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Old 12-06-2004, 06:40 PM   #1
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Hi All,

I have heard that Santa may be bringing me a Kartboy shifter & bushings for my Sti. I know they are great for the 5 speeds. To those who own or have driven a Sti with this, what do you think?
Searching for Kartboy in these forums is like typing WRX in the search field.
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Old 12-06-2004, 08:41 PM   #2
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Paypal me 5.00 and i'll let you know if you got one on the way

IF you get one of the shifter combos for X mas you will be a happy camper!

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Old 12-06-2004, 09:11 PM   #3
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I tried one, and I liked it alot on the STI. The short throw was perfect. It seemed like shift were alot easier. I don't know how much they go for but sounds like a good mod.
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Old 12-06-2004, 10:23 PM   #4
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Paypal me 5.00 and i'll let you know if you got one on the way

IF you get one of the shifter combos for X mas you will be a happy camper!

Tom
OK, only if you tell me how well the Etch-a-sketch production is going also

I actually had to supervise the purchase, otherwise I would have been returning the bushings for the correct ones. BTW are you developing a shift knob for this combo?

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Old 12-06-2004, 10:24 PM   #5
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I tried one, and I liked it alot on the STI. The short throw was perfect. It seemed like shift were alot easier. I don't know how much they go for but sounds like a good mod.
I hope it is!
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Old 12-06-2004, 11:13 PM   #6
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OK, only if you tell me how well the Etch-a-sketch production is going also

I actually had to supervise the purchase, otherwise I would have been returning the bushings for the correct ones. BTW are you developing a shift knob for this combo?

Bryan
Etch-a sketch? sorry you lost me on that one.

working on a knob now. i have a few out there in "testing" stages. once i get a little more feedback from the different people i'll have a better idea what i need to change.

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Old 12-07-2004, 08:56 AM   #7
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Etch-a sketch? sorry you lost me on that one.

working on a knob now. i have a few out there in "testing" stages. once i get a little more feedback from the different people i'll have a better idea what i need to change.

Tom
Sounds good about the knob. I'll keep my eyes open for it. If you need to beta test a newer design let me know!

So noboby else has one of these????? Am I the only one who thinks my factory shifter is feeling sloppy after 24k miles?

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Old 12-08-2004, 01:10 AM   #8
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i have a few out there in "testing" stages. once i get a little more feedback from the different people i'll have a better idea what i need to change.
Hello,

The shifter is incredible. I traded up to the KB SS from the factory short shifter that my STi came with. The bushings of course made the biggest difference, but the throw on the KB is awesome.

The only miracle that the KB SS didn't do for me is get rid of the pre-existing 2nd-to-3rd notchiness that my STi-SS exhibited from the factory. It's minor, but I wish that was smoother. Maybe if I swap out tranny fluids, that will resolve.

As for the knob, I way prefer the feel of the KB beta test unit. I hate the way the gear-position plastic doo-hick on the stock shift knob feels - esp. since it moves around. The little KB sticker doesn't move and the shift knob now makes the Reverse grab that much easier to do, too.

The one downside is the temp of the metal shift knob when it's cold out. L.A. had some totally uncharacteristic nights of 34-35 degrees F, and I must say I was startled when I first grabbed the shift-knob. A few minutes of driving later, the knob was normal temp, though.

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Old 12-08-2004, 11:20 AM   #9
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Hello,

The shifter is incredible. I traded up to the KB SS from the factory short shifter that my STi came with. The bushings of course made the biggest difference, but the throw on the KB is awesome.

The only miracle that the KB SS didn't do for me is get rid of the pre-existing 2nd-to-3rd notchiness that my STi-SS exhibited from the factory. It's minor, but I wish that was smoother. Maybe if I swap out tranny fluids, that will resolve.

As for the knob, I way prefer the feel of the KB beta test unit. I hate the way the gear-position plastic doo-hick on the stock shift knob feels - esp. since it moves around. The little KB sticker doesn't move and the shift knob now makes the Reverse grab that much easier to do, too.

The one downside is the temp of the metal shift knob when it's cold out. L.A. had some totally uncharacteristic nights of 34-35 degrees F, and I must say I was startled when I first grabbed the shift-knob. A few minutes of driving later, the knob was normal temp, though.

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Awesome, I can't wait. I've driven a friends '05 Sti with the factory short shifter. I liked it, but not for over $300 to upgrade my standard shifter. The knob sounds great too, it's metal! I like that. However, it can get much colder than 34 in NE PA in the winter! Thanks for the write up,

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Old 12-08-2004, 01:37 PM   #10
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I liked it, but not for over $300 to upgrade my standard shifter.
Hello,

Heh, anyone want a factory SS lever and shift knob? Doesn't come with the linkage since the KB SS uses whatever linkage you have already in the car...



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Old 12-08-2004, 03:45 PM   #11
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Awesome, I can't wait. I've driven a friends '05 Sti with the factory short shifter. I liked it, but not for over $300 to upgrade my standard shifter. The knob sounds great too, it's metal! I like that. However, it can get much colder than 34 in NE PA in the winter! Thanks for the write up,

Bryan
ASAIK the factory short shift that comes with the STi is different from the actual STi short shift that you buy for 300 bucks from SPT... the difference you may be feeling is due to the fact that its a newer car...
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Old 12-08-2004, 04:27 PM   #12
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ASAIK the factory short shift that comes with the STi is different from the actual STi short shift that you buy for 300 bucks from SPT... the difference you may be feeling is due to the fact that its a newer car...

I have an '04 with the standard shifter, not a short throw. For me it is still $300+ dollars to upgrade using Subaru parts,

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Old 01-01-2005, 09:10 PM   #13
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Happy new year! It is for me, since I installed this shifter with bushings yesterday. Just read Joel Gat's post above!

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Old 01-02-2005, 12:38 AM   #14
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i have a short throw going in tommmrow, but not a new bushing couldnt afford it, will my shifting still be smooth?
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Old 01-02-2005, 09:27 AM   #15
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It'll feel sloppy compared to it with the bushings.
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Old 01-02-2005, 01:10 PM   #16
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The only miracle that the KB SS didn't do for me is get rid of the pre-existing 2nd-to-3rd notchiness that my STi-SS exhibited from the factory. It's minor, but I wish that was smoother. Maybe if I swap out tranny fluids, that will resolve.

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You may want to look here and see if this is the solution to your problems. Incredible difference IMO from just a simple swap of bushings (different bushings than the ones from KB). Now that I am done testing the TiC bushings, time to put in my KB SS and the other KB bushings to go along with them

http://www.sti-buki.com/forums/showt...=&threadid=407

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Old 01-02-2005, 10:23 PM   #17
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that sounds pretty good offset!

Since my jdm 6spd just came in, it'll be a breeze to do the TiC bushings, kartboy SS, and kartboy bushings all while the tranny is out of the car!
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