Anybody even heard of Compomotive TH wheels?

[Yellow Rex]

HI,
I feel like I'm crying in the wilderness. Does anybody like or even heard about the Compomotive TH or TH-2 wheels? Or how about Speedline? those look like they belong on a WRX. I think it would be nice to get some. I'll appreciate input or info about group buys, etc.

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[Bunuel]

Are you asking if we've heard of Speedline? umm.....

Compomotive makes some nice wheels too.

[Bunuel]

http://www.usacomp.com/Road.htm

[iceweazel]

Yeah TH's are fairly popular rally wheels. A bit pricey for the
street. Rally forumulation has/had a ton of magniesium in it
as I recall. Seen some spectacular failures

Seen the th2s on shots other rally websites, but never in
person during the events.

Most euro rally distributors can source them without issue.

iw

[Zahnster]

Sound rather expensive for what you're getting. Also kinda hard to be sure if they've got the right bolt pattern.

[Yellow Rex]

They are specifically fitted to the WRX. They are supposed to be lighter and much stronger than other wheels (they are supposed to be able to run flat under race conditions. I thought that the WRX being a rally car would deserve rally wheels

[Jon Bogert]

I think you're going to have a hard time preaching the benefits of real rally wheels to the WRX crowd. The ones who are going rallying have them already, and the rest keep themselves busy comparing wheel weight and deciding whether to get 17" or 18" wheels.

Compomotives are wonderful, tough wheels, as are rally wheels from Speedline, Raceline, Revolution (usually ), OZ, Tecnomagnesio and Dymag. But, if the only things you're willing to pay for are style and light weight, look elsewhere...

[Yellow Rex]

What a shame that the WRx crowd is more interested in light, cheap road wheels. The WRX is a *rally* car. It deserves nice rally stuff. The Compomotives look really cool in the car and are much more appropriate than some spidery looking 17" or 18" wheels. I know that I'm not going to spend any money in bogus big wheels for my REX. If I buy anything at all it will be 16" Rally wheels, preferably magnesium wheels, made strong and tough. I think some of these folks are going to learn some expensive and hard lessons about superlight wheels on a heavy, AWD car. Even the Miatas and Civics break or bend those big, light wheels just going over the steel plates the put on the roads to cover construction. I want wheels that *will not* break on bend under any type of driving I might do, including some gravel road and other rough terrain driving. Besides, I think the WRX and EVO or similar cars look much better with real rally wheels on

Peace,

manuel

[Zahnster]

So based on the link are you planning on buying the Road version of the TH2 or the Rally version of the TH2?

Or perhaps Revolution Wheels is right up your ally. Of course you would get the Rally version of their wheels instead of the Road versions.

Perhaps some of us plan on having two sets of wheels. Stockers with some good tires for off road/winter driving and some larger, lightweight wheels with some high-performance driving for when we're on the street.

[Yellow Rex]

I want the rally look for my car. I think that if I'm gonna get the rally look, I might as well get the rally wheels. The road version of the TH-2 is just as expensive as the rally version. I don't know what the differences between them might be. I guess I'll do some research and see what i find out. Anyway, I'm actually a little more partial to the TH model anyway so that might take out that choice (I don't belive that the TH wheel is offere as a road wheel too). Anyway, I don't see how using rally wheels for every day use could be a bad thing but I don't have all the facts yet. I do think however that some red mudflaps and white rally wheels will look quite nice

[iceweazel]

Actually the revolutions come in 3 varieties of alloy with different
options. (rummages around) From Tom Tatlovich the new
US rev rep. (YEAH!! I hated the place in PA, they drove me
crazy over the years) I might go to the Road wheel and get
it in white.

I'm a great fan of Rev. wheels.

"The prices that we have on our web represent the
Retail prices of the three different versions of the 4 styles of wheels we produce. These prices are determined by the way that the wheel is manufactured.
Our Road wheel is produced from a LM9 Alloy and aside from the 17' wheel, is not Heat Treated. The 17" RZX goes through a one step heat treat process due to it's size. The LM9 Alloy allows the wheel to be more suitable for street purposes.
The Race and Rally wheels are produced from a LM25 Alloy, which has a higher magnesium content, and they go through a special two step Heat Treat process which allows for a very strong and durable wheel, while retaining excellent impact absorption capability.
The Race version is also made lighter and thinner than the Rally, and has a diamond turned rim. Basically the prices reflect the alloy, heat treatment and machining involved. "

iw

[Yellow Rex]

Where can I see some of these Revolotion wheels and their prices?

Thanx,

manuel

[Bunuel]

The US distributer for Scooby Sport sells the Revolution wheels.

http://www.rallyperformance.com/wheels.htm

[mclmk8d]

Here is Tom's site
http://www.ttrsracing.com/index.htm

[Yellow Rex]

I looked at the Revolution wheels in the website, the Rally spec wheels are nice and priced right. I still like the look of the Compomotive TH and TH2 wheels though. I wonder what the disadvantages are of using these wheels for every day driving?

[Zahnster]

The only disadvantages I can think of is because you'd likely be rolling on stock size tires, you've got a rather large sidewall so street performance will suffer a bit.

Also, I would think the wheels would be rather heavy. Stock are strong and very light. It sounds like the rally wheels have a high magnesium count though so they may be light enough not to make a big difference.

[SHADOWES]

if I had the moneyI want to get a set of 16" compomotive MO wheels, or the OZ cronoevolution. does any one make a rally tire in a 16 that will fit the impreza all I can find is 15's meaby I will just have to get a 15" wheel.

[Jon Bogert]

I've had both the TH (on my old GTI) and the TH2 (on my Celica) and the #1 drawback is that they are a nightmare to clean. Don't laugh--on white wheels brake dust really builds up if you don't clean them constantly. Better get out your old BBS wheel brush from the mid'-80s...

[Yellow Rex]

does any one make a rally tire in a 16 that will fit the impreza all I can find is 15's meaby I will just have to get a 15" wheel.

Shadowes:
The compomotive wheels are definitely available in 16" and larger sizes, take a look: http://www.compomotive.co.uk/

Jon:
The cleaning problem could be really bad news for me as the white color is definitely what I wanted. I even considered having my stock wheels powdercoated white. Now, I do know that the brake pads' compound can make a huge difference in the amount of brake dust present. I remember that when I changed pads in my Miata I had a lot more brake powder with one of the pads. The trouble is I cannot remember which was worse, the stock pads or the Axxis pads I used. My memory is quickly deteriorating On the upside, there are some products out there that do a magnific job in cleaning stuff like the brake dust.

Are there other factors that might make the rally wheels unsuitable for daily driving. I would have thought that the high margin of strenght and light weight of the magnesium would make them far superior to "tuner" wheels, specially if the streets in your town are in bad shape or continual construction (like in Atlanta).

[Jon Bogert]

Don't think for a minute that rally wheels will be light, just because they have some magnesium or some special blend of aluminum alloy. Rally wheels are heavy and ugly with thicker metal and a chunky, reinforced rim, where lesser wheels have slender spokes and a thin, machined rim. They are light FOR THEIR STRENGTH AND PRICE. Most rally wheels are made to sell for ~$150-170 for a 15x6, because nobody would pay more. Maybe the WRC teams can afford $500 magnesium wheels, but they all use OZs anyway.

It is a very nice feeling to crash through potholes or frost heaves knowing that you're not going to dent or crack an expensive rim.

[Yellow Rex]

According to some published specs, the TH wheels are about like this:
16"x6"= 20.5 lb. $287
16"x7"= 20.9 lb. $285
TH2:
16"x6" =17.6-18.7 lb. $295
16"x7" =17.6-18.7 lb. $310
I guess the weight depends on the thickness of backspace if any.

At 20.5 lb., those wheels are not much heavier (if any) than many tuner style alloy wheels. The TH@s at 17-18 lb. are downright light in comparison to anything short of a Volk T37 or similar wheel.

Ugly, well, beauty as they say is in the eye of the beholder

[Jon Bogert]

Form follows function.

[SHADOWES]

Thanx, I know about the 16" wheels I am trying to find 16" Rally tires most of them that I see only come in a 15" or smaller wheel if they will fir inside of your cars. I am having truble finding like a 195 x 60 r16 or something like that.

[Yellow Rex]

Sorry Shadowes, I did not read your post carefully. Since we were talking wheels, I just did not read *tires*. You might be quite right about the tires, that is why so many racing cars like the WRX use 15" wheels. I actually just want to have the rally *look* more than the complete functionality
I do believe though, that having the rally stuff (wheels, mudflaps, etc.) can actually be a good thing since it would result in a much more sturdy and protected car. This way, even if I decide to go to the dirt roads of North Georgia, North Carolina, etc. I'll be able to have a lot more fun without worry. Imagine taking your lowered, and street trimmed GSR or Miata in a little excursion like that? No such likelyhood I'd reckon
The Suubie, in the other hand will be quite happy and will come back not too much worse for the wear.

Cheers,

manuel