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Old 08-10-2005, 08:52 PM   #26
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Old 09-03-2005, 09:55 PM   #27
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Old 09-04-2005, 01:49 AM   #28
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"How ELSE can I decrease stopping distance?"

The only way to significantly decrease your stopping distance is to put stickier tires on the car or drastically increase downforce. Period. Anyone that tells you otherwise is is lying to you or doesn't know what they are talking about.

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O.K. I'll take a shot. How about weight reduction? I seem to recall another notable mentioning that weight reduction, especially in the front, can significantly help braking.

If so, some BBKs are much lighter than stock. If you could drop 40lbs from your brakes (I know, that's a lot but there are such claims of 10lbs/corner out there), you may dramatically impact your braking ability and attribute it to your new BBK and rightly so but for the wrong reason.

Just a thought. Anyone have any experience with this?
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Old 09-05-2005, 04:36 AM   #29
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Old 09-05-2005, 04:12 PM   #30
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Old 09-05-2005, 04:39 PM   #31
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How about weight reduction?
Dropping a significant amount of weight would make a difference, but 40 lbs isn't that significant compared to the overall weight of car, gas, and driver. Loosing 40 lbs of unsprung weight would be great for suspension control, but wouldn't make much difference in braking. Now 240 lbs would be a difference you'd feel.
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yeah, you tell 'em mark! you should know, especially with that 200#'s of equipment you schlep everyday.
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Old 09-05-2005, 06:34 PM   #35
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Obviously, more weight loss is better but how much to be noticable is probably pretty subjective. On a vaguely related note, I just dropped 20lbs off my stock wheel/tire combo and feel a very noticable difference so I thought the same might be said of a BBK.

The more I think (and read) about it, the more it seems that the lion's share of the weight loss (going from stock) is on the rotors. Is that correct?

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So continuing the train of thought. If the weight savings comes from the rotors and a BBK doesn't buy much (if anything) for the street, a good upgrade to stock brakes might be a two-piece rotor and some pads. The cost concious (like me) might even wait and do it at some point in time when brake work becomes necessary.

1. What "good", light weight two-piece rotors are out there to replace my stock rotors?

2. Assume that having quiet brakes is the most important feature in a brake pad followed by NOT wearing out my new rotors (see #1 above). Given that, is there a pad out there that performs better than stock in braking without giving up on the noise/rotor wear requirements?

Yes, yes, I've searched but no one has given requirements quite like these. In fact, I suspect that I will probably have to go with the factory pads, given my requirements, but it is worth asking.
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Bump - I reorganized some of the stuff.

I took a first crack at organizing the coilover options into categories, but that's a bit iffy at this point. Any suggestions appreciated.
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Definately worth yet another bump! Should include links to this from the motorsports forum!
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buttdyno...with your new super mod skillz can you sticky this?

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Old 10-02-2005, 08:34 PM   #42
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My super mod skillz only extend to teh Mid-A. I figure someone woulda stickied it by now if they liked it

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So continuing the train of thought. If the weight savings comes from the rotors and a BBK doesn't buy much (if anything) for the street, a good upgrade to stock brakes might be a two-piece rotor and some pads. The cost concious (like me) might even wait and do it at some point in time when brake work becomes necessary.

1. What "good", light weight two-piece rotors are out there to replace my stock rotors?

2. Assume that having quiet brakes is the most important feature in a brake pad followed by NOT wearing out my new rotors (see #1 above). Given that, is there a pad out there that performs better than stock in braking without giving up on the noise/rotor wear requirements?

Yes, yes, I've searched but no one has given requirements quite like these. In fact, I suspect that I will probably have to go with the factory pads, given my requirements, but it is worth asking.
With so many bumps, I thought I would reiterate my last question. I've yet to find an answer to either.

Thanks,
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Excellent stuff!

One addition: you might want to point out that even though coilovers may have several inches of thread on the strut body, there is only one correct ride height given the position of the piston in the damper. Coilovers are all designed for a specific ride height, and will not function optimally if adjusted far outside of that height (just like lowering springs on struts). So the typical noob thought process, "I'll get coilovers so I can slam it on Tuesday and jack it up for winter" is completely wrong.

The exception to the above is the very few and very expensive high-end coilovers that allow height adjustment at the spindle end. But since that's about 1% of what's sold, it's a small exception.
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