accident (knock on wood). The only thing which has happened is that at my friend's graduation party, his uncle who is like a deacon or priest or something like that backed into my front bumper while I was inside his house. Oh well, there is a 1/4" tall strip about 8" long of silver paint missing but it didn't even scratch the plastic underneath. I have been selling (trying hard to sell) computers this summer and install stereo systems in local cars. I have been not too successful other than being able to order a GanzFlow, putting gas in the car and getting the scratch fixed. Prior to my getting these small jobs, I used to not eat lunch at school and just save my lunch money to buy stuff for my car. The first thing that I bought from this income was the Mother's Gold Clay bar system. Oh well the things we do for are Subies yet when I look at it, it is IMHO money well spent with the return of ultimate driving satisfaction (read better than spending money on girls as your investment is pretty much guaranteed). Just my take on the situation, I've never done anything remotely stupid driving anything and don't intend to ever. As my mom says, "If you take good care of your car, it will take good care of you."
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Old 07-02-2001, 10:26 PM   #16
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I dont mind people being stupid in their WRX's thats just going to make it easy to find wrecked rex's so that I can take the motor and tranny and put it in my RS.

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Old 07-02-2001, 10:35 PM   #17
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would that work? can you fit a WRX motor/tranny in a RS?
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Old 07-02-2001, 10:44 PM   #18
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jay25RS,
thats good Its good that u respect the car, now I'll be ur best friend if u just don't rice it up ehehehee
btw, grades don't make a good driver! (why? cuz I'm stupit )
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Old 07-02-2001, 11:04 PM   #19
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In order for AWD to be of benefit, the wheels must be on the ground.
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Old 07-03-2001, 12:56 AM   #20
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oh dear god

the wheels that are powered have nothign to do with rollover.

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this guy was OFFROAD
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Old 07-03-2001, 02:04 AM   #21
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What wrecking yard is this car at?? (plane ticket in hand)
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Old 07-03-2001, 02:10 AM   #22
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Talking rex flies off logging road, eh?

Yeah, sound like there's lots of parts just waiting for somebody's (future) turbo RS...

I've been to Quincy. Beautiful place, though it's not gonna stay that way for long if they keep cutting down (logging country, BTW) all the trees...

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Old 07-03-2001, 03:53 AM   #23
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Ive spent 6 years driving POS cars, but Ive been spending all my time and school and dont have any money for a car!

And my parents are gonna get me a car, probably a new RS too.... BUT I EARNED IT! (and have a degree now to show for it, hmph)
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Old 07-03-2001, 04:00 AM   #24
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omg are some of you stupid

awd helps cournering/being able to go offroading the only thing that prevents a car from flipping is its center of gravity and its width (ie hummers)

if ya take any vehicle and ya turn sharp enough in mud or dirt and the wheels stop then it will flip...same thing with curbs.....of course it would be hard to flip on roads....unless ya hit a curb (which would stop the wheels from sliding)
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Old 07-03-2001, 11:47 AM   #25
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I have found that in alot of cases it is harder to flip a car off road... now I have never flipped one yet...though alot of my friends have. but off road ususaly it is harder to sustain corrnering G's. as long as you dont drop one of the outside tires in a ditch or something they will slide easely because there is let traction. but all it takes is one rock sticking up 1 inch in the middle of a drift or a small rut and you can rool just about anything. I ave been in a CRX that slid almost 25 feet on the outside two tires, off a drop off and into a mud bog. some how that dident flip.
I think it has most to do with the driver and the cars roll center, but sometimes you just dont hook up enough to roll and sometimes you think you are ok thenb you are over the top.
one of my friends was doing donuts in a dry flat feild and out of nowhere he rolled twice?

I guess the moral is just don't take any car that close to the limmit so you don't risk it. and don't be stupid.
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