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Old 12-21-2004, 12:33 PM   #1
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Default JDM HEADLIGHTS w/ SilverStars...somethings wrong! PLS help!

Hey all,

Ive got a 2003 with JDM headlights, using silver star bulbs. I realize I have LHD lights, I realize many of you will say, get EDM head lights. I realize the difference between the two.


Heres my problem. My low beams (already aimed) are almost as dull as the day time running lights. I didnt install these lights, so Im not sure if there installed correctly to begin with. But Im not getting any useful light at all. I mean I get about 10feet of light, but its more like a glow rather than light up area. If I turn on my fog lights, its makes the lighting like 50% better. My bug eyes were MUCH MUCH brighter and with them in, I could hardly notice my foglamps on or off.

Ive read countless posts, most of them bashing JDM lights, but I like em, I want to keep em, and I dont care about blinding people. I just want some LIGHT! Its that bad that it only lights up about 10feet in front of my car and its more of a bluish glow than a lite up area.

Im wondering if my low beams are running day time running light mode, even when i turn the lowbeams on? Can that possiable be? I mean When I switch the lowbeams on, from day time running light mode, all the other little lights come up and its kinda hard to tell if my low beams are getting brighter or if its just all the other little lights that are fooling me.

I dont know, but my JDM head lights (using silver star bulbs) are no more usefull than running regular day time running lights. Thats how bad it is. There aimed and its just NO LIGHT to aim! Where is the light?

Someone please help me.

I have adjusted them.
I have tried different light bulbs
I understand I have LHD lights (that doesnt excuse the lack of light I have)

It just doesnt make sense. So many say there SO much brighter! Well mine are no better than using my day time running lights as my normal low beams. Its just a glow rather than any directed light.

HELP ME PLS!

Orange county, CA
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Old 12-21-2004, 12:55 PM   #2
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If I turn on my fog lights, its makes the lighting like 50% better.
Do you mean the low beams light up brighter if the fog lights are also turned on, or just the fact that the fog lights help illuminate the road much better?

If it is the former, and if this remains the case no matter what brand of bulb (the correct type of course) is used on the low beams, is it possible that the wiring/connector is not correct?

I don't own a JDM unit, but afaik, they are not plug-and-play in terms of connecting them to the USDM headlight connectors.

Another possibility is that there is something physically wrong with the low beam projector unit. The bulbs or the cutoff shield may be improperly seatedor either the internal reflector or the plano-convex projector itself may be hazed or dirty (from water seeping in).

If you use the oem headlights, does everything functionally return back to normal?

If you can post pictures of the low beam light projected at a wall about 25 feet ahead, and a picture of the wiring, it would probably help.
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Old 12-21-2004, 01:03 PM   #3
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My lowbeams are so bad that I HAVE to use my fog lamps. By turning on my fog lamps, its offers me about 50% more light compaired to just running the low beams stand alone.


If I put my bug eyes in, all works fine and I can see the world! Yet these projector JDM lights dont offer me much at all. Again I dont notice much of a difference from driving with the day time running lights on or putting the lowbeams on at all. Its like its the sam DULL, WEAK, lighting the day time running lights offer.

I dont have a pic I can post since Im at work. I will get some and post them up. I hope there just getting power from the wrong wire or something. I mean its horriable. I cant drive at night with these at all. Again lowbeams are not much different (if anything at all) from driving at night iwth the day time running lights (just the lowbeams) on.

thanks for your help!
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Old 12-21-2004, 08:23 PM   #4
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I have the exact same problem. There is a modification on scoobymods.com to change the headlights to left-hand-drive headlights. Doing this mod is supposed to give you more useful light. I haven't done this modification yet, but I plan on having hid projectors fitted in place of the low beams. I'll give you more information if i find the website. Someone posted information about it earlier.

P.S. Myles from Racecompengineering just did this headlight retrofitting as well

hope this helps

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Old 12-21-2004, 10:04 PM   #5
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I'm assuming you have the RHD JDMs, and not the LHD EDMs, even though you say you have the LHD JDMs.

There might be something wrong with the connections perhaps (seeing as you said you didn't install them). When I first got my STI lights my passenger side would be as dim as the daytime running lights while my driver's side was really bright. I soon discovered it was because the connection was bad. Like you though I was a little disappointed by the light output compared to the stock headlights. The light dispersion just wasn't to my liking. While the distant lighting (signs, etc) was excellent, the ground lighting was somewhat lacking. I've also read on these forums that the projectors used in the STI headlights are not as good as the Morettes, Prodrive, or UK300 projectors. You might want to consider making a heavyduty relay harness so that there is not a drop in voltage to the lights. I read somewhere on these forums that the drop in voltage doesn't allow the bulb to be shining as brightly as it could be. I heard that a heavyduty harness can improve lighting also b/c the stock grounding in a wrx is supposed to be horrible. You might want to look into that. There a lot of threads in the electrical forum that discuss this, just do a search.

Another route you might consider is putting HIDs in them (should you decide to pop them open and mod them so that you won't blind oncoming traffic). I decided to put HIDs in them (keep in mind these are the EDM lights so they do emit the correct beam pattern), and let me tell you, it made a world of difference. I initially got 6000k bulbs, which was a mistake, but now I have Phillips 4100k bulbs in there and the lighting is fantastic. The dark spots created by putting HID bulbs into these particular halogen projectors are not as bad as everyone makes them out to be. While the foreground light output is not as good as OEM HID applications on other cars (BMW, Audi, Mercedes, etc.), IMHO they are better than the stock headlamps and the STI headlamps in halogen form.

Here is a pic of the light output on my STI EDMs w/ 4100k HID kit:


All of what I wrote is just from my experience and what I've read in this electrical forum. Hope this helps some.
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Old 01-05-2005, 07:35 PM   #6
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Correct, I have the RHD JDM lights. And just as you stated, all signs light up well, yet in front of the car I see hardly anything! HOWEVER I did find something! I found that the light bulbs used "H1" were put in incorrectly. They were pretty much forced into the headlamp....looks like someone did this quickly and didnt realize there was a patten to follow so that they installed correctly. So that meant the bulbs were angled and not really pointing correctly.

Saddly enough though, it did help, yet its still poor lighting in front of the car. Yet I can see signs just fine! I'll probably just dump these headlights and get something else.

Thanks for your reply!
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Old 01-05-2005, 08:31 PM   #7
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arent the H1s only for the the high beams?
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Old 01-05-2005, 10:21 PM   #8
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Il take them off your hands for ya and you could have my stock lights.
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Old 01-07-2005, 04:51 PM   #9
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Il take them off your hands for ya and you could have my stock lights.

Trust me, you dont want them. Unless you put HID in them, there the worse. I check my wiring harness to ensure voltage wasnt dropping, changed the light bulbs, adjusted them as best as I could and they dont light up shiz. They put out as much light as day time running lights do.

Im thinking of selling them and getting some prodrive ones or something else that actually works. The bling bling factor of having JDM lights isnt worth it to me... But Im not going to bug eyes either!
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:24 AM   #10
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^^ Funny... I'm having hte same problem. Lighting is poor with regular halogens bulbs and this beam pattern or whatever it is that causes the **** output.

If anyone can find the page where you open up the RHD jdm projectors and convert them to LHD, please enlighten us thanks.
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Old 11-04-2005, 07:10 AM   #11
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I have jdms w/ silverstars. They are very bright and far superior to stock. It was literally a night and day difference between the two.

Now, I'm about as far from an electrical guru as you can get, but yours must be wired incorrectly or just not getting enough juice. Also, the low beams and high beams use different bulb types. To make the install "stupid-proof", I used the pnp harness that wagons_ho makes.

On a side note, and fwiw, I believed the hype about "blinding" people using the jdms BEFORE I bought them and saw them for myself. I've had them now for many, many months and have passed and been passed by many cars. Had officers drive in front of my car, beside my car, and come from the opposite direction of my car. I have NEVER been flashed. Don't believe the hype.
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Old 11-04-2005, 07:04 PM   #12
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HID makes all the difference in the world and is only $250 away...
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^^ Yea I plan on getting HID's... I just wanted to sell my stock headlights and old mcculloch HID's to fund the purcahse for new HID's, hehe.
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