Queens Area - Do you know who this person is?

[krazedant]

I was driving on 56th Avenue in the rain this afternoon right before it intersects with East Hampton Blvd (by Queensborough Community College). Saw a mangled blue STi (don't know if it was '04 or '05) that was in a pretty nasty accident. The car was REALLY mangled. The driver was trapped inside the car unconscious with his friends/passengers outside trying to get him out. I got out to see if I could help, but the fire trucks just got there, along with the police.

They got the driver out and onto a stretcher. Looked like they were doing CPR on him, so I don't know if the driver made it out ok... does anyone know who this person is? Skinny caucasian male, looked somewhere between the age of 18-22. It was a blue STi with gold rims, STi stock wing, and a metallic STi license plate frame. I hope whoever he is, he made it out ok...

[Brad Pittiful]

wow...sounds nasty...i hope the kid is going to be ok...shame for this to happen so near christmas...well its a shame anytime for it to happen

[SubeDonC]

just saw this on channel 7 news. . .back seat passenger was killed.

Cant find the story to post

[hypov]

Originally Posted by SubeDonC

just saw this on channel 7 news. . .back seat passenger was killed.

Cant find the story to post

That's on the GCP with a '96 Mazda.

-Dave

[lionken07]

I saw it on 7 too...the car is blue...dang it was bad...

they say the car jump the curb?

anyone know what happened?

[Fat Tits]

wow



good luck!

OT:
Hows justin holding up with the RS?

[krazedant]

Originally Posted by lionken07

I saw it on 7 too...the car is blue...dang it was bad...

they say the car jump the curb?

anyone know what happened?

Yeah, the car was blue. I don't know if the car jumped the curb, but I'm pretty sure they were speeding. That road has a few twisties, so I think they might have been going a little too fast. Regardless, it sucks to hear news like this during the holidays.

[korpse]

I just saw it on the news. A 17 year old kid died...

[VisionaryRacing]

Channel 9 news just had this story on, four 17 year olds in the sti. So sad to hear

[JIN]

Wow, that sounds bad man. Drive slow guys ...

Jin

[BlkTS02]

I just saw this on the news as well. Be careful out there.

[krazedant]

Yea, my friend TIVO'ed UPN9 news and we just watched it. Sad news. The kid was only 17.

[WarHawk187]

Damn, thats so sad to hear considering Im 17 too. I can say that if I had an STi, I probably would be in the same position as that kid because sometimes, ESPECIALLY with friends, you tend to show off your car and act like a complete idiot.

Sad to hear...

[krazedant]

Here's the Daily News article and a small picture of the car.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-227031c.html

[snoballz]

Tragic.

May he rest in peace.

[DieselClown]

My heart goes out to them and their familes. THIS is why I just DON'T understand why parents buy their kids these types of cars without doing their homework. It seriously frustrates me that they have to learn this way.

[WarHawk187]

Wow, so many people died yesterday...

What a shame...

[subalou1]

thats terrible, damn

[RS22b]

thats just horrible. Guys i hope that you are ok. sorry to hear the loss of you freind.

RIP
BIllyqua
rally driven...................

[Prime Mover]

Originally Posted by DieselClown

My heart goes out to them and their familes. THIS is why I just DON'T understand why parents buy their kids these types of cars without doing their homework. It seriously frustrates me that they have to learn this way.

I can't agree with you more... it's a shame what happened to that kid, and may he R.I.P. But there's absolutely no reason why a 17-year old should be driving a street-legal rally car (unless they are an actual racecar driver with lots of behind-the-wheel experience)... they just don't have the experience of driving long enough to understand how to drive in conditions like that.

When I got my license, sure, I did stupid things with my car, heck, I'm sure most of us did. But I had a car that wasn't capable of getting me into more trouble because it couldn't go really fast and corner well. At the time, sure I wanted a fast car, to have fun with and of course to impress, but looking back on it, I'm glad I didn't have anything better, because I might have killed myself (or worse, someone else because I'm being stupid).

I've worked myself up to my current driving skill level, and I can now say I feel I can handle a car like an STi, because I have the driving experience to fall back on. I'm not invincible anymore, like I knew I was at 17, and I have a lot more respect for cars and the damage they can do by 'living and learning' over the past years.

Being a new parent as well, I'm now looking at the other side of the coin and I can honestly say I'll be damned if my kid(s) drive anything that powerful when they're just able to drive (unless of course I have them on the racetrack early enough to where they can handle a car like that, and they know the difference between the track and the street), and on the same thought, I'll be doing everything I can to educate my kids to not get into cars where the driver is inexperienced, or out to impress and be a hotshot showoff. Yeah, I know, talking is one thing, and kids will do things anyways, but I can't imagine how horrible a thing this must be to have to go through as a parent.

-Gary

[Dealer Xing]

Summer tires??

[palmerx141]

guys, just because somone is young dosnt make them irresponsible. Im sure that a lot of kids my age (18 in jan) are not responsible drivers but its kinda annoying when people make such generalizations. Although I dont drive an STi, I do drive a WRX and I am responsible driver. Not to say that i dont go out and have some fun in my car, but who dosnt? I feel terrible for the famlies affected by this tragity but i think that this accidnet could have happened to anyone.

[elsanto]

Palmer, while i agree with you, and always thought i was responsible when i was younger, I look back on some of the crap i did (in my 89 escort wagon) and am amazed im still alive. experience is everything, and nothing can take the place of behind the wheel real world experience.

[hypov]

Originally Posted by palmerx141

guys, just because somone is young dosnt make them irresponsible. Im sure that a lot of kids my age (18 in jan) are not responsible drivers but its kinda annoying when people make such generalizations. Although I dont drive an STi, I do drive a WRX and I am responsible driver. Not to say that i dont go out and have some fun in my car, but who dosnt? I feel terrible for the famlies affected by this tragity but i think that this accidnet could have happened to anyone.

I believe Prime's and Diesel's thoughts were more directed at the inexperienced biting off more than they could chew and the irresponsibility of their parents.

-Dave

[Prime Mover]

Originally Posted by hypov

I believe Prime's and Diesel's thoughts were more directed at the inexperienced biting off more than they could chew and the irresponsibility of their parents.

-Dave

Yep. Responsible or not, real world experience is the key, and nothing will ever take the place of that.

Sorry, coulda been a little more clear with the statement, but yes, I didn't mean to say that 17 or 18-y.o. kids are irresponsible, but more to the point that because they are that young, they don't have enough real-world experience to deal with certain situations effectively... and it doesn't only apply to cars, but basically anything where you need a level of skill to operate (mechanics, plumbers, computer geeks, athletes, fighter pilots, boat captains, the list goes on and on).

I find the parents mostly at fault for lack of education and guidance, and for not realizing that their kids aren't at the same skill level as they when it comes to driving. As much as it sucks to not get your license until you're 17 (or 18 now I think in places), there's a reason for that.

That's why insurance companies charge more for younger drivers, because they are 'inexperienced', and because they are more likely to get into some sort of accident or bad situation within the first few years of driving. I did. I had an accident within my first year of driving, and it was in bad-weather conditions, where I slid into another car while driving on snow-covered roads. I can say for sure that I've had many other situations similar to that one, and now I can navigate safely in that situation, base upon my learning experience that night.

That's why I can't stand it when someone buys their kid a car (or even if the kid has worked hard enough to buy their own) which is as powerful as an STi, without the kid really knowing how to drive it properly. It's sooo easy for an inexperienced driver to make a wrong move at a bad time because they haven't encountered a situation like that yet... and having a car which can accelerate and corner like an STi can (or even a WRX, or EVO, or Camaro, etc. etc.) which makes the situation worse because the car takes the wrong move, and makes it so much worse, so much more quickly, that the driver cannot possibly correct it in time.

The kid could be as responsible as they come, be an outstanding person, always cleans their room, does the chores, manages his allowance perfectly, gets a job where he can afford a $30k car and all associated costs, etc. etc. He could be a 'responsible driver' and do the speed limit always, keep the fun to a track, use his turn signals properly, yield always to slower cars, and so on. However, being a responsible kid does not do anything when the driver is going down a rain-slicked highway in bad weather, a little too fast for the conditions (right or wrong, and knowingly or not), and instead of taking the foot off the gas around a corner, keeping it on the throttle. At that point the car goes on boost, accelerates much too quickly in the corner, starts losing control, and the driver over-corrects it in a panic, and they go backend into the guardrail.

So, there is where my issue lies. Things like this happen, it's a shame, and unfortunately, until parents actually parent (and I'm making a generalization here) it will continue happening at a more-than-normal rate.

-Gary