V Limited Lip in Carbon Fiber, Gauging Interest

[RavSpec]

THIS GB has REOPEN TODAY (2/24/05)

If you have paid the deposit but did not get listed on here, please email or PM me.


DEPOSIT FOR 1st SHIPMENT OF THE LIP IS DUE ON JAN 14, 2005 - CLOSED
Estimate time of lip leaving Asia factory --- Feb 10, 2005 (20 pieces shipment)

Payment Collecting Start - Feb 7, 2005 (Done)
Status - On Schedule
Ship Out Date - March 3, 2005 (NY to Customer)

DEPOSIT FOR 2nd SHIPMENT OF THE LIP IS DUE ON JAN 31, 2005 - CLOSED
Estimate time of lip leaving Asia factory -- March 6, 2005 (20 pieces shipment)

Payment Collecting Start - March 6, 2005
Status - 7 days delay

DEPOSIT FOR 3rd SHIPMENT OF THE LIP IS DUE ON FEB 15, 2005-CLOSED
Estimated of lip leaving Asia factory - March 30, 2005 (40 pieces shipment)

Payment Collecting Start - March 27, 2005

DEPOSIT FOR 4th SHIPMENT OF THE LIP ( Open )
Estimated of lip leaving Asia factory - April 20, 2005 (20 pieces shipment)

Please send PM or email us your first name with your screen name so we can add you on top the list. We will be running the group buy in 4 different forums. Thankx.

RavSpec.

Updated Dec 28 , 2004

We will go ahead and place the order now instead of 3 weeks from now. 20 piece price are confirmed. Which will be $339 shipped now.
I will move up the deposit collection date to Jan 1, 2005. We will call factory this week to put initial order of 20 pieces. We will up to 30 pieces if we get around 25 people to join. I will contact everyone in Jan 1, 2005 for collection. We will need 50% deposit which will be $169.50 from every one. The sample will be here in 2 weeks. Thankx you all !!! Happy Holidays !!!!

Updated Dec 29 , 2004

In three days, we got 30 people to join. At this rate, we will have more than 40 to 50 people. We are currently negotiating for lower price and hopefully we can get this down more for all of you. Just to make sure that everyone on the list is serious, we will be taking deposit of $150 starting Jan 1, 2005. This is to make sure that the number of people actually serious about the GB is right.

Updated Dec 29 , 2004

We just setup the link to pay deposit for the GB. It's on the top of the name list. Everyone that is serious about this GB, please make the deposit as soon as possible, this way we will have have the real counts on how many lips are taken !!!! Thank you all.

Updated Dec 30 , 2004

Want to thank all of you that join and paid the deposit for being serious about this. We have almost half the people on the list put in the deposit already. We have already put in the order to Asia. We will have sample very soon. Also working on cutting the cost down on shipping so we can get better pricing to you guys. Wish us luck and have a happy NEW YEAR !!!

Updated Dec 31, 2004

We have a conference call with the factory last night. Here is the newest information. It comes with bolts and nuts. There are four mounting points on the lip. Two on the side and two on the middle. The first batch of the lip went to the Subaru dealer in Japan.

Updated Jan 3, 2005

We have confirmed that the first lip will arrived here on Jan 10, 2005. We will post pictures of installation and picture of the sample lip before Jan 12, 2005.

Updated Jan 6, 2005

Look like the sample lip will be here sooner. We just received confirmation that the sample lip has left Asia. I got a picture of the lip before it was ship. We should have the sample here by Monday or Tuesday next week. As soon as it gets here, we will put it on our STI. Anyone in Queens, NY who wants to take a look at it are welcome to stop by. See below post for the picture of the sample !!!

Updated Jan 7, 2005

Fedex confirmed delivery for the sample lip to be Jan 10, 2005. We will have it test fit the same day !!!!! Picture will be available on the same day.

Updated Jan 10, 2005

Got the lip, I took some pictures of it and upload on our website. I will be leaving in 30 min for test fit. I don't have the time to post on the forum yet, but here is the link to our site for the picture. It's located on the upper right hand corner. Detail Pic 1 to 5 !!!

http://www.ravspec.com/pDetails.asp?itemID=10160

Updated Jan 10, 2005

hey guys, i just got the lip installed. See below for pictures. Here is what we have so far. Overall it's good, just slight modification we have to do for the production run.

1. The sample lip doesn't come with pre-drilled holes. We have to drill several holes on the lip. Of course this will not be the case for the production run. We will have pre-drilled holes on the lip.

2. Yes you will need the STI bumper splitter for the lip to work. See picture for reason why.

3. We will need longer bolts for the lip because the stock bolts are too short. We will supply these bolts.

4. After installing the lip, we found just a very slight gap at the center of the lip. It was easily taken care of the use of double sided taped. Here are some options. Please give us advise on what do you guys prefer.

I. Provide double side tap for the lip just like the v-limited lip.
I. Drill extra hole on the lip for those who doesn't mind drilling hole on the stock bumper.
III. Provide both double sided tap and extra pre-drilled holes.

(**** This is after we use the stock mounting holes (3 of them) on the stock bumper and feel that we need more mounting points beside the stock three mounting points. ****)

5. We check the v-limited lip that we have with one of our customer, he also have to use double side tap on the v-limited lip to get rid of the small gap.

6. For those who wants more picture, please click on the link on top of the list. It will take you to our website. On the upper right hand corner, there are links to some pictures. Or if you need more detail pictures, please email us at sales@ravspec.com

7. Overall the lip fit perfectly. Not much modification needed. Installation take about 15 min. The carbon pattern are well layed, the mounting support are right on the spot. The slot to slide in the bumper splitter match perfectly !!! See pictures. We are happy with the lip and we are sure you guys will be happy with the lip once you see it.

Updated Jan 11, 2005

Hi guys, again we really appreciate your help and support on this GB.
We have decided to make two shipments of the lip. First shipment of the lip will leave in 2 to 3 weeks. I have make the deadline of the deposit for the lip to be Jan 14, 2005. Whoever paid by Jan 14 will receive the lip from the first shipment. The second shipment will leave about 2 weeks after the first shipment. Please make your decision and let us know. Those who want to back out, please make sure you contact me !!!

Updated Jan 11, 2005

The current box size is 24" x 5" x 68". I got a shipping quote from both Fedex and UPS to be around $65 shipped. That's mean any room I have to lower the price for the lip has been taken away due to the high shipping cost from New York to you guys. I will try to work out some deal with Fedex and UPS, but I doubt I will get any cheaper. Unless anyone have connection for shipping that they can recommend me.
So, $299 shipped is the lowest we can do right now. Also keep in mind that we might have to ship the lips air freight from Asia to U.S. to meet the delivery dead line. We might end up losing money on this GB :-?
So, for those who are still deciding, you have till Jan 14 to make a decision and after that, you will have to wait till the second shipment which have a deadline of Jan 31 to send in the deposit. I will be available to answer any questions regarding the GB any time this week. You can call us or email us. TEL: 718-358-6102 / sales@ravspec.com

Updated 1/14/05

Hi guys: we are finalizing the GB (first shipment) today. Any one that had already paid please check the GB list and make sure your name is on it. This is very important !!!!!! If you already paid and your name is not on this list, please email me or PM me.

Day time pictures available, please email or PM us for the link !!!!

Updated 1/15/05

We have closed the GB deposit for the 1st shipment of the lip. However, 2nd shipment GB still open. We are cutting the 2nd shipment to be at 40 pieces. We only have 80 pieces in both shipment combined. So if you are on the list, please make sure you pay the deposit otherwise we will have to take you off the list and make room for others. Thankx guys.

Updated 1/18/05

We have temporary closed the link for deposit due to the overwhelming request for the lip. We have another meeting with the factory over the weekend and here is what going to happen.

1. Due to the changes we requested on the lip, the factory have to re-make the mold of the lip (comes with pre-drill hole), because of that the production schedule has been push back.

2. The first shipment will be finish on Feb 5th. But only 20 pieces will be available for this shipment.

3. Another 20 pieces will be finish on Feb 26th due to two weeks vocation from the factory.

4. The last 40 pieces won't be done till end of March.

We have collected 45 deposits for the lip. I can only supply the first shipment of the lip to the first 20 people that hand in the deposit. I am really really sorry for doing this to you guys. I can't meet terms stated on the GB list therefore i will offer full refund to those who want to back out.

The rest that still choose to stay in, i will give you extra 5% off for the lip which will be $285.

Again, I would like to apologize for not being able to meet the terms. Later today I will put the name of the people who will be getting the first 20 lips.

Those that will be receiving the first 20 lips will see the word "confirmed" next to their name.

Updated 1/20/05

Hi guys: I just updated new estimated time of departure for the lip from Asia to us. Also I have put which shipment each one of you will be getting the lip. Please read it through and if you are out, please let me know and so i can put other people name on your spot.

Also I will reopen the deposit link tomorrow for those who want to wait for the third shipment of the lip which will be 40 pieces shipment instead of 20 pieces.

Email me or PM me if there is any questions.

Updated 1/25/05

hi guys:

I have been slacking off for the past few days. Just updated a few more people who paid the deposit into the list. I might miss one or two who are interested, but did not pay the deposit, if I forgot to add your name, please email or PM me.

We are stopping the GB at 70 pieces. There are now 19 spot left on the GB. So hurry up hand in the deposit before it's full !!!! We have 51 deposits so far and we need to stop the GB, it's getting too big !!!!

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[offset]

After seeing a couple other versions of that lip in CF I am definately hooked. But the other prices have been rather steep. Even the original V-Limited lip was beyond what I am willing to pay for a lip spoiler right now. But if you can get this one under $400 I think you might do pretty well. My advice is to start out with an insane GB deal to generate interest. How about a close up pick to see the quality of the weave as well though?

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[ChrisRC]

Wow! You're going to offer a carbon fiber V Limited replica for under $400? If the quality is any good, I'm sure you will sell quite a few.

[Fhqwhgads]

Carbon fiber, good quality, less than 400 would sell like hotcakes... especially if it smelled like hotcakes

Err, sign me up for one

[RavSpec]

ehh, for yours, we can make sure we packaged it with hot cakes !!!!

[boost junkie]

I would buy one for sure.

[RavSpec]

keep checking back, we will post group buy info as soon as we confirm on quantity.

[Killian Maynard]

I would also be interested in one around that price.

[technica]

That lip looks great, I'd buy it.

[ESEMES]

bookmarking!!

any news?

[fasterthanrayswrx]

i'd be interested but would wait for others to try it before i would commit

[monopoly]

I think it is still too steep - how about a glass unit in matte black at under 250?

[awilson529]

mark me down.

[RavSpec]

humm, look like alot of interest. I will keep all of you guys posted !!

[alachua]

I am way interested. Consider me 90% commited. I hope pricing can be near what the STi V1 replica in CF goes for...but anything under $400 is pretty reasonable.

-Cliff

[thebing]

i kinda agree with monopoly. even though the price at less than 400 is decent, it still makes it really hard for someone like myself to justify paying 400 for such a small piece. i think less than 300 for CF is a bit better ballpark.

Also, i dont know how possible it is, but if you could make a plastic black replica for 100-150, i think that would be a really big seller as well, for all the people who want the V-limited look, but dont want to pay the v-limited pricetag.

i'd also be happy to testfit one on my car for you when you make them! =P

[RavSpec]

thebing:

I do have a source for just a plastic replica, but price is almost the same with carbon fiber. Why bother.

[hyp36rmax]

i agree its expensive , i had the TRU V-limited Lip once and it was perfect! till the curb ate it =-( i would be interested in this piece esp in CF now, but the price has really got to go down $350 at the most, for now i will be running with Cusco lip though =-)

[RavSpec]

hyp364max:

yes we are putting together a group buy soon. Hope to get below $300 if enough people join. Stay tunned !!!

[hyp36rmax]

what kind of build is the lip itself? ABS? FRP? how about the process of the CF? will it be close to autoclave? reasoni ask is that the TRU Lip share those simliarities... as long as fitment is flawless and it can take somewhat of a beating then i am definetly in, i dont mind buying this alongside my cusco lip...

(sometimes i may change setups and its nice to have the parts there yah know?) hehehe

[RavSpec]

hyp364max:

When you say autoclave do you mean dry carbon fiber process ? If so, no this is not dry carbon fiber. It's hand lay carbon fiber meaning that it still uses a base fiber layer and then manually lay down the triple layers of carbon fiber.

Pricing for dry carbon fiber is way too high at this point. Advantage of dry carbon fiber is lighter and more uniform lay pattern. However many manufacture right now can make hand lay carbon fiber products with almost perfect pattern. The tricky part is to lay carbon fiber on curve surface.

I wouldn't worry about the carbon lay pattern on this product because there are only a few curve surface on the lip.

Fitment is flawless. Currently this lip is being make for Japanese market. Quality is a big concern for the Japanese market. If the Japanease market accepted this product, I don't think U.S. market will have problem with it. That's why we are considering importing this lip.

[hyp36rmax]

Originally Posted by RavSpec

hyp364max:

When you say autoclave do you mean dry carbon fiber process ? If so, no this is not dry carbon fiber. It's hand lay carbon fiber meaning that it still uses a base fiber layer and then manually lay down the triple layers of carbon fiber.

Pricing for dry carbon fiber is way too high at this point. Advantage of dry carbon fiber is lighter and more uniform lay pattern. However many manufacture right now can make hand lay carbon fiber products with almost perfect pattern. The tricky part is to lay carbon fiber on curve surface.

I wouldn't worry about the carbon lay pattern on this product because there are only a few curve surface on the lip.

Fitment is flawless. Currently this lip is being make for Japanese market. Quality is a big concern for the Japanese market. If the Japanease market accepted this product, I don't think U.S. market will have problem with it. That's why we are considering importing this lip.

'nuff said, im in! =-)

my next question is, whats the ETA on this product?

[offset]

The other big question is what kind of shipping prices do you guys think you will see. I have heard shipping can be kinda stiff. If you can get it below $300 shipped then I will truly be forced into this purchase.

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[Golfa]

i'm in, if the fitment is excellent that is...

[mpower22]

I,m in on this lip if you guys used the sti lip to create themold, I.E. this lip has the same aerodynamic properties ( less drag and creates downforce) thow an sti sticker on it and I'm done......